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Has Clem mentioned his Debian progress lately? Ubuntu seems to be getting buggier and buggier every release for me. It would sure be nice to see this Mint Debian happen!
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Re: Any new info?
Nothing official yet, although it has been vaguely hinted that there MAY be change coming. Nothing has been said as to what, when or how.. but I do believe that it's actively being discussed to bring us a better desktop experience. I'm sure if anything is changed it will not be small news. You will know about it from a post on the main Mint page or the blog.
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Out of curiosity, would a move away from Ubuntu mean a loss of programs specifically written for Ubuntu, or by being written for Ubuntu mean that they are actually written for Debian, and as such we would continue to be able to use them!?
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It probably will mean losing some Ubuntu programs from the repos as Ubuntu has drifted so far from Debian that not all Ubuntu software is compatible with Debian.
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As of late, several other Linux Distros have made the move from being based on Ubuntu to being based on Debian.cliste wrote:Out of curiosity, would a move away from Ubuntu mean a loss of programs specifically written for Ubuntu, or by being written for Ubuntu mean that they are actually written for Debian, and as such we would continue to be able to use them!?
Debian "Squeeze" is the current 'testing' branch of Debian ... Squeeze will be released as 'stable' before the end of this year.
As anyone that uses Debian knows, Debian 'stable' is just that ... rock solid stable - always.
Ubuntu was loosely based off Debians 'unstable' branch ... with Lucid 10.04 they moved to Debian 'testing'
Debian also, has the largest repositories in the Linux world ... "if you can't find it in the Debian Repros > you don't need it or it doesn't exist"
On my PC I have 3 Distros >> LinuxMint-9 Xfce, Debian 'testing' Xfce and Crunchbang Statler with Openbox ... all amd-64
I mainly use #!Crunchbang Statler ... Crunchbang was based on Ubuntu but just a few months ago, switched to a Debian Squeeze base.
While still listed as an Alpha release, Crunchbang is much more stable than most final versions of any distro.
And I have found the Debian base of Crunchbang to be faster and more responsive than Ubuntu ever was.
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Yeah, I like Crunchbang Statler a lot, too. And, in spite of the warning on the home page that it could make your computer go Crunch, Bang I find it more stable than, say Ubuntu Karmic or Lucid.
In addition. it is a light, very fast OS with an idling footprint of only 85-100 MB of ram usage. It is a great distro to revive older PCs and Notebooks.
Crunchbang Homepage http://crunchbanglinux.org/.
In addition. it is a light, very fast OS with an idling footprint of only 85-100 MB of ram usage. It is a great distro to revive older PCs and Notebooks.
Crunchbang Homepage http://crunchbanglinux.org/.
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the head developer made a lot of fair points in the interview, he posted a link around the 20th reply for the blog entry.
I'd be very interested in something from Mint that isn't based off Ubuntu.
I'd be very interested in something from Mint that isn't based off Ubuntu.
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There are no plans to ever move to Debian from Ubuntu.
However there is plans to create a Debian release.
The release of Linux Mint 9 took priority but clem wants to work more on a Debian release.
However there is plans to create a Debian release.
The release of Linux Mint 9 took priority but clem wants to work more on a Debian release.
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sorry, my bad wording, I meant "something" as in a different edition, not the entirety of Mint to use Debian
I can understand the pros and cons of using Debian instead of Ubuntu as a base and the other way round.
The priority of 9 is understandable, it was anticipated by many.
I can understand the pros and cons of using Debian instead of Ubuntu as a base and the other way round.
The priority of 9 is understandable, it was anticipated by many.
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well, there is something about this going on in the IRC, #pimpmymint channel, ikey is mainly sorta trying to make it (IT IS NOTHING NEAR A RELEASE!!) he is just playing a bit of it for himeslf. to see if its doable.
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Yea he is really working hard on it.gizmodo wrote:well, there is something about this going on in the IRC, #pimpmymint channel, ikey is mainly sorta trying to make it (IT IS NOTHING NEAR A RELEASE!!) he is just playing a bit of it for himeslf. to see if its doable.
I'm sure clem is also doing some work on it as well.
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I've been contemplating switching to an rolling release, so this is exciting news because I really like Mint and would want to stay with this distro.ikey wrote:Yesmintnoob wrote:Would a debian version be a rolling release?
BTW, are there major drawbacks to an RR distro, verse a fixed release one? I'm personally tired of doing fresh installs!
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I used sidux for 6 years in a development environment. The only time I had a show stopper, the workaround was to use vesa for about a week or so. The only annoyance I had was when kde4 hit the repos.
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Well I hope a debian version becomes a reality. It would be nice not to feel like having to upgrade every six months.
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I agree, it would really be nice to see a Debian version happen. There's certainly considerable interest.mintnoob wrote:Well I hope a debian version becomes a reality.
I'm imagining that it's quite an undertaking, but I really have no idea how much work is involved.
Of course, I'm happy with Mint as it is right now, so if it doesn't happen, I'll be okay with that, too. If/when I feel I really need it, Debian isn't all that difficult to install, anyway, and I suspect it'll get easier.
With either Ubuntu or Mint, I've been sticking with the LTS versions and avoiding that whole 6-month trip. It's a great way to go if it works for you; fortunately, it works great for me!mintnoob wrote:It would be nice not to feel like having to upgrade every six months.
But even aside from the LTS versions, I don't see any reason why someone should have to upgrade every six months. The end-of-life date for each non-LTS Ubuntu version is a year and a half after the release date (according to the tables at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases). That life-span should be good for Mint as well, right?
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There's no big reason unless a new version corrects an urgent need for your computer. It's more like a "feeling" you need to when you see everyone getting all exited about new releases and don't want to feel your computer will be missing out on the "latest & greatest".MALsPa wrote: But even aside from the LTS versions, I don't see any reason why someone should have to upgrade every six months. The end-of-life date for each non-LTS Ubuntu version is a year and a half after the release date (according to the tables at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases). That life-span should be good for Mint as well, right?
Since I'm using KDE and had to upgraded to the newer version of KDE at the time, I'd like to have KDE with the latest version of KDE installed instead of having to do an upgrade, even though I haven't had any problem. Like I said, it's just a feeling you're going to be left behind. Maybe I'm the only one who feels like this!
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Yep.mintnoob wrote:There's no big reason unless a new version corrects an urgent need for your computer.
Yeah, I hear ya. I think I simply got to a point where I don't care if I'm left behind! As long as everything is working, I'm fine, and if I can go a long time without upgrading or doing a new installation, that's even better. Which makes Debian Stable and Mepis quite nice for me.mintnoob wrote:Like I said, it's just a feeling you're going to be left behind. Maybe I'm the only one who feels like this!
If a Debian-based version of Mint gets put out there, it won't be based on Debian Stable, but personally I'd prefer that it was.
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Bother, then again it would be easy enough to get rid of GNOME and install KDE after the fact.ikey wrote:That'd be Gnome
As an aside, what would be required for me to become involved in assisting with this project?
Cheers.