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fonts don't look good anymore - why?

Postby catch22 » Sat Jul 15, 2017 6:56 am

Since long I use a conky-file in Conky Manager that I adapted the way I like it; mainly for text / reminders of shortcuts and such.
The font was really nice, but since a long time ago this changed - if I recall well, it's since upgrading from Mint 17 Cinnamon to a higher 17 (at present I have 18.2 Cinnamon).

The font Ubuntu perhaps is not used anymore?
Or is there something else wrong with this file?
I have no clue where I can see which fonts are in use on the system.

Another thing is that in Conky Manager v2.4 selecting the file and clicking the pencil to "Edit file manually in a text editor" does nothing.
I have to go to the file in Nemo or in terminal to open it (no big deal, but not working correctly).

Here is the file in question:
https://pastebin.com/H6Tv7gWs
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Re: fonts don't look good anymore - why?

Postby richyrich » Sat Jul 15, 2017 8:30 am

If you open and login to Synaptic Package Manager, and use the Quick filter with the word "font", you can find all of the fonts available in Mint.
I see ttf-ubuntu-font-family , is this the fonts you are looking for ?

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Re: fonts don't look good anymore - why?

Postby catch22 » Sat Jul 15, 2017 12:20 pm

richyrich wrote:If you open and login to Synaptic Package Manager, and use the Quick filter with the word "font", you can find all of the fonts available in Mint.
I see ttf-ubuntu-font-family , is this the fonts you are looking for ?
It is not, because that one is installed already.
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Re: fonts don't look good anymore - why?

Postby catch22 » Sat Jul 15, 2017 1:04 pm

I should stress the fact that altering the font and its size in the text editor has no effect in how Conky shows the content - it remains unaltered.
Editing from within Conky Manager isn't working.
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Re: fonts don't look good anymore - why?

Postby trytip » Sat Jul 15, 2017 1:45 pm

double-click the edit button in conky manager

backup your .config/fontconfig/fonts.conf if you have one the replace it with this, reboot and then change hinting to slight or full. oust a snap here how your conky looks

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<?xml version='1.0'?>
<!DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM 'fonts.dtd'>
<fontconfig>
  <match target="font" >
    <edit mode="assign" name="autohint">  <bool>true</bool></edit>
    <edit mode="assign" name="hinting">   <bool>false</bool></edit>
    <edit mode="assign" name="lcdfilter"> <const>lcddefault</const></edit>
    <edit mode="assign" name="hintstyle"> <const>hintslight</const></edit>
    <edit mode="assign" name="antialias"> <bool>true</bool></edit>
    <edit mode="assign" name="rgba">      <const>rgb</const></edit>
  </match>

  <match target="font">
    <test name="pixelsize" qual="any" compare="more"><double>15</double></test>
    <edit mode="assign" name="lcdfilter"><const>lcdlight</const></edit>
    <edit mode="assign" name="hintstyle"><const>hintnone</const></edit>
  </match>

  <match target="font">
    <test name="weight" compare="more"><const>medium</const></test>
    <edit mode="assign" name="hintstyle"><const>hintnone</const></edit>
    <edit mode="assign" name="lcdfilter"><const>lcdlight</const></edit>
  </match>

<match target="font">
    <test name="slant"  compare="not_eq"><double>0</double></test>
    <edit mode="assign" name="hintstyle"><const>hintnone</const></edit>
    <edit mode="assign" name="lcdfilter"><const>lcdlight</const></edit>
  </match>

  <match target="font">
    <edit name="antialias" mode="assign"><bool>true</bool></edit>
    <edit name="hinting" mode="assign"><bool>true</bool></edit>
    <edit name="hintstyle" mode="assign"><const>hintfull</const></edit>
    <edit name="lcdfilter" mode="assign"><const>lcddefault</const></edit>
    <edit name="rgba" mode="assign"><const>rgb</const></edit>
  </match>

</fontconfig>

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Re: fonts don't look good anymore - why?

Postby catch22 » Sat Jul 15, 2017 3:15 pm

trytip wrote:double-click the edit button in conky manager

backup your .config/fontconfig/fonts.conf if you have one the replace it with this, reboot and then change hinting to slight or full. oust a snap here how your conky looks

Double-clicking doesn't do anything on the edit-button.
I always use single-click system anyway ;-)

I didn't have a .config/fontconfig/fonts.conf so I copied yours, but which hinting should I alter?

The ones I see (lines 6 and 33) are both boolean?

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6 <edit mode="assign" name="hinting">   <bool>false</bool></edit>
33  <edit name="hinting" mode="assign"><bool>true</bool></edit>
 

Here's how it looks at present - way too small to read comfortably and with a font that does not look great:
conky_wrong.png
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Re: fonts don't look good anymore - why?

Postby catch22 » Sun Jul 16, 2017 6:30 am

Meanwhile I have re-installed Conky Manager and it still does not open any of the files with the pencil icon to edit manually.
Also all files seem to show something when clicking Preview, except for the one I want to use.

If someone could get me on the way to sort out perhaps to use conky without the Conky Manager :?: , that could be helpful, because I don't need all those other available conky files - just the one I want.
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Re: fonts don't look good anymore - why?

Postby catch22 » Sun Jul 16, 2017 2:15 pm

Purged everything conky and tried backrolling to an older version 1.9 as suggested in another thread and as described here http://coreygoldberg.blogspot.be/2016/03/what-heck-happened-to-conky-im-rolling-back.html ..still not working properly..
This thread is starting to feel very odd btw - like talking to myself.. :?
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Re: fonts don't look good anymore - why?

Postby trytip » Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:27 pm

you don't alter anything from the .config/fontconfig/fonts.conf you create one if you don't have one and copy the code. then in appearance/fonts you select slight hinting or full

your conky is bad fonts because i believe you are not using antialias. probably it's in the concyrc why not post your conky here and did you doubleclick the edit button maybe your system won't open files that don't have extension? have no clue i use linux mint 17.3 with
you can edit your conky i the .conky folder

you doubleclick the EDIT button in conky manager

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Re: fonts don't look good anymore - why?

Postby CaptainKirksChair » Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:00 pm

I don't know about Conky but a troubleshooting tip is to create a new user account and then logon using it. See if the default settings for Conky with a new user don't have the same issues. If they do, then it's a system problem.

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Re: fonts don't look good anymore - why?

Postby catch22 » Fri Jul 21, 2017 7:54 am

trytip wrote:you don't alter anything from the .config/fontconfig/fonts.conf you create one if you don't have one and copy the code. then in appearance/fonts you select slight hinting or full

your conky is bad fonts because i believe you are not using antialias. probably it's in the concyrc why not post your conky here and did you doubleclick the edit button maybe your system won't open files that don't have extension? have no clue i use linux mint 17.3 with
you can edit your conky i the .conky folder

you doubleclick the EDIT button in conky manager

- appearance/fonts has been and still is "slight"
- antialias is set on "Rgba" (whatever that means I do not know)
- posted the conky pastebin here already in the very first post of this thread
- the edit button in conkymanager is no problem; it is the "edit file manually" button that does not work
- changing the conky manually in gvim (eg editing the font size) does nothing
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Re: fonts don't look good anymore - why?

Postby catch22 » Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:10 am

CaptainKirksChair wrote:I don't know about Conky but a troubleshooting tip is to create a new user account and then logon using it. See if the default settings for Conky with a new user don't have the same issues. If they do, then it's a system problem.

I tried another user and exactly the same is happening:
- in conkymanager the "edit file manually" button does not work
- changing the conky manually in gvim (editing font size) does nothing
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