[FIXED, the problem was Nautilus] How to crash/mess up Nemo Desktop and your wallpaper in 2 steps

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[FIXED, the problem was Nautilus] How to crash/mess up Nemo Desktop and your wallpaper in 2 steps

Post by Yfrwlf » Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:55 am

1. From a fresh login, and in particular having never opened a Nemo file browser window, have an image on your desktop and click on it to open it in Xviewer.

2. Right-click in the viewer then click on "Show Containing Folder".

Watch how your background turns black and the Nemo file browser window that opens when you do that shows as messed up in comparison to a normal browser window (the file, edit, view bar will be gone). You can also do this from Firefox if you right-click on show containing folder from a download.

However, if you load up a Nemo file browser before doing the above steps, everything will work just fine.

Fully-updated (Unstable? Whatever the Always Update Everything gets you) Mint 18.3 w/ Cinnamon 3.6.7 and on NVIDIA 390.25 drivers.

Opened bug on github: https://github.com/linuxmint/Cinnamon/issues/7293

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EDIT: The fix is to remove Nautilus as it conflicts with Nemo and when installed some programs can prefer Nautilus instead. Leaving the info below in case anyone else runs into this!

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apt remove nautilus nautilus-data
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Re: [bug] How to crash/mess up Nemo Desktop and your wallpaper in 2 steps

Post by austin.texas » Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:27 pm

I can't reproduce that problem on a fresh installation of Mint 18.3 w/ Cinnamon
Everything works as it should.
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Re: [bug] How to crash/mess up Nemo Desktop and your wallpaper in 2 steps

Post by all41 » Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:11 pm

Try careating a new user, log off and log back in as the new user.
See if the problem exists with new user.
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Re: [bug] How to crash/mess up Nemo Desktop and your wallpaper in 2 steps

Post by Yfrwlf » Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:26 pm

all41 wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:11 pm
Try careating a new user, log off and log back in as the new user.
See if the problem exists with new user.
Thanks, mtwebster actually just fixed it for me though! The cause was Nautilus being installed, and certain programs such as Xviewer and Firefox preferring to open Nautilus instead of Nemo. Apparently this preference is temporary and gets switched when you load Nemo, but only in some cases or for a period of time. Very strange.

Anyway, I'm leaving this here in case anyone else runs into this. The fix is

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apt remove nautilus nautilus-data

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Re: [bug] How to crash/mess up Nemo Desktop and your wallpaper in 2 steps

Post by Yfrwlf » Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:33 pm

austin.texas wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:27 pm
I can't reproduce that problem on a fresh installation of Mint 18.3 w/ Cinnamon
Everything works as it should.
I don't know how I got Nautilus accidentally installed at some point, but I did! X3

I assume the issue is applications hard-coded to open Nautilus instead of using a XDG/freedesktop standard? Or maybe there isn't a standard yet. That should definitely be rectified if so to prevent this in the future! Or maybe there is a standard, but that gnome settings or dconf setting keeps being bulldozed over by both Nemo and/or Nautilus for some reason?

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Re: [FIXED, the problem was Nautilus] How to crash/mess up Nemo Desktop and your wallpaper in 2 steps

Post by Cosmo. » Sat Feb 17, 2018 5:35 pm

Getting Nautilus silently installed can happen, if recommended packages get automatically selected to get installed. E. g. cheese is such a case.

What I cannot understand is, that Xviewer, an own Mint program, shall prefer Nautilus to Nemo; this would really be strange.

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Re: [FIXED, the problem was Nautilus] How to crash/mess up Nemo Desktop and your wallpaper in 2 steps

Post by Yfrwlf » Sat Feb 17, 2018 6:36 pm

Cosmo. wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2018 5:35 pm
Getting Nautilus silently installed can happen, if recommended packages get automatically selected to get installed. E. g. cheese is such a case.

What I cannot understand is, that Xviewer, an own Mint program, shall prefer Nautilus to Nemo; this would really be strange.
Well it is just the forked image viewer from Ubuntu, so either there are some settings in that which are causing it and need to be cleaned up, or the nautilus package is doing some reconfiguring of some settings when it gets installed. If the nautilus package is in the Ubuntu repos, the Mint devs can't really stop that from happening unless they provide their own nautilus package and mask Ubuntu's, if that's a thing apt can do.

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