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<SOLVED>Hey! is it ok to get answers if I can't get a homework done?

Post by kernkraftx » Thu Feb 25, 2016 9:01 pm

Hello everybody, I changed forums because well... I guess I was to green, but I was wondering if I can ask questions and sometimes get answers to my bash scripting because the way I learn is if I can't find the answer is copy and cut out and understand how everything works, then I understand... would it be ok to do that? or will it anger people like it did on another forum, if so, i'll stick to the frenchies then.. :( sorry if it ''may sound stupid to anyone") as a question, I do apologize again, I don't mean to be annoying, hopefully I am welcomed here, and yes I read the rules! (i'm a bit sensitive to criticism) :S.

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Re: Hey! is it ok to get answers if I can't get a homework done?

Post by Fred Barclay » Thu Feb 25, 2016 10:46 pm

Welcome,kernkraftx.

We're not exactly a homework forum, but if it's something we know how to help with I'm sure someone will step up.
That being said, make sure you have your teacher's permission to get online help first. ;)
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Re: Hey! is it ok to get answers if I can't get a homework done?

Post by Chiefahol » Thu Feb 25, 2016 11:32 pm

You probably should.

People don't read books until they find answers, that's a world that is dead and gone.

They use the internet to get the solution ASAP, even if it involves talking to random people online.

Posting your homework here is kind of like training for the real world. :lol:
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Re: Hey! is it ok to get answers if I can't get a homework done?

Post by Mute Ant » Fri Feb 26, 2016 12:04 am

While you're waiting, read the free novel we sent you. It's a Spanish story about a guy named "manual".

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Re: Hey! is it ok to get answers if I can't get a homework done?

Post by Reorx » Fri Feb 26, 2016 1:11 am

To quote George Takei -
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Re: Hey! is it ok to get answers if I can't get a homework done?

Post by kernkraftx » Fri Feb 26, 2016 1:24 pm

emmm yup, it is unfortunately.... well don't kill me with your comments tough.... I mean I can go back to the french one if it angrys you guys... :S
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Re: Hey! is it ok to get answers if I can't get a homework done?

Post by Moem » Fri Feb 26, 2016 1:34 pm

Honestly, that will mostly depend on your own attitude.

Still, this was a good remark:
Fred Barclay wrote:make sure you have your teacher's permission to get online help first. ;)
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Post by xdicey » Fri Feb 26, 2016 2:03 pm

:) Poor kid.
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Re: Hey! is it ok to get answers if I can't get a homework done?

Post by kernkraftx » Fri Feb 26, 2016 2:18 pm

Ya, I have only a positive attitude to learn! And teacher said is ok with using help online ( its continuing educaton admin program so intense) :D, thanks for the support! :D :mrgreen:
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Re: Hey! is it ok to get answers if I can't get a homework done?

Post by Fred Barclay » Fri Feb 26, 2016 2:28 pm

Well then, fire away! :D
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Re: <SOLVED>Hey! is it ok to get answers if I can't get a homework done?

Post by Habitual » Fri Feb 26, 2016 2:37 pm

LOTs of "answers" in http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions ... 175573159/ and the thread is marked as [SOLVED].

Another homework question or the same one?

If you don't understand the concepts, any answers will be a confusing ones.
Knowledge without application is memorization.
Knowledge by application is called Experience.

Have a look at Various Linux Guides I have collected

Don't be surprised if lots of folks point you to the web for explanations, that is where most of us learned them.

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Re: <SOLVED>Hey! is it ok to get answers if I can't get a homework done?

Post by kernkraftx » Fri Feb 26, 2016 3:33 pm

I don't want to go back there :(... But Habitual, that is how I learn, my math problems always had answers in the end of the book, then I would try and solve the problem until I had the right answer and in the process I learned, voila! I finally understood the problem, or found other ways to solve the problem, I have super good memory and thanks to it, this memory helps me rewrite the script and then understand what i'm I doing, ( don't punch me please :| ). But thanks for the guides they help :D.
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Re: <SOLVED>Hey! is it ok to get answers if I can't get a homework done?

Post by Habitual » Fri Feb 26, 2016 3:40 pm

Writing the script as you refer to it could be written and should be written as pseudo-code,
much like a recipe.

Short steps in English (or native French?) that explain the problem is oh-so-easy steps.
Think of pseudo-code as a "recipe".
However, if we had to learn how to mill flour each time we wanted to make Chocolate Chip cookies, we'd never have cookies. :)

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Re: <SOLVED>Hey! is it ok to get answers if I can't get a homework done?

Post by Mute Ant » Fri Feb 26, 2016 7:14 pm

My LMDE2 has nearly 200 working examples of scripted code, although the system uses sh not bash. You just soak-up what a program should look like when the same structure flies past over and over again.

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/bin/bzmore
/bin/bzdiff
/bin/setupcon
/bin/zless
/bin/zforce
/bin/unicode_start
/bin/zmore
/bin/bzgrep
/bin/zegrep
/bin/zgrep
/bin/fgrep
/bin/lesspipe
/bin/zcat
/bin/bzexe
/bin/egrep
/bin/znew
/bin/zcmp
/bin/which
/bin/gzexe
/bin/zdiff
/bin/gunzip
/bin/zfgrep
/bin/uncompress
/bin/red
/usr/bin/nroff
/usr/bin/ecryptfs-setup-swap
/usr/bin/ps2ascii
/usr/bin/os-prober
/usr/bin/lft.db
/usr/bin/mxtar
/usr/bin/sensible-browser
/usr/bin/catchsegv
/usr/bin/gslp
/usr/bin/gdbtui
/usr/bin/kde4
/usr/bin/zipgrep
/usr/bin/igawk
/usr/bin/qvlc
/usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-x11
/usr/bin/pdf2ps
/usr/bin/foo2hiperc-wrapper
/usr/bin/exifautotran
/usr/bin/mcheck
/usr/bin/dpkg-maintscript-helper
/usr/bin/gvfs-less
/usr/bin/install-printerdriver
/usr/bin/mintstick
/usr/bin/mate-services-admin-pkexec
/usr/bin/ps2epsi
/usr/bin/traceproto.db
/usr/bin/sensible-editor
/usr/bin/poff
/usr/bin/lodraw
/usr/bin/uz
/usr/bin/select-editor
/usr/bin/font2c
/usr/bin/wine-wrapper
/usr/bin/lspgpot
/usr/bin/localc
/usr/bin/mkfontdir
/usr/bin/torify
/usr/bin/foo2qpdl-wrapper
/usr/bin/openbox-session
/usr/bin/apt-key
/usr/bin/ps2pdf12
/usr/bin/linux-boot-prober
/usr/bin/ps2pdfwr
/usr/bin/gettextize
/usr/bin/synaptic-pkexec
/usr/bin/gsdj500
/usr/bin/ecryptfs-recover-private
/usr/bin/wftopfa
/usr/bin/sensible-pager
/usr/bin/rvlc
/usr/bin/mcomp
/usr/bin/mate-time-admin-pkexec
/usr/bin/savelog
/usr/bin/ecryptfs-umount-private
/usr/bin/im-launch
/usr/bin/ecryptfs-rewrite-file
/usr/bin/foo2zjs-pstops
/usr/bin/c99-gcc
/usr/bin/bashbug
/usr/bin/ps2pdf14
/usr/bin/rarian-sk-install
/usr/bin/lorder
/usr/bin/rarian-sk-get-extended-content-list
/usr/bin/update-mime-database
/usr/bin/ps2ps
/usr/bin/routef
/usr/bin/mate-wm
/usr/bin/apturl
/usr/bin/prezip
/usr/bin/gettext.sh
/usr/bin/xdg-open
/usr/bin/torsocks
/usr/bin/pf2afm
/usr/bin/padsp
/usr/bin/wajig
/usr/bin/dvipdf
/usr/bin/x11perfcomp
/usr/bin/unopkg
/usr/bin/xdg-icon-resource
/usr/bin/foo2xqx-wrapper
/usr/bin/pon
/usr/bin/gsdj
/usr/bin/gacutil
/usr/bin/rarian-sk-get-content-list
/usr/bin/precat
/usr/bin/ecryptfs-mount-private
/usr/bin/7z
/usr/bin/eps2eps
/usr/bin/xdg-mime
/usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-kde
/usr/bin/tgz
/usr/bin/ecryptfs-verify
/usr/bin/lobase
/usr/bin/ncurses5-config
/usr/bin/plog
/usr/bin/loweb
/usr/bin/m2300w-wrapper
/usr/bin/ecryptfs-setup-private
/usr/bin/ps2pdf13
/usr/bin/7zr
/usr/bin/foo2oak-wrapper
/usr/bin/user-setup
/usr/bin/perldoc
/usr/bin/mk_modmap
/usr/bin/xdg-desktop-icon
/usr/bin/wine
/usr/bin/printafm
/usr/bin/foo2hbpl2-wrapper
/usr/bin/printer-profile
/usr/bin/ncursesw5-config
/usr/bin/smbtar
/usr/bin/traceroute-nanog
/usr/bin/lowriter
/usr/bin/xdg-desktop-menu
/usr/bin/pfbtopfa
/usr/bin/unicode_stop
/usr/bin/rarian-sk-get-scripts
/usr/bin/xdg-user-dir
/usr/bin/nvlc
/usr/bin/gpg-zip
/usr/bin/intel_gpu_abrt
/usr/bin/routel
/usr/bin/amuFormat.sh
/usr/bin/dehtmldiff
/usr/bin/rstart
/usr/bin/foo2lava-wrapper
/usr/bin/xdg-screensaver
/usr/bin/ps2lexmark
/usr/bin/mate-network-admin-pkexec
/usr/bin/run-with-aspell
/usr/bin/rgrep
/usr/bin/ssh-copy-id
/usr/bin/grub-kbdcomp
/usr/bin/vorbistagedit
/usr/bin/svlc
/usr/bin/pdf2dsc
/usr/bin/mate-shares-admin-pkexec
/usr/bin/lomath
/usr/bin/scp-dbus-service
/usr/bin/gdb-add-index
/usr/bin/startcaja
/usr/bin/gslj
/usr/bin/lofromtemplate
/usr/bin/foo2hp2600-wrapper
/usr/bin/pphs
/usr/bin/system-config-printer-applet
/usr/bin/xdg-email
/usr/bin/ssh-argv0
/usr/bin/gsbj
/usr/bin/7za
/usr/bin/c89-gcc
/usr/bin/startx
/usr/bin/xdg-settings
/usr/bin/ps2ps2
/usr/bin/cvlc
/usr/bin/pm-is-supported
/usr/bin/gst-feedback-0.10
/usr/bin/rstartd
/usr/bin/neqn
/usr/bin/loimpress
/usr/bin/lsinitramfs
/usr/bin/ps2pdf
/usr/bin/ecryptfs-find
/usr/bin/foo2zjs-wrapper
/usr/bin/system-config-printer
/usr/bin/gsnd
/usr/bin/gcore
/usr/bin/loffice
/usr/bin/pdfopt
/usr/bin/ecryptfs-migrate-home
/usr/bin/preunzip
/usr/bin/foo2slx-wrapper
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Re: <SOLVED>Hey! is it ok to get answers if I can't get a homework done?

Post by kernkraftx » Sat Feb 27, 2016 12:54 am

May the force be with you habitual, thank you for the great suggestions!!!
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Re: Hey! is it ok to get answers if I can't get a homework done?

Post by killer de bug » Sun Feb 28, 2016 4:19 pm

Chiefahol wrote: People don't read books until they find answers, that's a world that is dead and gone.
I don't agree. I still take a huge pleasure to read good books. Especially the paper editions.
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Re: Hey! is it ok to get answers if I can't get a homework done?

Post by killer de bug » Sun Feb 28, 2016 4:38 pm

kernkraftx wrote:Ya, I have only a positive attitude to learn!
Well, until now and after reading the thread on the other forum, this is not the case.

Programming is easy: you type something, you run it, and you immediately see if the result is ok or not. Trial and error.
Go piece by piece. Display everything. Check every steps. Don't move to the next step until the current one is working.

Ah, and I almost forgot: no drama on this forum. Thanks. :wink:
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Re: <SOLVED>Hey! is it ok to get answers if I can't get a homework done?

Post by PcMojo » Sun Feb 28, 2016 6:08 pm

I've always found, especially with computers, it helps to hack around and figure things out more than having somebody just give you the answer. If you use IRC, you can get help in real time (Freenode has a few rooms for bash, linux, & general programming). You may want to tell them you are a student and that you don't want the answer, just hints & nudges in the right direction. When you figure it out, the concept seems to stick with you much longer, at least in my experience with programming. One good thing is that since bash & CLI are tied to Linux & FOSS, there are many free manuals & tutorials.


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Re: <SOLVED>Hey! is it ok to get answers if I can't get a homework done?

Post by ganamant » Tue Mar 01, 2016 3:58 am

Not exactly an answer to your post, but I suggest you get yourself a copy of Learning the Bash Shell, O'Reilly. Even an old edition will do, and you can find them used online for a few bucks.

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Re: <SOLVED>Hey! is it ok to get answers if I can't get a homework done?

Post by kernkraftx » Wed Mar 02, 2016 9:14 pm

what... there was no drama, everybody all of a sudden just threw everything at me when i'm a noob and needed really help (criticizm withouth understanding), anyway il go look at the french forums. But Thanks!
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