LMDE BREAKAGES - tracking TESTING

[ods_bswr]

OK this now as info for all who also have an ATI card and perhaps a laptop similar to mine (HP 8460p) - I installed all the recommended updates yesterday EXCEPT for the ones listed below:

gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad
libgl1-mesa-dev
libgl1-mesa-dri
libgl1-mesa-glx
libglu1-mesa
mesa-common-dev
mesa-utils
xnest
xserver-common
xserver-xorg
xserver-xorg-core
xserver-xorg-input-all
xserver-xorg-video-all

... which might be too much, but the system is up and running now. I'm DEFINITELY NOT trying to remove any of those from my ignored packages list; I've got enough of setting the system up from scratch (did it 3 times in total before it worked).
gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad might work for you; it didn't break anything on my computer but it caused an update conflict or whatever; the update wouldn't install with it so out it went.

If you're not keen on having your system wrecked or perhaps have a proprietary ATI(=AMD) driver installed, I'd shun all the Xorg and Mesa updates from now on as long as possible. I don't care about the latest updates; I want a running system. gnome-utils either didn't want to be installed in the latest update package or it worked flawlessly (as far as I can see now), but I'd block that too if I see it now (see viking777's post above).

[zerozero]

EDIT I only though the Nvidia errors where fixed because the update "release note" state nochalantly that all errors in the update package 1 were fixed with package 2.

ods_bswr, by this sentence and a couple other on your prior posts, i assume you are running LMDE tracking latest and the issues you are having have nothing to do with this xserver/xorg mess but something else (when UP3 was frozen this broken xserver was not in latest);
so i think your problem lays elsewhere: ATI drivers, hardware issues, no idea, but just to be sure, can you provide us the output of

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inxi -r

[ods_bswr]

@zerozero

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[0]% inxi -r
Repos:     Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list
           deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian main upstream import
           deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest testing main contrib non-free
           deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free
           deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing main non-free

... I installed LMDE using the DVD you get when you hit the linux mint homepage -> Download -> Linux Mint Debian -> Gnome 64 bit.

[zerozero]

i though so, in that case, you better have a look at this http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=185&t=82346
- and although we are more than happy to help you, most of the issues discussed in this topic are not your war- here we are tracking testing (yeahh crazy us ), you are tracking latest, read more about it here http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=1781

[ghostdawg]

Ok, it seems I'm stuck with gnome-font-viewer, I can't seem to remove it and sometimes if I upgrade it may show it's not installed but it is. So for now I'll leave things like it is, until more Gnome 3 stuff comes in.

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$ sudo aptitude show gnome-font-viewer
Package: gnome-font-viewer               
New: yes
State: not installed
Version: 3.0.1-5
Priority: optional
Section: gnome
Maintainer: Debian GNOME Maintainers <pkg-gnome-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Uncompressed Size: 205 k
Depends: libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.12.4), libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6~), libcairo-gobject2 (>=
         1.10.0), libcairo2 (>= 1.2.4), libfontconfig1 (>= 2.8.0), libfreetype6
         (>= 2.2.1), libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 (>= 2.22.0), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.28.0),
         libgtk-3-0 (>= 3.0.3), libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.14.0), gnome-utils-common
         (>= 3.0), gnome-utils-common (< 3.1)
Breaks: capplets-data (< 1:3.0.0), gnome-control-center (< 1:3.0.0)
Replaces: capplets-data (< 1:3.0.0), gnome-control-center (< 1:3.0.0)
Description: font viewer for GNOME
 This program can preview fonts and create thumbnails for fonts.
Homepage: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeUtils

----------------------------------------------
 $ whereis gnome-font-viewer
gnome-font-viewer: /usr/bin/gnome-font-viewer

$ ls -l /usr/bin/gnome-font-viewer
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 22628 Feb 26  2011 /usr/bin/gnome-font-viewer

I did a aptitude autoclean command also.

Thnx.

[zerozero]

ghostdawg, i've been these last couple days trying to figure out what's going on with your system, you are having errors and issues noone else are having;
but for that, we need your help as well: what's the story of the install? what foreign repos you had enabled? PPA's? have you tried sid?

i'm sorry if this looks a bit rude to ask, it's not the intention, we all (well, almost all ) try this and that and mess with the system (it's a big part of the fun), but in order to give you here some assistance, we should know if this is one of those situations.

[ghostdawg]

I understand zerozero and appreciate the help. I've done nothing special or different. I've been running testing since I installed LMDE. When I would see some odd remove issues doing a full-upgrade, then I would run safe-upgrade instead. As you said earlier, I guess I shouldn't have ran the safe-upgrade and waited for full-upgrade to solve any issues first.

I have ran Debian testing before at times during my linux experience for a few years and I do know it can/will have breakage at times also.

Here is my sources.list file, the default other than adding virtualbox to it.

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deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian upstream import main
deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing main non-free

deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian squeeze contrib non-free

# deb-src http://mentors.debian.net/debian unstable main contrib non-free

Thnx.

[viking777]

Checkgmail has stopped working again (the usual please enter your username and passsword again trick). I am posting it here, but it is also affecting LMDE tracking incoming. I would normally blame google for changing something, but this time I can't because it works perfectly normally on Pclos.

I have tried the update and patch fix as mentioned here: http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... il#p470625 but that doesn't work either.

This is what is says if you run it from a terminal:

No location.replace found in HTML
Unable to find gmail_ik ... full message text won't work

Saved cookie: GALX
nWx9h0RQJ2c

Saved cookie: GAPS
1:bHCMb_uEewNU_vRc5fcPbDt0j9AZBg:zf-Hi_04migEiGis

Saved cookie: GAPS
1:HH1bn9bFsZxGl7KcB-AL88HsUkAhqg:3DlPxTmXY8dvYtXg

Error: 401 Unauthorised

Anybody else got this?

EDIT. I found a workround anyway. If you start it with

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checkgmail -no_cookies

It works (but not very well because the options to delete the mail etc. have now gone, the only option is 'open'). I don't know why it has changed since this morning though?

[xircon]

Working here, but I don't use the one from the repos, I downloaded mine off the net, but mine stopped working quite a while after yours broke last time, patched it and it worked again. PM me an email address and I will send you mine if you want.

[viking777]

Has LMDE got some master plan to black out all communication amongst its users?

Last night checkgmail failed (without being updated or otherwise interfered with in any way). This morning the dist-upgrade wants to remove Thunderbird

I am not going to do it of course, but this is getting a bit beyond the joke.

I haven't got time to investigate it right now but all Thunderbird users - beware.

EDIT. Correction I found the time. It is libenchant1c2a that wants to remove Thunderbird so that is another one to add to the ever growing list of held packages I guess

[Gerd50]

I don't know what it was, but somewhat told me a week ago to change from Thunderbird to Icedove and that was updated
today

[zerozero]

viking,
i believe you can safely let thunderbird go on the dist-upgrade, and reinstall it after (well i could here, but we never know), the incompatibility is with hunspell

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 Start-Date: 2011-10-18  11:27:25
Commandline: apt-get dist-upgrade
Install: hunspell-en-us:amd64 (20070829-4, automatic), libhunspell-1.3-0:amd64 (1.3.2-4, automatic)
Upgrade: libsmbclient:amd64 (3.5.11~dfsg-1, 3.5.11~dfsg-2), smbclient:amd64 (3.5.11~dfsg-1, 3.5.11~dfsg-2), libwbclient0:amd64 (3.5.11~dfsg-1, 3.5.11~dfsg-2), samba-common:amd64 (3.5.11~dfsg-1, 3.5.11~dfsg-2), simple-scan:amd64 (2.32.0.2-2, 3.2.0-1), libenchant1c2a:amd64 (1.6.0-3, 1.6.0-3+b1), mousetweaks:amd64 (2.30.2-1, 3.2.0-1), samba:amd64 (3.5.11~dfsg-1, 3.5.11~dfsg-2), libmission-control-plugins0:amd64 (5.9.0-1, 5.9.3-3), samba-common-bin:amd64 (3.5.11~dfsg-1, 3.5.11~dfsg-2), telepathy-mission-control-5:amd64 (5.9.0-1, 5.9.3-3)
Remove: thunderbird:amd64 (3.1.7-1linuxmint1)
End-Date: 2011-10-18  11:28:13

Start-Date: 2011-10-18  11:31:09
Commandline: /usr/sbin/synaptic
Install: thunderbird:amd64 (3.1.7-1linuxmint1)
Remove: hunspell-en-us:amd64 (20070829-4)
End-Date: 2011-10-18  11:31:14

[viking777]

i believe you can safely let thunderbird go on the dist-upgrade, and reinstall it after (well i could here, but we never know)

And what happened to all your saved emails, are they still there?
What about your account settings - did you have to redo them all or were they picked up automatically when you reinstalled?

[GeneC]

i believe you can safely let thunderbird go on the dist-upgrade, and reinstall it after (well i could here, but we never know)

And what happened to all your saved emails, are they still there?
What about your account settings - did you have to redo them all or were they picked up automatically when you reinstalled?

Viking

Yep. Everything is just like before. I just re-installed me-self

[viking777]

Yep. Everything is just like before. I just re-installed me-self

Thanks Gene. I might have a go myself when I get a decent enough internet connection.

On another topic the checkgmail problem does not affect Crunchbang either (debian based) so it is only affecting lmde. The last time this happened checkgmail failed on all four of my distros, but now, only the two lmde versions.

Edit. And they both have the same version number - 1.13+svn43.2

[viking777]

A bit of good news on the checkgmail front. I ran the patch file mentioned in my first post for about the fifth time this morning and amazingly checkgmail is now working again. I very much doubt it had anything to do with this mornings update:

2011-10-19 10:18:01
Commandline: apt-get dist-upgrade
Install: libv4lconvert0:amd64 (0.8.5-4, automatic), libsonic0:amd64 (0.1.17-1, automatic), pinentry-qt4:amd64 (0.8.1-1, automatic), libalkimia4:amd64 (4.3.1-1, automatic)
Upgrade: espeak:amd64 (1.45.04-1, 1.45.04-2), libmpfr4:amd64 (3.0.1-6, 3.1.0-2), libv4l-0:amd64 (0.8.5-3, 0.8.5-4), liblouis-data:amd64 (2.3.0-2, 2.3.0-3), opera:amd64 (11.51.1087, 11.52.1100), ttf-opensymbol:amd64 (2.4.3+LibO3.4.3-3, 2.4.3+LibO3.4.3-4), uno-libs3:amd64 (3.4.3-3, 3.4.3-4), espeak-data:amd64 (1.45.04-1, 1.45.04-2), debianutils:amd64 (4.0.2, 4.0.4), libespeak1:amd64 (1.45.04-1, 1.45.04-2), ure:amd64 (3.4.3-3, 3.4.3-4), libmjpegtools-2.0-0:amd64 (2.0.0-0.3, 2.0.0-0.4), lib32v4l-0:amd64 (0.8.5-3, 0.8.5-4), libvcdinfo0:amd64 (0.7.23-4+b2, 0.7.23-4.1), kmymoney-common:amd64 (4.5.3-2, 4.6.0-2-1), libusb-1.0-0:amd64 (1.0.8-5, 1.0.8-6), kmymoney:amd64 (4.5.3-2, 4.6.0-2-1), libmpc2:amd64 (0.9-3, 0.9-4)
End-Date: 2011-10-19 10:19:21

But anyway as mysteriously as it failed it has now fixed itself.

[xircon]

Problem with Lightdm update this morning:

On reboot -

Xsession: unable to launch "(null)" X session --- "(null)" not found; falling back to default session

Click OK everything boots up fine. Already reported as a bug.

[krushaaa]

hey guys,

got a little problem when opening a terminal:

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bash: /dev/cgroup/cpu/user/4452/tasks: No such file or directory
bash: /dev/cgroup/cpu/user/4452/notify_on_release: No such file or directory

comes up.

hope this is not a double post of an already known problem, if so feel free to delete. ^^

[zerozero]

krushaaa, please give us the output of

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uname -a

[xircon]

I get this as well, I thought it had something to do with the 'wonder kernel patch' (e.g. http://www.webupd8.org/2010/11/alternat ... patch.html)

I applied it but never got round to removing it for v3.xx kernel (which should have it????). This error is just cosmetic (to me) will try and fix it over the weekend and report back.