Mint won't boot after updates

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Mint won't boot after updates

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I just installed the updates including the new Cinnamon. Rebooted and all I get is a black screen. Tried recovery mode and got a black screen. How do I restore Mint so it will boot?

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Me too. Have tried the same as yourself and just sit a blank screen.
I have logged the issue on launchpad - out of interest what graphics card are you using.
My machine uses Intel, but I seem to recall something like 'Nvidia-current' appearing in the update manager.
I cannot help thinking this is part of the problem. My other machine uses Nvidia graphics and I just did not think about it.

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ATI 5800. This really sucks. I had a nice looking box. I never gave it a second thought, just like you.

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Re: Mint won't boot after updates

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Hi,

Remove nvidia-current and cinnamon:

apt remove --purge nvidia-current cinnamon

After this, you can do the following:

apt clean
apt update
apt install cinnamon

nvidia-current should not come as a dependency again.
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Re: Mint won't boot after updates

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clem wrote:Hi,

Remove nvidia-current and cinnamon:

apt remove --purge nvidia-current cinnamon

After this, you can do the following:

apt clean
apt update
apt install cinnamon

nvidia-current should not come as a dependency again.
Clem, I really appreciate the effort! Can you be a little more specific as to what I should do? All I get is a black screen at boot up and recovery. Do I use the Live CD - I think that is my only option.

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go to a console (ctrl+alt+F2), login and do as sudo like Clem said.
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Re: Mint won't boot after updates

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ej64 wrote:go to a console (ctrl+alt+F2), login and do as sudo like Clem said.
Using the Live CD? By the way, ctrl+alt+F2 does not work, which is why I asked!

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Using the Live CD? By the way, Ctrl+Alt+F2 does not work, which is why I asked!
Do you mean Ctrl+Alt_+F2 doesn't work from your blank screen, or from live CD? Try Ctrl+Alt+F3, and log in with your user name and password. Then follow Clem's commands, and finally Ctrl+Alt+F7 to get back to a GUI desktop.
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HughT wrote:
Using the Live CD? By the way, Ctrl+Alt+F2 does not work, which is why I asked!
Do you mean Ctrl+Alt_+F2 doesn't work from your blank screen, or from live CD? Try Ctrl+Alt+F3, and log in with your user name and password. Then follow Clem's commands, and finally Ctrl+Alt+F7 to get back to a GUI desktop.
None of the above work. I am dual booting Win 7 and Mint. I tried the option at boot after selecting Mint and get the following:

starting regular background processing daemon ok
starting deferred execution scheduler ok

And that is it. Recovery Mode does not work at all. What do I do to get a console? Is it even possible? Can the Live CD be of assistance? Please help!

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If the problem is that you aren't even booting Mint, try this from a liveCD

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sudo mount /dev/sda? /mnt
replace ? with the appropriate partition for Mint

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sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda
note - there's a gap between =/mnt and /dev, and no partition number after sda

then see if you can re-boot into Mint recovery. If you can then

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sudo update-grub
and finally follow the instructions to purge and re-install cinnamon.
Hope this helps
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I think these peoples issues is related what amd driver they had before update.
If they had gallium 0.4 openGL drivers, they desktops will go in Fallback mode after update. What can be recovered.
How ever, if they had some closed drivers, I think it cause this black screen when there is this nvidia driver also.

So, to get they stuff working again they would need to uninstal the nvidia drivers.
But they can't do that, because they can't even get into system to do it.
I think "Mint don't boot up", means after grub selection, all they get is black screen, nothing else happens.
it's like monitor never pick any screen resolution or they system just hangs in somewhere.
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Re: Mint won't boot after updates

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HughT wrote:If the problem is that you aren't even booting Mint, try this from a liveCD

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sudo mount /dev/sda? /mnt
replace ? with the appropriate partition for Mint

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sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda
note - there's a gap between =/mnt and /dev, and no partition number after sda

then see if you can re-boot into Mint recovery. If you can then

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sudo update-grub
and finally follow the instructions to purge and re-install cinnamon.
Hope this helps
Where exactly do I do this from in the Live CD? I am not at all familiar with it and can't quite figure it out. Thanks for all your help.

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chazdg24 wrote:Where exactly do I do this from in the Live CD? I am not at all familiar with it and can't quite figure it out. Thanks for all your help.
Basicly you boot live CD and then open terminal. It's black screen icon looking program in menu.
Hit those command there.

How ever, notice the ?-mark, that means you need to know what sda? is you / root partition.
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Re: Mint won't boot after updates

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Lumikki wrote:
chazdg24 wrote:Where exactly do I do this from in the Live CD? I am not at all familiar with it and can't quite figure it out. Thanks for all your help.
Basicly you boot live CD and then open terminal. It's black screen icon looking program in menu.
Hit those command there.

How ever, notice the ?-mark, that means you need to know what sda? is you / root partition.
Ya, and of course I don't! BTW, do I need to do this as root? I'm not clear how that works in the Live CD.

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chazdg24 wrote:Ya, and of course I don't! BTW, do I need to do this as root? I'm not clear how that works in the Live CD.
Sudo - command front of the actual command makes it as root, that's why first sudo command in terminal asks you password.
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I can't even get the Live CD to boot, all I get is a blue screen. I am lost.

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Oh dear blue screens aren't good. Forget the live CD for a moment. I was thinking: mmmm.. if the problem is with the nvidia graphics driver you won't see anything when booting into Mint. It's there and running - you just lack a screen. But surely Ctrl+Alt+F2 for a command line doesn't need the graphics card. Some keyboards have an Fn key which you must use to activate the F keys. So try Ctrl+Alt+Fn+F2, or Ctrl+Alt+shift+F2. Substitute F7 in place of F2 to get to a Cinnamon desktop again. If you can get to a command line, you'll see something like this:
Linux Mint 11 Katya HughT-DellXPS tty2
HughT-DellXPS log-in
So put in your name and password, and you'll see - HughT@HughT-XPST600 ~ $
Then

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sudo apt remove --purge nvidia-current cinnamon

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apt clean

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apt update

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apt install cinnamon
See if that works. If not post back again.
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chazdg24 wrote:I can't even get the Live CD to boot, all I get is a blue screen. I am lost.
I just downloaded a new version of Mint. The disk was bad so I was able to log into the Live CD. I checked Gparted to see which partition root is located in. There is an extented partition sda2 and sda5 is where the OS (I think) is located so I mounted sda5. Did I screw up? I tried to run the root directory = /mnt in Terminal and I received a list of options and a question as to whether the partition was mounted. Is root sda2?

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HughT wrote:Oh dear blue screens aren't good. Forget the live CD for a moment. I was thinking: mmmm.. if the problem is with the nvidia graphics driver you won't see anything when booting into Mint. It's there and running - you just lack a screen. But surely Ctrl+Alt+F2 for a command line doesn't need the graphics card. Some keyboards have an Fn key which you must use to activate the F keys. So try Ctrl+Alt+Fn+F2, or Ctrl+Alt+shift+F2. Substitute F7 in place of F2 to get to a Cinnamon desktop again. If you can get to a command line, you'll see something like this:
Linux Mint 11 Katya HughT-DellXPS tty2
HughT-DellXPS log-in
So put in your name and password, and you'll see - HughT@HughT-XPST600 ~ $
Then

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sudo apt remove --purge nvidia-current cinnamon

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apt clean

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apt update

Code: Select all

apt install cinnamon
See if that works. If not post back again.
I'll give it a try, after I take a little time before my head explodes. :wink:

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Re: Mint won't boot after updates

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Well, I have tried both options outlined above and neither option works. Black screens all around...

If anybody has any ideas I would be glad to try them. I suspect my system is hosed which really stinks as I had Cinnamon humming along with very few issues. You would never know it was still alpha software, that how good it was. :(

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