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Re: What do you not like about Cinnamon?

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:08 pm
by Orbmiser
bimsebasse wrote:ac, you are one of legio. I filed a "improved theme handling" feature request on Cinnamon's developer hub long time ago but it was quickly closed. For some reason it's a complete blind spot among developers, not recognized as the major cause of confusion and frustration it is.
Yep and you other quote

"Cinnamon themes" only changes Cinnamon, for windows you need to go to "Other Settings"
and change "GTK+ theme" and "Window theme"

Which tells me too much tweaking just to get a unified theme across destop & apps. Then complete confusion and breakage of Gtk vs. Gtk+ version 3.5 vs. 3.6 not implemented correctly or differently breaking themes. Icon issues.

Cinnamon is pretty damn good but could do better about those issues. The other issues are more about gnome like no feature rich and powerful CD/DVD burning apps unless you cross the border to kde land for them kind of things or use wine. Still holes in what is considered basic window applications with few linux equivalents or choices.

And still peeved about the battle still going on with no resolution of the apps remember windows size & position. "It's the DE that is responsible" no...no...no "It's the Application responsibility to take care of that". And coming back years latter and seeing it still hasn't change and nobody willing to budge for the sake of the users out there.

Otherwise looking great and loving Cinnamon and waiting for the "Hot & Buttered Buns" edition! 8)

Re: What do you not like about Cinnamon?

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 4:24 pm
by acw89
Found yet another thing about Cinnamon that is a bit annoying. :roll:

On the panel going left to right, we have the Quick Launch area, the Windows List area and the notification area.
I have noticed that as applications that are minimized collect in the Windows List area, they do not scale down
but will start to overlap the Quick Launch area. If I have 5 programs minimized I am fine, but as soon as I
open up and minimize the 6th program, the Quick Launch ends up getting covered.

I would assume this is a function of Cinnamon, but wonder if it could be a fault of the Theme I am using.

If someone knows a fix for this I would appreciate it. I looked everywhere I could think of feeling this might
be a setting I need to change, but to no avail.

:mrgreen:

System: Host: --- Kernel: 3.2.0-23-generic x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: Gnome Distro: Linux Mint 13 Maya

Re: What do you not like about Cinnamon?

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 5:12 pm
by cwwgateway
Just found this thread (although it seems to have been around for a while with 6 pages).

My major complaint about Cinnamon are that with two monitors, the shadow around the panel appears on the second monitor, so you have a small shadow in the corner of the second monitor. My other complaint is that the window animations are not particularly fluid, even with a decent graphics card. I guess it's easier to be a critic than an autor :) .

Re: What do you not like about Cinnamon?

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 5:32 pm
by iamcross
I don't like the fact that the menu opens too slow.

Also, I dislike the bar that adds at the top of every window. It consumes too much space.

Re: What do you not like about Cinnamon?

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:38 am
by SallyK
acw89 wrote:Found yet another thing about Cinnamon that is a bit annoying. :roll:

On the panel going left to right, we have the Quick Launch area, the Windows List area and the notification area.
I have noticed that as applications that are minimized collect in the Windows List area, they do not scale down
but will start to overlap the Quick Launch area. If I have 5 programs minimized I am fine, but as soon as I
open up and minimize the 6th program, the Quick Launch ends up getting covered.

I would assume this is a function of Cinnamon, but wonder if it could be a fault of the Theme I am using.

If someone knows a fix for this I would appreciate it. I looked everywhere I could think of feeling this might
be a setting I need to change, but to no avail.
See this post - http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 8&t=104756

Hopefully that will fix the problem.

Re: What do you not like about Cinnamon?

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:22 pm
by acw89
I have given up on Cinnamon.

Just seems like when you change things .. other things get changed that make no sense and then you can not easily change them back.
Did super backup and then reloaded Mint 13 Mate addition. Much better .. Only a few problems.

Will come back to Cinnamon perahps someday when its more ironed out...

Glad to at least have a choice :mrgreen:

Re: What do you not like about Cinnamon?

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:30 pm
by bimsebasse
acw89 wrote: Just seems like when you change things .. other things get changed that make no sense and then you can not easily change them back
You should file that as a bug report :D

Re: What do you not like about Cinnamon?

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 1:15 pm
by acw89
bimsebasse, If I could replicate the issues I would put together a bug report, but the behavior was getting so irregular. I had a lot of problems with stuff on the panel. Then the system would freeze and I would have to reboot.

I may return to Cinnamon someday as I am sure I can load it back, but its far too agrevating to deal with now. I felt I just was not getting the right "Bang for my buck" from this upgrade. Some learning curves and minor gliches are worth putting up with, but if I do not feel I am gaining anything and, am in fact losing the simple customization I am used to, then its time to say good bye to Cinnamon.

I upgraded to Mint 13 Mate and am totally happy with it. So glad we have a choice. :mrgreen:

Linux is not like Windows........ Thank God!!!! :lol:

Re: What do you not like about Cinnamon?

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 10:00 pm
by eejd
Where can I find he setting to prevent screen blanking?

Re: What do you not like about Cinnamon?

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 5:27 am
by xenopeek
eejd wrote:Where can I find he setting to prevent screen blanking?
System Settings -> Brightness and Lock. Though if you only have the screen blanking issue with VLC, that is a known problem of VLC...

Re: What do you not like about Cinnamon?

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:11 am
by RobCandee
I also do not like the loss of the scrollbar arrows. A suggestion was made above to use a theme that contains them - but is there any way to find such a theme besides selecting them one by one? None of the themes that came with Cinnamon seem to have them.

For me this is not a simple matter of personal taste - on both machines that I own, the touchpad has the least amount of control; the mouse wheel has better control, and using the mouse to click and slide the scrollbar the best of the three - but in many cases that best is still insufficient. The lack of scrollbar arrows make a task that used to be fairly easy into a real chore.

Re: What do you not like about Cinnamon?

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 5:14 am
by nomko
What i don't like is this: When i open the Cinnamon menu, i see more entries than in the menu editor. There are some entries in the menu i would like to uncheck so it is not visible in the Cinnamon menu. But when i go to the menu editor, those entries are missing. I'm not at home right now, but as soon as i'm home ill make some screenshots to clarify this.

Re: What do you not like about Cinnamon?

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 7:09 am
by xenopeek
nomko wrote:When i open the Cinnamon menu, i see more entries than in the menu editor.
Yes, you can not use the menu editor to for entries in the Preferences or Administration section of the menu.

Re: What do you not like about Cinnamon?

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:30 am
by ingeva
Well, I really don't know. I stopped using it a long time ago. Looks too much like Windows and Mac, I guess. MATE is nice though - as long as it may last.

Re: What do you not like about Cinnamon?

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 3:51 pm
by sofasufi
As someone who's just moved over to Linux from XP, I'm moving Mint 13 Cinnamon. There are a few niggling problems like an inability - for me anyway - to create custom short cuts. I also find tweaking the panel often causes unwanted things to happen. I think it's great that the Mint team are really getting behind Cinnamon, as I think it can be a real winner in the DE department. However, I would gladly sacrifice some leading edge functionality in the shorter term, for greater stability & ironing out existing bugs. Having said that, I LOVE CINNAMON. Serious eye candy & intuitive in my opinion. Great work Mint crew!!!

Re: What do you not like about Cinnamon?

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 4:40 am
by nomko
ingeva wrote:Well, I really don't know. I stopped using it a long time ago. Looks too much like Windows and Mac, I guess. MATE is nice though - as long as it may last.
MATE gives me also a Windows feelings...

Re: What do you not like about Cinnamon?

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:50 am
by seckford
I can live with most of the defaults, although the inability to organise the panel layout is annoying,
and so are the (non) scrolling menus.

The real snag is the lack of fixed window positions in Nemo; I hope that's added sometime soon.
However, although Cinnamon isn't as good as Gnome 2, it's way, way ahead of anything else around.

Will

Re: What do you not like about Cinnamon?

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 5:43 pm
by d00med
seckford wrote:I can live with most of the defaults, although the inability to organise the panel layout is annoying,
and so are the (non) scrolling menus.

The real snag is the lack of fixed window positions in Nemo; I hope that's added sometime soon.
However, although Cinnamon isn't as good as Gnome 2, it's way, way ahead of anything else around.

Will
You can organize the panel layout by right-clicking on the panel and turning on panel edit mode, and you can add and remove elements in that popup menu as well.

The fixed window thing can be annoying, but that's a GTK3 limitation. There's an app called Devil's Pie that will position your windows on launch, until that's implemented.
iamcross wrote:I don't like the fact that the menu opens too slow.

Also, I dislike the bar that adds at the top of every window. It consumes too much space.
The Windows 7 menu applet is a lot faster, and you can speed up menu rendering in your theme by editing its CSS file (cinnamon.css, change all transitions to zero: transition-duration: 0;)

Re: What do you not like about Cinnamon?

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:18 pm
by Gandalf the White
Forgive, me but I haven't read through all these dislikes. This may have been indicated already and if so than I'll just add my voice to the count.

PASSWORDS. PASSWORDS. PASSWORDS. PASSWORDS. PASSWORDS. PASSWORDS. PASSWORDS. PASSWORDS. PASSWORDS.

Not only to log into the computer, but for access to every program another PASSWORD request.
I saw a forum on line where you had to answer four questions each time you wanted to submit a post.
Needless to say I'm not an active member of that forum.

I used to work at America's NSA, so believe me when I say, if a bad guy wants access to your computer, either physically or on line, they'll get it. All these PASSWORDS are only irritants for the good guys. To the real bad guys, it is just a good laugh.

Gandalf

Re: What do you not like about Cinnamon?

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:47 pm
by xenopeek
The topic is what you do not like about Cinnamon, not what you do not like about the operating system. That you need to enter your password when you start a program as root is defined by the operating system (sudo configuration), not Cinnamon :wink:

It's also on by default as a sensible setting for users new to Linux and non-technical users. More experienced users can, if they want, disable it by changing the sudo configuration.