Cinnamon just down (or something like )...

[elviolmp]

Eventually my cinnamon just say:
"cinnamon just down" maybe a fail in extension, desklet or applet. Restart cinnamon?

https://photos.app.goo.gl/TaNNK35wK82R8XkQ7

Below, a journalctl list:

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elvio@note-elvio: ~ $ journalctl -b | grep -i applet
set 11 07:42:12 note-elvio NetworkManager[834]: <info>  [1599820932.2163] agent-manager: agent[bce85dba869f2e6c,:1.70/org.freedesktop.nm-applet/1000]: agent registered
set 11 07:43:14 note-elvio dbus-daemon[1486]: [session uid=1000 pid=1486] Activating service name='org.mate.panel.applet.MintMenuAppletFactory' requested by ':1.102' (uid=1000 pid=3243 comm="mate-panel --replace " label="unconfined")
set 11 07:43:14 note-elvio dbus-daemon[1486]: [session uid=1000 pid=1486] Activating service name='org.mate.panel.applet.WnckletFactory' requested by ':1.102' (uid=1000 pid=3243 comm="mate-panel --replace " label="unconfined")
set 11 07:43:14 note-elvio dbus-daemon[1486]: [session uid=1000 pid=1486] Activating service name='org.mate.panel.applet.ClockAppletFactory' requested by ':1.102' (uid=1000 pid=3243 comm="mate-panel --replace " label="unconfined")
set 11 07:43:14 note-elvio dbus-daemon[1486]: [session uid=1000 pid=1486] Activating service name='org.mate.panel.applet.NotificationAreaAppletFactory' requested by ':1.102' (uid=1000 pid=3243 comm="mate-panel --replace " label="unconfined")
set 11 07:43:14 note-elvio dbus-daemon[1486]: [session uid=1000 pid=1486] Activating service name='org.mate.panel.applet.MateXAppStatusAppletFactory' requested by ':1.102' (uid=1000 pid=3243 comm="mate-panel --replace " label="unconfined")
set 11 07:43:15 note-elvio dbus-daemon[1486]: [session uid=1000 pid=1486] Successfully activated service 'org.mate.panel.applet.ClockAppletFactory'
set 11 07:43:15 note-elvio dbus-daemon[1486]: [session uid=1000 pid=1486] Successfully activated service 'org.mate.panel.applet.NotificationAreaAppletFactory'
set 11 07:43:15 note-elvio dbus-daemon[1486]: [session uid=1000 pid=1486] Successfully activated service 'org.mate.panel.applet.WnckletFactory'
set 11 07:43:15 note-elvio dbus-daemon[1486]: [session uid=1000 pid=1486] Successfully activated service 'org.mate.panel.applet.MateXAppStatusAppletFactory'
set 11 07:43:15 note-elvio clock-applet[3263]: Call can set time zone dbus method: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.mate.SettingsDaemon.DateTimeMechanism was not provided by any .service files
set 11 07:43:15 note-elvio clock-applet[3263]: Negative content width -7 (allocation 1, extents 4x4) while allocating gadget (node button, owner GtkToggleButton)
set 11 07:43:15 note-elvio dbus-daemon[1486]: [session uid=1000 pid=1486] Successfully activated service 'org.mate.panel.applet.MintMenuAppletFactory'
set 11 07:43:16 note-elvio org.mate.panel.applet.MintMenuAppletFactory[3379]: [90B blob data]
set 11 07:43:16 note-elvio org.mate.panel.applet.MintMenuAppletFactory[3379]: [155B blob data]
set 11 07:43:16 note-elvio org.mate.panel.applet.MintMenuAppletFactory[3379]: [100B blob data]
set 11 07:43:27 note-elvio org.mate.panel.applet.MintMenuAppletFactory[3266]: /usr/lib/linuxmint/mintMenu/mintMenu.py:498: DeprecationWarning: MatePanelApplet.Applet.set_background_widget is deprecated
set 11 07:43:27 note-elvio org.mate.panel.applet.MintMenuAppletFactory[3266]:   self.applet.set_background_widget(self.applet)
set 11 07:43:27 note-elvio org.mate.panel.applet.MintMenuAppletFactory[3266]: /usr/lib/linuxmint/mintMenu/mintMenu.py:176: DeprecationWarning: Gtk.Alignment.new is deprecated
set 11 07:43:27 note-elvio org.mate.panel.applet.MintMenuAppletFactory[3266]:   Align1 = Gtk.Alignment.new(0, 0, 0, 0)
set 11 07:43:27 note-elvio org.mate.panel.applet.MintMenuAppletFactory[3266]: /usr/lib/linuxmint/mintMenu/mintMenu.py:177: DeprecationWarning: Gtk.Alignment.set_padding is deprecated
set 11 07:43:27 note-elvio org.mate.panel.applet.MintMenuAppletFactory[3266]:   Align1.set_padding(10, 5, 10, 0)
set 11 07:43:27 note-elvio org.mate.panel.applet.MintMenuAppletFactory[3266]: /usr/share/applications/gnome-calculator.desktop does not exist, skipping.
set 11 07:43:27 note-elvio org.mate.panel.applet.MintMenuAppletFactory[3266]: /usr/share/applications/gcalctool.desktop does not exist, skipping.
set 11 07:43:27 note-elvio org.mate.panel.applet.MintMenuAppletFactory[3266]: /usr/share/applications/mate-terminal.desktop does not exist, skipping.
set 11 07:43:27 note-elvio org.mate.panel.applet.MintMenuAppletFactory[3266]: /usr/share/applications/gnome-terminal.desktop does not exist, skipping.
set 11 07:43:27 note-elvio org.mate.panel.applet.MintMenuAppletFactory[3266]: /usr/share/applications/mate-volume-control.desktop does not exist, skipping.
set 11 07:43:27 note-elvio org.mate.panel.applet.MintMenuAppletFactory[3266]: /usr/share/applications/xfce4-mixer.desktop does not exist, skipping.
set 11 07:43:27 note-elvio org.mate.panel.applet.MintMenuAppletFactory[3266]: /usr/share/applications/mate-display-properties.desktop does not exist, skipping.
set 11 07:43:27 note-elvio org.mate.panel.applet.MintMenuAppletFactory[3266]: /usr/share/applications/xfce-display-settings.desktop does not exist, skipping.
set 11 07:43:27 note-elvio org.mate.panel.applet.MintMenuAppletFactory[3266]: /usr/share/applications/mate-system-monitor.desktop does not exist, skipping.
set 11 07:43:27 note-elvio org.mate.panel.applet.MintMenuAppletFactory[3266]: /usr/share/applications/xfce4-taskmanager.desktop does not exist, skipping.
set 11 07:43:27 note-elvio org.mate.panel.applet.MintMenuAppletFactory[3266]: Binding to Hot Key: Super_L
set 11 07:43:27 note-elvio org.mate.panel.applet.MateXAppStatusAppletFactory[3268]: /usr/libexec/xapps/mate-xapp-status-applet.py:309: DeprecationWarning: MatePanelApplet.Applet.set_background_widget is deprecated
set 11 07:43:27 note-elvio org.mate.panel.applet.MateXAppStatusAppletFactory[3268]:   self.applet.set_background_widget(self.applet)
set 11 07:43:27 note-elvio org.mate.panel.applet.MateXAppStatusAppletFactory[3268]: /usr/libexec/xapps/mate-xapp-status-applet.py:326: DeprecationWarning: Gtk.ActionGroup.set_translation_domain is deprecated
set 11 07:43:27 note-elvio org.mate.panel.applet.MateXAppStatusAppletFactory[3268]:   group.set_translation_domain("xapp")
set 11 07:43:27 note-elvio org.mate.panel.applet.MateXAppStatusAppletFactory[3268]: /usr/libexec/xapps/mate-xapp-status-applet.py:334: DeprecationWarning: Gtk.ActionGroup.add_action is deprecated
set 11 07:43:27 note-elvio org.mate.panel.applet.MateXAppStatusAppletFactory[3268]:   group.add_action(about_action)
set 11 07:43:27 note-elvio org.mate.panel.applet.MateXAppStatusAppletFactory[3268]: /usr/libexec/xapps/mate-xapp-status-applet.py:91: DeprecationWarning: Gtk.Button.set_focus_on_click is deprecated
set 11 07:43:27 note-elvio org.mate.panel.applet.MateXAppStatusAppletFactory[3268]:   self.set_focus_on_click(False)
elvio@note-elvio: ~ $

I'm not finding exactly the problem that causes this situation.

Can sombody help me ?

Thank you.

[Lord Boltar]

Most of the time Cinnamon crashes are caused by nVidia Graphics card need the out put of

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lspci -vnnn

so that we can see the part kernel driver in use

[SMG]

You are running Cinnamon using the MATE desktop? Those messages are about activating org.mate.panel.applets. I run the Cinnamon desktop and I have no mention of MATE applets in my syslogs.

Can you please give us information about your install by entering this command in a terminal:

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inxi -Fxxxrz

Enclose the results between [ⅽode] and [/ⅽode] code markers by selecting </> from the mini toolbar above the textbox where you type your reply. This will let us know how Mint sees your hardware.

[elviolmp]

The result:

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00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT DRAM Controller [8086:0a04] (rev 09)
	Subsystem: Dell Haswell-ULT DRAM Controller [1028:0609]
	Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: hsw_uncore

00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0a16] (rev 09) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
	Subsystem: Dell Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller [1028:0609]
	Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 46
	Memory at f0000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4M]
	Memory at e0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
	I/O ports at 5000 [size=64]
	Expansion ROM at 000c0000 [virtual] [disabled] [size=128K]
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: i915
	Kernel modules: i915

00:14.0 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 8 Series USB xHCI HC [8086:9c31] (rev 04) (prog-if 30 [XHCI])
	Subsystem: Dell 8 Series USB xHCI HC [1028:0609]
	Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 43
	Memory at f0800000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: xhci_hcd

00:16.0 Communication controller [0780]: Intel Corporation 8 Series HECI #0 [8086:9c3a] (rev 04)
	Subsystem: Dell 8 Series HECI [1028:0609]
	Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 48
	Memory at f0814000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=32]
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: mei_me
	Kernel modules: mei_me

00:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation 8 Series HD Audio Controller [8086:9c20] (rev 04)
	Subsystem: Dell 8 Series HD Audio Controller [1028:0609]
	Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 49
	Memory at f0810000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
	Kernel modules: snd_hda_intel

00:1c.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 8 Series PCI Express Root Port 3 [8086:9c14] (rev e4) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
	Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 40
	Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=0
	I/O behind bridge: 00004000-00004fff [size=4K]
	Memory behind bridge: f0700000-f07fffff [size=1M]
	Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 00000000f0400000-00000000f04fffff [size=1M]
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: pcieport

00:1c.3 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 8 Series PCI Express Root Port 4 [8086:9c16] (rev e4) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
	Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 41
	Bus: primary=00, secondary=02, subordinate=02, sec-latency=0
	I/O behind bridge: [disabled]
	Memory behind bridge: f0600000-f06fffff [size=1M]
	Prefetchable memory behind bridge: [disabled]
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: pcieport

00:1c.4 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 8 Series PCI Express Root Port 5 [8086:9c18] (rev e4) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
	Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 42
	Bus: primary=00, secondary=03, subordinate=03, sec-latency=0
	I/O behind bridge: 00003000-00003fff [size=4K]
	Memory behind bridge: f0500000-f05fffff [size=1M]
	Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 00000000d0000000-00000000dfffffff [size=256M]
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: pcieport

00:1d.0 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 8 Series USB EHCI #1 [8086:9c26] (rev 04) (prog-if 20 [EHCI])
	Subsystem: Dell 8 Series USB EHCI [1028:0609]
	Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 23
	Memory at f0818000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1K]
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: ehci-pci

00:1f.0 ISA bridge [0601]: Intel Corporation 8 Series LPC Controller [8086:9c43] (rev 04)
	Subsystem: Dell 8 Series LPC Controller [1028:0609]
	Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: lpc_ich
	Kernel modules: lpc_ich

00:1f.2 SATA controller [0106]: Intel Corporation 8 Series SATA Controller 1 [AHCI mode] [8086:9c03] (rev 04) (prog-if 01 [AHCI 1.0])
	Subsystem: Dell 8 Series SATA Controller 1 [AHCI mode] [1028:0609]
	Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 44
	I/O ports at 5088 [size=8]
	I/O ports at 5094 [size=4]
	I/O ports at 5080 [size=8]
	I/O ports at 5090 [size=4]
	I/O ports at 5060 [size=32]
	Memory at f0817000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=2K]
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: ahci
	Kernel modules: ahci

00:1f.3 SMBus [0c05]: Intel Corporation 8 Series SMBus Controller [8086:9c22] (rev 04)
	Subsystem: Dell 8 Series SMBus Controller [1028:0609]
	Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 18
	Memory at f0815000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]
	I/O ports at 5040 [size=32]
	Kernel driver in use: i801_smbus
	Kernel modules: i2c_i801

01:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller [10ec:8168] (rev 0c)
	Subsystem: Dell RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller [1028:0609]
	Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 18
	I/O ports at 4000 [size=256]
	Memory at f0700000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
	Memory at f0400000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=16K]
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: r8169
	Kernel modules: r8169

02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Qualcomm Atheros QCA9565 / AR9565 Wireless Network Adapter [168c:0036] (rev 01)
	Subsystem: Dell QCA9565 / AR9565 Wireless Network Adapter [1028:020c]
	Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 19
	Memory at f0600000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512K]
	Expansion ROM at f0680000 [disabled] [size=64K]
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: ath9k
	Kernel modules: ath9k

03:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Venus PRO [Radeon HD 8850M / R9 M265X] [1002:6823] (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
	Subsystem: Dell Venus PRO [Radeon HD 8850M / R9 M265X] [1028:0609]
	Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 47
	Memory at d0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
	Memory at f0500000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256K]
	I/O ports at 3000 [size=256]
	Expansion ROM at f0540000 [disabled] [size=128K]
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: radeon
	Kernel modules: radeon, amdgpu

[elviolmp]

You are running Cinnamon using the MATE desktop? Those messages are about activating org.mate.panel.applets. I run the Cinnamon desktop and I have no mention of MATE applets in my syslogs.

Can you please give us information about your install by entering this command in a terminal:

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inxi -Fxxxrz

Enclose the results between [ⅽode] and [/ⅽode] code markers by selecting </> from the mini toolbar above the textbox where you type your reply. This will let us know how Mint sees your hardware.

Yes... I saw the MATE mentioned.... however, I think that this was installed by some app tha need some library from MATE.

Anyway... the result:

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elvio@note-elvio: ~ $ inxi -Fxxxrz
System:    Kernel: 5.4.0-47-generic x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 9.3.0 Desktop: Cinnamon 4.6.7 wm: muffin 4.6.3 
           dm: LightDM 1.30.0 Distro: Linux Mint 20 Ulyana base: Ubuntu 20.04 focal 
Machine:   Type: Portable System: Dell product: Latitude 3540 v: A14 serial: <filter> Chassis: type: 8 v: A14 serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: Dell model: 09HY4K v: A00 serial: <filter> UEFI: Dell v: A14 date: 08/28/2019 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT1 charge: 22.6 Wh condition: 22.6/66.6 Wh (34%) volts: 12.7/11.1 model: SANYO DELL 6HY5944H type: Li-ion 
           serial: <filter> status: Full 
CPU:       Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Core i7-4500U bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Haswell rev: 1 L2 cache: 4096 KiB 
           flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 19154 
           Speed: 798 MHz min/max: 800/3000 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 798 2: 798 3: 798 4: 798 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics vendor: Dell driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 
           chip ID: 8086:0a16 
           Device-2: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Venus PRO [Radeon HD 8850M / R9 M265X] vendor: Dell driver: radeon 
           v: kernel bus ID: 03:00.0 chip ID: 1002:6823 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.8 driver: ati,modesetting,radeon unloaded: fbdev,vesa 
           resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz, 1600x900~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 4400 (HSW GT2) v: 4.5 Mesa 20.0.8 compat-v: 3.0 direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel 8 Series HD Audio vendor: Dell driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1b.0 chip ID: 8086:9c20 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.4.0-47-generic 
Network:   Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet vendor: Dell driver: r8169 v: kernel port: 4000 
           bus ID: 01:00.0 chip ID: 10ec:8168 
           IF: enp1s0 state: down mac: <filter> 
           Device-2: Qualcomm Atheros QCA9565 / AR9565 Wireless Network Adapter vendor: Dell driver: ath9k v: kernel 
           port: 4000 bus ID: 02:00.0 chip ID: 168c:0036 
           IF: wlp2s0 state: up mac: <filter> 
           Device-3: Qualcomm Atheros type: USB driver: btusb bus ID: 1-1.5:7 chip ID: 0cf3:0036 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 223.57 GiB used: 70.57 GiB (31.6%) 
           ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Kingston model: SV300S37A240G size: 223.57 GiB speed: 6.0 Gb/s serial: <filter> rev: BBF0 
           scheme: GPT 
Partition: ID-1: / size: 133.21 GiB used: 67.85 GiB (50.9%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1 
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 8.00 GiB used: 369.2 MiB (4.5%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda2 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 54.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: radeon temp: 48 C 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 3100 
Repos:     No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/brave-browser-release.list 
           1: deb [arch=amd64] https://brave-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com/ stable main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list 
           1: deb [arch=amd64] http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/libreoffice-ppa-focal.list 
           1: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/libreoffice/ppa/ubuntu focal main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/official-package-repositories.list 
           1: deb http://mint-packages.c3sl.ufpr.br ulyana main upstream import backport
           2: deb http://sft.if.usp.br/ubuntu focal main restricted universe multiverse
           3: deb http://sft.if.usp.br/ubuntu focal-updates main restricted universe multiverse
           4: deb http://sft.if.usp.br/ubuntu focal-backports main restricted universe multiverse
           5: deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ focal-security main restricted universe multiverse
           6: deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ focal partner
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/opera-stable.list 
           1: deb https://deb.opera.com/opera-stable/ stable non-free #Opera Browser (final releases)
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/skype-stable.list 
           1: deb [arch=amd64] https://repo.skype.com/deb stable main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/teams.list 
           1: deb [arch=amd64] https://packages.microsoft.com/repos/ms-teams stable main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/teamviewer.list 
           1: deb http://linux.teamviewer.com/deb stable main
Info:      Processes: 295 Uptime: 5h 44m Memory: 7.69 GiB used: 4.46 GiB (58.0%) Init: systemd v: 245 runlevel: 5 Compilers: 
           gcc: 9.3.0 alt: 7/9 Shell: bash v: 5.0.17 running in: gnome-terminal inxi: 3.0.38 
elvio@note-elvio: ~ $ 

[SMG]

Yes... I saw the MATE mentioned.... however, I think that this was installed by some app tha need some library from MATE.

Do you know what app that might have been? That might be what is causing the issue.

What were some of the changes you made to your system before this error occurred?

You don't have an Nvidia card, so Nvidia is not the source of the problem.

[elviolmp]

In my home computer, occasionally occurs the same error , I found many MATE reference:

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elvio@pc-elvio-mint20:~$ sudo dpkg -l | grep -i MATE
ii  apg                                        2.2.3.dfsg.1-5                        amd64        Automated Password Generator - Standalone version
ii  gir1.2-matedesktop-2.0:amd64               1.24.0-2                              amd64        GObject introspection data for the libmate-desktop library
ii  gir1.2-matemenu-2.0:amd64                  1.24.0-linuxmint1                     amd64        GObject introspection data for the MATE menu specification
ii  gir1.2-matepanelapplet-4.0:amd64           1.24.0-2                              amd64        GObject introspection data for MATE panel
ii  libamd2:amd64                              1:5.7.1+dfsg-2                        amd64        approximate minimum degree ordering library for sparse matrices
ii  libcamd2:amd64                             1:5.7.1+dfsg-2                        amd64        symmetric approximate minimum degree library for sparse matrices
ii  libccolamd2:amd64                          1:5.7.1+dfsg-2                        amd64        constrained column approximate library for sparse matrices
ii  libcolamd2:amd64                           1:5.7.1+dfsg-2                        amd64        column approximate minimum degree ordering library for sparse matrices
ii  libmate-desktop-2-17:amd64                 1.24.0-2                              amd64        Library with common API for various MATE modules (library)
ii  libmate-menu2:amd64                        1.24.0-linuxmint1                     amd64        implementation of the freedesktop menu specification for MATE (library)
ii  libmate-panel-applet-4-1:amd64             1.24.0-2                              amd64        library for MATE Panel applets
ii  libmateweather-common                      1.24.0-1                              all          MateWeather shared library (common files)
ii  libmateweather1:amd64                      1.24.0-1                              amd64        MateWeather shared library
ii  libopts25:amd64                            1:5.18.16-3                           amd64        automated option processing library based on autogen
ii  mate-desktop                               1.24.0-2                              amd64        Library with common API for various MATE modules
ii  mate-desktop-common                        1.24.0-2                              all          Library with common API for various MATE modules (common files)
ii  mate-menus                                 1.24.0-linuxmint1                     all          implementation of the freedesktop menu specification for MATE
ii  mate-panel                                 1.24.0-2                              amd64        launcher and docking facility for MATE
ii  mate-panel-common                          1.24.0-2                              all          launcher and docking facility for MATE (common files)
ii  mate-polkit:amd64                          1.24.0-2                              amd64        MATE authentication agent for PolicyKit-1
ii  mate-polkit-common                         1.24.0-2                              amd64        MATE authentication agent for PolicyKit-1 (common files)
ii  mintmenu                                   6.1.1                                 all          Advanced MATE menu
elvio@pc-elvio-mint20:~$ 

I remember tha I hava installed applications like WPS Office, qBitTorrent, Conky, iriun (to use smarphone as webcam on PC) and Strawberry player, clamnAV (and some others tha I can't remember now).

[SMG]

Eventually my cinnamon just say:
"cinnamon just down" maybe a fail in extension, desklet or applet. Restart cinnamon?

I went back through the list you had in the first post. There are a number of deprecation warnings, so I'm thinking that some of the apps you are using are not in sync with the current specs Cinnamon is using.

Take notice of what you are running when this error comes up the next time. Or at least take notice of what time it is and then check the /var/log/syslog file at that time stamp to see what is happening. I don't have any ideas right now of what specifically might be causing this, so logs will probably be the best way to narrow down the possibilities unless someone else has ideas.

[MrEen]

I believe what's happening here is that Cinnamon is crashing, so it's falling back to the MATE components that are installed for this purpose.

This is beyond my ability to help troubleshoot, but should help in clearing up some of the confusion.

[SMG]

I believe what's happening here is that Cinnamon is crashing, so it's falling back to the MATE components that are installed for this purpose.

But I wouldn't think MATE wouldn't be using deprecated components, would it?

[MrEen]

I really don't know how that all works. But it all becomes moot when the Cinnamon crashing part gets fixed. And none of this is anything I have any experience in whatsoever.

[elviolmp]

Eventually my cinnamon just say:
"cinnamon just down" maybe a fail in extension, desklet or applet. Restart cinnamon?

I went back through the list you had in the first post. There are a number of deprecation warnings, so I'm thinking that some of the apps you are using are not in sync with the current specs Cinnamon is using.

Take notice of what you are running when this error comes up the next time. Or at least take notice of what time it is and then check the /var/log/syslog file at that time stamp to see what is happening. I don't have any ideas right now of what specifically might be causing this, so logs will probably be the best way to narrow down the possibilities unless someone else has ideas.

Sometimes, the failure occurred when entering the desktop, after entering the password, it seems that, when finishing the desktop display, something causes the error. Other times, while using the system, with the porgrmas I use, the error occurs even without having opened anything at that time.

I have made another clean installation in a second PC. After installation, I runned "dpkg" to list with "grep -i MATE", has listed tha same modules that I hava in my principals PC. Than, install all updates, drivers, google chrome, Brave Browser, TTF MS Core Fonts, so, list of MATE itens still the same.
I think that it's necessary packages for "cinnamon" D.E..

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elvio@elvio-G31M:~$ sudo dpkg -l | grep -i MATE
[sudo] senha para elvio:        
ii  apg                                        2.2.3.dfsg.1-5                      amd64        Automated Password Generator - Standalone version
ii  gir1.2-matedesktop-2.0:amd64               1.24.0-2                            amd64        GObject introspection data for the libmate-desktop library
ii  gir1.2-matemenu-2.0:amd64                  1.24.0-linuxmint1                   amd64        GObject introspection data for the MATE menu specification
ii  gir1.2-matepanelapplet-4.0:amd64           1.24.0-2                            amd64        GObject introspection data for MATE panel
ii  libcolamd2:amd64                           1:5.7.1+dfsg-2                      amd64        column approximate minimum degree ordering library for sparse matrices
ii  libmate-desktop-2-17:amd64                 1.24.0-2                            amd64        Library with common API for various MATE modules (library)
ii  libmate-menu2:amd64                        1.24.0-linuxmint1                   amd64        implementation of the freedesktop menu specification for MATE (library)
ii  libmate-panel-applet-4-1:amd64             1.24.0-2                            amd64        library for MATE Panel applets
ii  libmateweather-common                      1.24.0-1                            all          MateWeather shared library (common files)
ii  libmateweather1:amd64                      1.24.0-1                            amd64        MateWeather shared library
ii  mate-desktop                               1.24.0-2                            amd64        Library with common API for various MATE modules
ii  mate-desktop-common                        1.24.0-2                            all          Library with common API for various MATE modules (common files)
ii  mate-menus                                 1.24.0-linuxmint1                   all          implementation of the freedesktop menu specification for MATE
ii  mate-panel                                 1.24.0-2                            amd64        launcher and docking facility for MATE
ii  mate-panel-common                          1.24.0-2                            all          launcher and docking facility for MATE (common files)
ii  mate-polkit:amd64                          1.24.0-2                            amd64        MATE authentication agent for PolicyKit-1
ii  mate-polkit-common                         1.24.0-2                            amd64        MATE authentication agent for PolicyKit-1 (common files)
ii  mintmenu                                   6.1.1                               all          Advanced MATE menu
elvio@elvio-G31M:~$

Now, in the second PC, I will wait and observe if will occurs new errors.
I'm trying to install applet "cinnamon spices" too, but, they are migrating to a new server.

[elviolmp]

I believe what's happening here is that Cinnamon is crashing, so it's falling back to the MATE components that are installed for this purpose.

This is beyond my ability to help troubleshoot, but should help in clearing up some of the confusion.

Yes, I think too that this is the reason.

[SMG]

I have made another clean installation in a second PC. After installation, I runned "dpkg" to list with "grep -i MATE", has listed tha same modules that I hava in my principals PC. Than, install all updates, drivers, google chrome, Brave Browser, TTF MS Core Fonts, so, list of MATE itens still the same.
I think that it's necessary packages for "cinnamon" D.E..

I just checked my install and I have them also, so you and Mr Een are probably correct.

Now, in the second PC, I will wait and observe if will occurs new errors.
I'm trying to install applet "cinnamon spices" too, but, they are migrating to a new server.

I do not have this applet installed so I did a search. While results come up in the search engine, I can not see the source because the site is migrating. However, what did come up on the search results is:
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Applets : QRedshift : Cinnamon Spices
[Search domain cinnamon-spices.linuxmint.com/applets/view/313] https://cinnamon-spices.linuxmint.com/applets/view/313
Hi, really a fan fan of this applet, it truly is one of the most useful ones. But when I install this on Linux Mint 20, Cinnamon version 4.6.6, the Applet dialog box displays a message "This applet contains function calls that could potentially cause Cinnamon to crash or freeze".
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I am not familiar with the Cinnamon Spices and with the website down my ability to familiarize myself with them is limited, but it is possible that a spice is causing problems, especially if one has "function calls that could potentially cause Cinnamon to crash or freeze". Other spices might have that caution as well.

Cinnamon was updated to version 4.6.7 about a month ago. I do not know how often the Cinnamon Spices are updated.

[elviolmp]

Yes... Cinnamon = 4.6.7 (last)

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elvio@pc-elvio-mint20:~$ screenfetch
                                       elvio@pc-elvio-mint20
 MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMmds+.        OS: Linuxmint 20 ulyana
 MMm----::-://////////////oymNMd+`     Kernel: x86_64 Linux 5.4.0-47-generic
 MMd      /++                -sNMd:    Uptime: 7h 18m
 MMNso/`  dMM    `.::-. .-::.` .hMN:   Packages: 2798
 ddddMMh  dMM   :hNMNMNhNMNMNh: `NMm   Shell: bash
     NMm  dMM  .NMN/-+MMM+-/NMN` dMM   Resolution: 1920x1080
     NMm  dMM  -MMm  `MMM   dMM. dMM   DE: Cinnamon 4.6.7
     NMm  dMM  -MMm  `MMM   dMM. dMM   WM: Muffin
     NMm  dMM  .mmd  `mmm   yMM. dMM   WM Theme: Mint-Y-Dark-Blue (Mint-Y-Dark)
     NMm  dMM`  ..`   ...   ydm. dMM   GTK Theme: Mint-Y-Dark-Blue [GTK2/3]
     hMM- +MMd/-------...-:sdds  dMM   Icon Theme: Mint-Y-Dark-Blue
     -NMm- :hNMNNNmdddddddddy/`  dMM   Font: Ubuntu 10
      -dMNs-``-::::-------.``    dMM   Disk: 966G / 2,3T (42%)
       `/dMNmy+/:-------------:/yMMM   CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6-Core @ 12x 3.6GHz
          ./ydNMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM   GPU: GeForce GTX 1660
             \.MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM     RAM: 11478MiB / 32098MiB
                                      
elvio@pc-elvio-mint20:~$ 

[Morgan5444]

i want more details about this topic Cinnamon just down (or something like ).

[elviolmp]

I found a screenshot in English to better express this situation, at the link below:
https://i.imgur.com/Qu7yihn.png

This problem eventually occurs in any of the four pieces of equipment that I use. One PC and three notebooks.
So, I click Yes and the system restore all windows, menus, etc. For me it is not a big problem, but for my wife, who has no technical knowledge, it causes discomfort during her professional activities.

[SMG]

This problem eventually occurs in any of the four pieces of equipment that I use. One PC and three notebooks.

I suspect there is something in common which is installed on all those computers which is causing this to happen.

Are all of them still running LM20?

LM20.1 has a newer version of Cinnamon and muffin than what is in LM20, but I do not know if that would help since we do not know what applet/extension/file might be causing the issue.

[elviolmp]

Well... in this moment, all my computeres are running...

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System:    Kernel: 5.4.0-72-generic x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 9.3.0 Desktop: Cinnamon 4.8.6 wm: muffin 4.8.1 
           dm: LightDM 1.30.0 Distro: Linux Mint 20.1 Ulyssa base: Ubuntu 20.04 focal 

...or...

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 MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMmds+.        OS: Linuxmint 20.1 ulyssa
 MMm----::-://////////////oymNMd+`     Kernel: x86_64 Linux 5.4.0-72-generic
 MMd      /++                -sNMd:    Uptime: 3h 31m
 MMNso/`  dMM    `.::-. .-::.` .hMN:   Packages: 3268
 ddddMMh  dMM   :hNMNMNhNMNMNh: `NMm   Shell: bash
     NMm  dMM  .NMN/-+MMM+-/NMN` dMM   Resolution: 3840x1080
     NMm  dMM  -MMm  `MMM   dMM. dMM   DE: Cinnamon 4.8.6
     NMm  dMM  -MMm  `MMM   dMM. dMM   WM: Muffin
     NMm  dMM  .mmd  `mmm   yMM. dMM   WM Theme: Faded-Dream (Mint-Y-Dark)
     NMm  dMM`  ..`   ...   ydm. dMM   GTK Theme: Mint-Y-Dark-Blue [GTK2/3]
     hMM- +MMd/-------...-:sdds  dMM   Icon Theme: Mint-Y-Dark
     -NMm- :hNMNNNmdddddddddy/`  dMM   Font: Ubuntu 10
      -dMNs-``-::::-------.``    dMM   Disk: 1,1T / 2,3T (46%)
       `/dMNmy+/:-------------:/yMMM   CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6-Core @ 12x 3.6GHz
          ./ydNMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM   GPU: GeForce GTX 1660
             \.MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM     RAM: 7140MiB / 32097MiB

Applet: Spices Update - to monitor some installed themes;
Recently installed "Desktop Cube" extension, but, this occurs before installation as well.

[SMG]

The next time it happens, check the ~/.xsession-errors file. That is a hidden file in your home directory and is where Cinnamon messages and errors are written.