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Re: Is Cinnamon Mint 18.1 bloated?

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 1:02 am
by linuxviolin
Penn wrote:I guess you either didn't notice or are just disregarding the comments from the 2 of us who are using LMDE (the "M" does stand for Mint).
I just answered to the OP who said his system "runs 244 processes with just the terminal running and freshly booted?"... :wink:
Penn wrote:So, yeah, my experience tells me the issue is the Ubuntu base and true Ubuntu.
An Ubuntu problem? Maybe, yes.

Re: Is Cinnamon Mint 18.1 bloated?

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 3:19 am
by ColdBoot
linuxviolin wrote:Hum, for comparison, I looked in Manjaro and I had:

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ps -e|wc -l
160
after several resumes after hibernation then several hours of use and Firefox with about ten tabs open...

So, this could be a Mint problem? :?:
The trick is to check it immediately after you wake the machine, then tell us what you saw in Manjaro. In Mint it takes a little while (somewhere around a minute) till the number is reduced.

Re: Is Cinnamon Mint 18.1 bloated?

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 10:19 am
by ColdBoot
Penn wrote: During those 2 days I did a wide variety of activities which I would think cover a normal spectrum of usage for most people.

Fedora based and Elementary take much longer to reach an unusable level,
Bear in mind that Elementary is also Ubuntu based. Maybe, you are not using the same applications sets in all distros. For example, I think that, from several versions back, Firefox is leaking a lot of memory when certain sites are browsed - 1MB per second, it's just using more and more even if you're not doing anything.

Re: Is Cinnamon Mint 18.1 bloated?

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 10:50 am
by Penn
ColdBoot wrote:
Penn wrote: During those 2 days I did a wide variety of activities which I would think cover a normal spectrum of usage for most people.

Fedora based and Elementary take much longer to reach an unusable level,
Bear in mind that Elementary is also Ubuntu based. Maybe, you are not using the same applications sets in all distros. For example, I think that, from several versions back, Firefox is leaking a lot of memory when certain sites are browsed - 1MB per second, it's just using more and more even if you're not doing anything.
Elementary being Ubuntu based is part of why it seemed odd to me that it lasted longer than Ubuntu an Mint 17.3 or 18. I had heard somewhere along the line it was more of a Debian/Ubuntu hybrid base but everywhere but that one source said Ubuntu only so I just thought with the performance difference maybe there was something to it. Still, since the most I could get out of Elementary was to boot up in the morning and only use it almost until the day was over before reboot was necessary lends more to the possibility it is just the Ubuntu base of Mint that is bloated.

Re: Is Cinnamon Mint 18.1 bloated?

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 1:24 pm
by ColdBoot
Try

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sudo sh -c "sync; echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches"
once a day when you're about to suspend it, to see if it gets any better.

Re: Is Cinnamon Mint 18.1 bloated?

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 9:45 pm
by linuxviolin
ColdBoot wrote:The trick is to check it immediately after you wake the machine, then tell us what you saw in Manjaro. In Mint it takes a little while (somewhere around a minute) till the number is reduced.
You mean just after an hibernation or just after a boot? Or it's the same thing maybe?

After a boot, here is:

- just after boot:

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ps -e|wc -l
168
- some seconds after:

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ps -e|wc -l
170
- about 30' after again with Waterfox opens:

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ps -e|wc -l
156
- and again some seconds later, always with Waterfox:

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ps -e|wc -l
158
This is what you asked? :mrgreen:

Re: Is Cinnamon Mint 18.1 bloated?

Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:43 am
by ColdBoot
No, not after hibernation but after suspend(sleep). Since I don't have a swap file I don't use hibernation but I use suspend a lot (much faster, btw) and that's how I noticed.

Anyway, the number falls down to around 160 after a while so there's no issue with that.

P.S. After writing the above and having closed Chrome and Libre Calc running in background, I've taken a look at my number and...

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Re: Is Cinnamon Mint 18.1 bloated?

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 11:13 am
by deepakdeshp
The figure is for a freshly booted Cinnamon 18.1 with just a terminal open.

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ps -e|wc -l
244

Re: Is Cinnamon Mint 18.1 bloated?

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 2:05 pm
by ColdBoot
deepakdeshp wrote:The figure is for a freshly booted Cinnamon 18.1 with just a terminal open.

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ps -e|wc -l
244
Meaningless figure since it doesn't disclose what software you're running apart from what came pre-installed with the distro. Because I have 60 less after 45min. browsing in Chrome and terminal opened. Bloated? Hardly so but you've made a bloat of it.

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