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I am now getting a choice at startup for either Mate or Uma. I usually have just started up in Mate so today I thought I would give Uma a try.
Now, how do I find out what version is running. uname doesn't give it. What command does?
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Uma is Linux Mint 20.2. If you're not sure which version the other one is, you can run the command inxi -S and that should tell you.

inxi is a system information command installed on Linux Mint by default. Newer versions of Linux Mint, such as Uma, also have a System Information program in your menu which also tells the Linux Mint version.
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Thanks for your help. In the menu is listed "System Monitor". When I opened it sure enough "Uma" was listed as my version,
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Here is another way. In a terminal:

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cat /usr/lib/os-release
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newyorkpaulie wrote: Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:23 pm I am now getting a choice at startup for either Mate or Uma. I usually have just started up in Mate so today I thought I would give Uma a try.
Now, how do I find out what version is running. uname doesn't give it. What command does?
Hi,

Mate and Uma are not related to the same thing:
- Uma is the nickname of the latest Linux Mint version, 20.2,
- Mate is the name of one of the three available Desktop Environments for Linux Mint,

=> Linux Mint 20.2, or Uma, is available with three different DE, Cinnamon, Mate and XFCE.

I don't understand what you says "I am now getting a choice at startup for either Mate or Uma". GRUB menu should offer you to choose among the various different systems installed on your computer, and Uma and Mate are probably the same one "Linux Mint 20.2 Uma Mate edition".

Without the output of your inxi -S, nobody can help you further.

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Re: my version

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paulie@paulie-ThinkPad-T61:~$ inxi -S
System:
Host: paulie-ThinkPad-T61 Kernel: 5.4.0-88-generic x86_64 bits: 64
Desktop: MATE 1.24.0 Distro: Linux Mint 20.2 Uma
paulie@paulie-ThinkPad-T61:~$
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To further clarify, I took a screenshot of each highlighted choice.
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Re: my version

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Can you please use a full sized screenshot? The above is unreadable. If the file is too large to attach here, use an image hoster like https://imgur.com/ or https://imgbb.com/ and share the link to the uploaded image.
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Re: my version

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Looks like OP has two entries in GRUB menu, the default one (LM 20.2 Mate) and the second (LM 20.2 UMA on /dev/sdf1) would be as result of os-prober .
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If there is only one Mint installed in sdf1 maybe loader is placed in other disk (MBR or EFI partition?).

Post back complete inxi -Fxxxzr result and also

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sudo fdisk -l
sudo blkid
cat /etc/fstab
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I think os-prober can tell what version the other installed OS is, but it can't tell what desktop environment. So for the main OS, the one in control of GRUB, shows itself as "Linux Mint 20.2 MATE", and the other OS is shown only as the version "Linux Mint 20.2 Uma" (20.2 means the same as Uma).
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Re: my version

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Here are the results from the four command-line entries you suggested:

inxi -Fxxxzr

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System:
  Kernel: 5.4.0-89-generic x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 9.3.0 
  Desktop: MATE 1.24.0 info: mate-panel wm: marco 1.24.0 dm: LightDM 1.30.0 
  Distro: Linux Mint 20.2 Uma base: Ubuntu 20.04 focal 
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: LENOVO product: 64606WG v: ThinkPad T61 
  serial: <filter> Chassis: type: 10 serial: <filter> 
  Mobo: LENOVO model: 64606WG serial: <filter> BIOS: LENOVO 
  v: 7LETC9WW (2.29 ) date: 03/18/2011 
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 69.1 Wh condition: 69.1/71.3 Wh (97%) volts: 12.4/10.8 
  model: SANYO 92P1137 type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: Full 
CPU:
  Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Core2 Duo T7500 bits: 64 type: MCP 
  arch: Core Merom rev: B L2 cache: 4096 KiB 
  flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 8778 
  Speed: 1038 MHz min/max: 800/2201 MHz boost: enabled Core speeds (MHz): 
  1: 798 2: 798 
Graphics:
  Device-1: NVIDIA G86M [Quadro NVS 140M] vendor: Lenovo ThinkPad T61 
  driver: N/A bus ID: 01:00.0 chip ID: 10de:0429 
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 driver: fbdev,nouveau 
  unloaded: modesetting,vesa compositor: marco v: 1.24.0 
  resolution: 1680x1050~77Hz 
  OpenGL: renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 12.0.0 128 bits) v: 4.5 Mesa 21.0.3 
  compat-v: 3.1 direct render: Yes 
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel 82801H HD Audio vendor: Lenovo ThinkPad T61/R61 
  driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1b.0 chip ID: 8086:284b 
  Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.4.0-89-generic 
Network:
  Device-1: Intel 82566MM Gigabit Network vendor: Lenovo ThinkPad T61/R61 
  driver: e1000e v: 3.2.6-k port: 1840 bus ID: 00:19.0 chip ID: 8086:1049 
  IF: enp0s25 state: down mac: <filter> 
  Device-2: Intel PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN [Kedron] Network 
  driver: iwl4965 v: in-tree: port: 2000 bus ID: 03:00.0 chip ID: 8086:4230 
  IF: wls3 state: up mac: <filter> 
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 1.26 TiB used: 999.29 GiB (77.7%) 
  ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: OCZ model: D2CSTK251M21-0240 size: 223.57 GiB 
  speed: 3.0 Gb/s serial: <filter> rev: 2.22 temp: 128 C scheme: MBR 
  ID-2: /dev/sdb type: USB vendor: Western Digital model: WD3200BEVT-22ZCT0 
  size: 298.09 GiB rotation: 5400 rpm serial: <filter> scheme: MBR 
  ID-3: /dev/sdc type: USB vendor: Western Digital 
  model: WD32 00BEVE-00A0HT0 size: 298.09 GiB serial: <filter> rev: 0000 
  scheme: MBR 
  ID-4: /dev/sdd type: USB vendor: Western Digital model: WD5000BPVT-00HXZT3 
  size: 465.76 GiB rotation: 5400 rpm serial: <filter> scheme: MBR 
Partition:
  ID-1: / size: 219.06 GiB used: 132.08 GiB (60.3%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1 
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 51.0 C mobo: 50.0 C 
  Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 3030 
Repos:
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/gambas-team-gambas3-focal.list 
  1: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/gambas-team/gambas3/ubuntu focal main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list 
  1: deb [arch=amd64] http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/official-package-repositories.list 
  1: deb http://packages.linuxmint.com uma main upstream import backport #id:linuxmint_main
  2: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal main restricted universe multiverse
  3: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal-updates main restricted universe multiverse
  4: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal-backports main restricted universe multiverse
  5: deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ focal-security main restricted universe multiverse
  6: deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ focal partner
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/opera-stable.list 
  1: deb https://deb.opera.com/opera-stable/ stable non-free #Opera Browser (final releases)
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/spotify.list 
Info:
  Processes: 207 Uptime: 9m Memory: 7.71 GiB used: 1.35 GiB (17.6%) 
  Init: systemd v: 245 runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 9.3.0 alt: 7/9 
  Shell: bash v: 5.0.17 running in: mate-terminal inxi: 3.0.38 
sudo fdisk -l

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Disk /dev/sda: 223.58 GiB, 240057409536 bytes, 468862128 sectors
Disk model: D2CSTK251M21-024
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disklabel type: dos
Disk identifier: 0x77e3c647

Device     Boot Start       End   Sectors   Size Id Type
/dev/sda1  *     2048 468860927 468858880 223.6G 83 Linux


Disk /dev/sdc: 298.9 GiB, 320072933376 bytes, 625142448 sectors
Disk model: 00BEVE-00A0HT0  
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disklabel type: dos
Disk identifier: 0xb0e3a069

Device     Boot Start       End   Sectors   Size Id Type
/dev/sdc1        2048 625141759 625139712 298.1G  b W95 FAT32


Disk /dev/sdd: 465.78 GiB, 500107862016 bytes, 976773168 sectors
Disk model: 2115            
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
Disklabel type: dos
Disk identifier: 0xd7d2b18a

Device     Boot Start       End   Sectors   Size Id Type
/dev/sdd1  *     2048 976773119 976771072 465.8G  b W95 FAT32


Disk /dev/sdb: 298.9 GiB, 320072933376 bytes, 625142448 sectors
Disk model: ASMT1051        
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 33553920 bytes
Disklabel type: dos
Disk identifier: 0xb36344ea

Device     Boot Start       End   Sectors   Size Id Type
/dev/sdb1        2048 625141759 625139712 298.1G  7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
cat /etc/fstab

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# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# Use 'blkid' to print the universally unique identifier for a
# device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name devices
# that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5).
#
# <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
# / was on /dev/sda1 during installation
# Bootability restore: Change id = 0A6179A2-FBDF-41FB-A792-EBB48F132FD4
UUID=f73ceb41-9395-d8c0-1827-b775946beecc / ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 1 
/swapfile                                 none            swap    sw              0       0
sudo blkid

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/dev/sda1: UUID="f73ceb41-9395-d8c0-1827-b775946beecc" TYPE="ext4" PARTUUID="77e3c647-01"
/dev/sdc1: LABEL_FATBOOT="320GB" LABEL="320GB" UUID="E019-DD82" TYPE="vfat" PARTUUID="b0e3a069-01"
/dev/sdd1: LABEL_FATBOOT="500GB" LABEL="500GB" UUID="D09B-1F97" TYPE="vfat" PARTUUID="d7d2b18a-01"
/dev/sdb1: LABEL="300GB" UUID="05D3F2C424761AEB" TYPE="ntfs" PTTYPE="dos" PARTUUID="b36344ea-01"
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There is no sdf disk ( :shock: ) and it looks like you have made some kind of repair you don't mention -
# Bootability restore: Change id = 0A6179A2-FBDF-41FB-A792-EBB48F132FD4
UUID=f73ceb41-9395-d8c0-1827-b775946beecc / ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 1
Any way, run sudo update-grub and reboot to see GRUB menu again. If that other entry is still run sudo os-prober and post back result.
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I have not done any "repair" at least not intentionally. The only thing I can think did this is my backup. My computer has an easily swappable hard drive caddy, so I put a spare in my ultrabay and run Clonezilla. I do this quite frequently and after each time I swap the "old" SSD with the newly made copy. Perhaps some "repairing" occurs then.
I will do what you suggested and report.
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Installing updates (as kernel) when that spare disk is attached would explain that second entry (the copy option) in GRUB menu. Running sudo update-grub w/o that spare disk will remove that option.
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Re: my version

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Ran the grub update and now on reboot I no longer have any choices, it boots right up. The "old" SSD still boots that way as I expected it would. Thanks.
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Yes it is. If no other system is detected grub menu wont be shown. I was wrong thinking you have modified grub default options in order to see that beautiful background on starting. Sorry. :wink:
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Re: my version

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That is an actaul photo I shot of a pond at a lake near my house. I use the same picture as my wallpaper, so nothing lost by the lack of a startup screen. Maybe when I do a kernel update I should have my extra hard drives unplugged? I use a docking station which gives me access to three storage hard drives.
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newyorkpaulie wrote: Sun Oct 24, 2021 3:41 pm Maybe when I do a kernel update I should have my extra hard drives unplugged? I use a docking station which gives me access to three storage hard drives.
That is an option, unplug before installing certain updates. As there is no other system installed, you can avoid grub re-write its config. file including such option when updating with spare disk connected. By examp.
1)Edit /etc/default/grub, xed admin:///etc/default/grub,

2)Include a line with GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=true,
(...)
# Uncomment if you don't want GRUB to pass "root=UUID=xxx" parameter to Linux
#GRUB_DISABLE_LINUX_UUID=true

# Uncomment to disable generation of recovery mode menu entries
#GRUB_DISABLE_RECOVERY="true"

#Comment to enable generation of another OSes menu entries
GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=true


# Uncomment to get a beep at grub start
#GRUB_INIT_TUNE="480 440 1"
(...)
3)save changes. close editor and run sudo update-grub.
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Having gotten the following when I entered the edit command do I need to correct something?:

paulie@paulie-ThinkPad-T61:~$ xed admin:///etc/default/grub

** (xed:21729): WARNING **: 08:41:21.591: The specified location is not mounted
paulie@paulie-ThinkPad-T61:~$
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Re: my version

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Now, in order to close this thread,
-Edit file with nano editor in terminal with sudoedit /etc/default/grub or sudo nano /etc/default/grub.

-Create the line (as per previous post)

-press Ctrl+o and Enter to save changes in file and Ctrl +x to close nano.

-Run sudo update-grub and reboot.
Then, about graghical editor (xed)
newyorkpaulie wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 8:47 am Having gotten the following when I entered the edit command do I need to correct something?:

paulie@paulie-ThinkPad-T61:~$ xed admin:///etc/default/grub

** (xed:21729): WARNING **: 08:41:21.591: The specified location is not mounted
paulie@paulie-ThinkPad-T61:~$
As you can see in image, that warning would be normal...if you are asked for password on another pop-up window. After introducing you password, you will be asked for password another time and then file will be open in editor.
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If that window doesn't pop-up (twice)...that's will be a problem with graphics.

You can try anabling/disabling compositor or with another windows manager as metacity in Menu>Control Centre (System Settings)>Desktop settings>Windows... (in a terminal try sudo marco --replace or sudo metacity --replace).

Looking at inxi report, graphic driver is not charged correctly so you are using CPU for rendering not GPU.
Graphics:
Device-1: NVIDIA G86M [Quadro NVS 140M] vendor: Lenovo ThinkPad T61
driver: N/A bus ID: 01:00.0 chip ID: 10de:0429
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 driver: fbdev,nouveau
unloaded: modesetting,vesa compositor: marco v: 1.24.0
resolution: 1680x1050~77Hz
OpenGL: renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 12.0.0 128 bits) v: 4.5 Mesa 21.0.3
compat-v: 3.1 direct render: Yes
It looks like you have tried to install an alternative driver (from Driver Manger?) and failed. Maybe you only need to blacklist nouveau, ensure nvidia-drm is charged on starting, delete xorg config. file if you have created,... or need to purge nvidia driver and install it again.

You'd better open another thread with that problem. In that post, put in clear what you did and also provide following code result to be sure what is happening

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dpkg -l | grep nvidia*
xrandr --verbose
ubuntu-drivers devices
cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | nc termbin.com 9999
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