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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - tracking TESTING - updated 15 May

Post by zerozero » Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:05 pm

luis.nando,
i would recommend start reading from here on
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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - tracking TESTING - updated 15 May

Post by luis.nando » Tue Aug 28, 2012 1:00 pm

Thanks, worked perfectly.

zerozero, i find the boot time faster when using upstart, is there any way of pinning this package? Because every time i try to upgrade the system it installs sysvinit.

Thanks
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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - tracking TESTING - updated 15 May

Post by bithir » Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:55 am

Today:

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The following packages have been kept back:
  xfce4-xfapplet-plugin
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
Checking dependencies:

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The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 xfce4-xfapplet-plugin : Depends: libxfce4util6 (>= 4.9.0) but it is not installable
                         Depends: xfce4-panel (>= 4.9.2) but 4.8.6-3 is to be installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
So, it looks like the debian testing is preparing to merge in XFCE 4.9

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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - tracking TESTING - updated 15 May

Post by BostonPeng » Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:32 am

I have a question for the smarter folks around here (which is most of you): Is there a way to find changelogs for packages coming in from the Mint repos without running the Update Manager? Today I did my morning du and got this:

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The following packages will be upgraded:
  mintinstall mintmenu mintsystem usb-imagewriter
4 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
but when I fired up Synaptec to see what changed I get errors like this:

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This change is not coming from a source that supports changelogs.

Failed to fetch the changelog for mintinstall
URI was: http://packages.linuxmint.com/pool/incoming/m/mintinstall/mintinstall_7.3.9_all.changelog
I see that the Update Manager can get the changes but since I use Synaptic to check the changes on my other upgrades I'd rather not have to launch UM just to see what changed in packages from Mint/Debian/Testing.

ETA:
I got some errors when I upgraded mintinstall.

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Setting up mintinstall (7.3.9) ...
Error in file "/usr/share/applications/ggl-qt.desktop": "app/gg" is an invalid MIME type ("app" is an unregistered media type)
Warning in file "/usr/share/applications/caja-folder-handler.desktop": usage of MIME type "x-directory/mate-default-handler" is discouraged ("x-directory" is an old media type that should be replaced with a modern equivalent)
Warning in file "/usr/share/applications/caja-folder-handler.desktop": usage of MIME type "x-directory/normal" is discouraged ("x-directory" is an old media type that should be replaced with a modern equivalent)
This doesn't surprise me since Google Gadgets never has worked in LMDE + KDE but I'm wondering where I should post this to make sure the devs see it and can address it, especially since the errors were triggered when mintinstall was upgraded.
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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - tracking TESTING - updated 15 May

Post by zerozero » Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:13 pm

luis.nando wrote: zerozero, i find the boot time faster when using upstart, is there any way of pinning this package? Because every time i try to upgrade the system it installs sysvinit.
my experience with upstart is zero; i did now a quick test and got the same result as you

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zerozero@test ~ $ sudo apt-get install upstart
[sudo] password for zerozero: 
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
  libnih-dbus1 libnih1
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  sysvinit
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  libnih-dbus1 libnih1 upstart
WARNING: The following essential packages will be removed.
This should NOT be done unless you know exactly what you are doing!
  sysvinit
0 upgraded, 3 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 508 kB of archives.
After this operation, 901 kB of additional disk space will be used.
You are about to do something potentially harmful.
To continue type in the phrase 'Yes, do as I say!'
 ?] Yes, do as I say!
Get:1 http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest/ testing/main libnih1 amd64 1.0.3-4 [134 kB]
Get:2 http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest/ testing/main libnih-dbus1 amd64 1.0.3-4 [98.9 kB]
Get:3 http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest/ testing/main upstart amd64 0.6.6-2 [275 kB]
Fetched 508 kB in 12s (42.3 kB/s)                                              
dpkg: warning: overriding problem because --force enabled:
 This is an essential package - it should not be removed.
(Reading database ... 137855 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing sysvinit ...
Processing triggers for man-db ...
Selecting previously unselected package libnih1.
(Reading database ... 137829 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking libnih1 (from .../libnih1_1.0.3-4_amd64.deb) ...
Selecting previously unselected package libnih-dbus1.
Unpacking libnih-dbus1 (from .../libnih-dbus1_1.0.3-4_amd64.deb) ...
Selecting previously unselected package upstart.
Unpacking upstart (from .../upstart_0.6.6-2_amd64.deb) ...
Processing triggers for man-db ...
Setting up libnih1 (1.0.3-4) ...
Setting up libnih-dbus1 (1.0.3-4) ...
Setting up upstart (0.6.6-2) ...
zerozero@test ~ $ 
in the next boot upstart was to be removed and sysvinit to be installed;
searching the web doesn't show any kind of conclusive results about this but surely we are missing something (very obvious) here.
bithir wrote: So, it looks like the debian testing is preparing to merge in XFCE 4.9
this xfce4-xfapplet-plugin was one of the promises for the upcoming lmde updates; from your output it looks like it still has a way to go :o
BostonPeng wrote: but I'm wondering where I should post this to make sure the devs see it and can address it, especially since the errors were triggered when mintinstall was upgraded.
bug reports go here :)
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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - tracking TESTING - updated 15 May

Post by BostonPeng » Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:26 pm

Thanks ZZ, I guess I was too lazy to look for that, especially since I had seen that bugs get reported on LP several times in the years since I moved from Ubuntu to Mint, or maybe it's just a mental block that it's on Cannonical's site. :mrgreen:
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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - tracking TESTING - updated 15 May

Post by GeneBenson » Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:43 pm

luis.nando wrote:Thanks, worked perfectly.

zerozero, i find the boot time faster when using upstart, is there any way of pinning this package? Because every time i try to upgrade the system it installs sysvinit.

Thanks
Hi luis,

It's a know bug. Here are two links for you:
http://bugs.debian.org/525141
http://bugs.debian.org/561627

Basically, sudo aptitude dist-upgrade works correctly and will not reinstall sysvinit. sudo apt-get dist-upgrade wants to remove upstart and reinstall sysvinit.

Hope this helps. :wink:

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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - tracking TESTING - updated 15 May

Post by mockturtl » Sun Sep 16, 2012 2:01 pm

fglrx-driver just migrated... how's it working for you folks out there in ATI land?

(Note: 3000/4000/5000 series cards are now supported by fglrx-legacy-driver, currently in experimental.)

I see no mention of "fglrx" in the SID BREAKAGES thread since July... no news is good news?

It will be good to have some confirmation / feedback for UP5, I think.
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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - tracking TESTING - updated 15 May

Post by yoav » Thu Sep 20, 2012 10:36 am

Hi,
cinnamon break after the lastupdate.
i have no background image and the theme is not active

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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - tracking TESTING - updated 15 May

Post by Transitman » Thu Sep 20, 2012 1:11 pm

yoav wrote:Hi,
cinnamon break after the lastupdate.
i have no background image and the theme is not active
I installed Cinnamon 2 days ago, it updated to 1.6 and I've had no issues.
I now switch between Cinnamon, XFCE 4.10 and Mate. All are working well together.

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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - tracking TESTING - updated 15 May

Post by zerozero » Thu Sep 20, 2012 1:15 pm

yoav wrote:Hi,
cinnamon break after the lastupdate.
i have no background image and the theme is not active

tnx
can you give us some more info please :wink: open a terminal and copy&paste here the output of

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inxi -Sr

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apt policy cinnamon
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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - tracking TESTING - updated 15 May

Post by yoav » Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:41 pm

# inxi -Sr
Could not find the database of available applications, run update-command-not-found as root to fix this
inxi: command not found


# apt policy cinnamon
cinnamon:
Installed: 1.4.0-lmde2UP3
Candidate: 1.4.0-lmde2UP3
Version table:
*** 1.4.0-lmde2UP3 0
700 http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian/main amd64 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - tracking TESTING - updated 15 May

Post by zerozero » Thu Sep 20, 2012 6:16 pm

ok, we still don't know what we need :D

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lsb_release -a

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cat /etc/apt/sources.list
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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - tracking TESTING - updated 15 May

Post by yoav » Fri Sep 21, 2012 3:49 am

hi,
the same problem occured in gnome-shal mate working grate.
my disro was debian testing that i converted to LMDE few month ago.

$ cat /etc/apt/sources.list
deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian incoming main upstream import
deb-src http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian incoming main upstream import

deb http://mirror.rts-informatique.fr/linux ... /incoming/ testing main contrib non-free
deb-src http://mirror.rts-informatique.fr/linux ... /incoming/ testing main contrib non-free

deb http://mirror.rts-informatique.fr/linux ... /security/ testing/updates main contrib non-free
deb-src http://mirror.rts-informatique.fr/linux ... /security/ testing/updates main contrib non-free

deb http://mirror.rts-informatique.fr/linux ... ultimedia/ testing main non-free
deb-src http://mirror.rts-informatique.fr/linux ... ultimedia/ testing main non-free


$ lsb_release -a
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID: LinuxMint
Description: Linux Mint Debian Edition
Release: 1
Codename: debian

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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - tracking TESTING - updated 15 May

Post by kristhor » Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:57 am

Hi im running LMDE and did a dist-upgrade last night. For the first time since I installed months ago there were lots of packages for update.... over 500 MB. Total disaster!!! First of all the update crashes somewhere in the late install phase, which seemed to get fixed after reboot and " sudo dpkg --configure -a". Problems with pulseaudio, xorg, nvidia etc. I have no sound and most of the resolution options in nvidia-settings is gone. I have white text on whiteish background in text documents and applications. Ive been installing, upgrading and using linux mint for years and have never run in to such an upgrade disaster. Im not asking for help on this.... just reporting, im not even going to try to fix this. Its going in the bin, fresh install now. Only question is is it going to be debian again?

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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - tracking TESTING - updated 15 May

Post by zerozero » Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:37 am

yoav, you are using incoming (this is the topic for lmde tracking testing) you should report your issues here http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewforum.php?f=198 and we are more than delighted to help you there :D

kristhor, thanks for the report :wink:
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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - tracking TESTING - updated 15 May

Post by kristhor » Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:52 am

oops... sorry about that!

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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - tracking TESTING - updated 15 May

Post by yoav » Sat Sep 22, 2012 1:35 pm

hi
I Thought LMDE incoming is equal to testin...
so how i swich to LMDE testing? im used to debian testing, made the switch to LMDE a few month ago.


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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - tracking TESTING - updated 15 May

Post by killer de bug » Sat Sep 22, 2012 2:27 pm

If you want to follow "LMDE testing" this is the way to go :

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deb http://packages.linuxmint.com debian main upstream import incoming
deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/incoming testing main contrib non-free
deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/incoming/security testing/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/incoming/multimedia testing main non-free
You will have access to the UP when it reach incoming.

If you want to follow debian testing (the aim of this topic) then :

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deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian main upstream import

deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org testing main non-free
 
 # deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian main upstream import backport romeo
 # deb-src http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian main upstream import backport romeo
 
 # deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
 # deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
 
 # deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian experimental main contrib non-free
 # deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian experimental main contrib non-free
 
 # deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
 # deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
 
 # deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/incoming testing main contrib non-free
 # deb-src http://debian.linuxmint.com/incoming testing main contrib non-free
 
 # deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/incoming/security testing/updates main contrib non-free
 # deb-src http://debian.linuxmint.com/incoming/security testing/updates main contrib non-free
 # deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/incoming/multimedia testing main non-free
 
 # deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest testing main contrib non-free
 # deb-src http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest testing main contrib non-free

 # deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest/security testing/updates main contrib non-free
 # deb-src http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest/security testing/updates main contrib non-free
 # deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest/multimedia testing main non-free
This is given and well explain here by ZeroZero. You should read this post ;)
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.

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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - tracking TESTING - updated 15 May

Post by yoav » Sat Sep 22, 2012 3:51 pm

Thanks!

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