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Re: LMDE (Tracking SID, or other non-standard) BREAKAGES!

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:22 pm
by karashata
apt-listbugs lists a bug for libc6 that apparently causes the Shell to lock up when switching workspaces, something I never encountered since I only ever use one workspace. I did notice that the unstable libc packages break audio playback though, and for that reason I've been holding them back.

Re: LMDE (Tracking SID, or other non-standard) BREAKAGES!

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:29 pm
by Regulus74
karashata wrote: I've been holding them back.
How I do it? :oops:

Re: LMDE (Tracking SID, or other non-standard) BREAKAGES!

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:32 pm
by karashata
In Synaptic, you can select the libc packages all at once, then go to the Package menu and select "Lock Version".

I'm not sure how to pin packages from a terminal, perhaps someone else could explain that for you if necessary.

Re: LMDE (Tracking SID, or other non-standard) BREAKAGES!

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:43 pm
by GeneC
karashata wrote:In Synaptic, you can select the libc packages all at once, then go to the Package menu and select "Lock Version".

I'm not sure how to pin packages from a terminal, perhaps someone else could explain that for you if necessary.
Apt-pinning is not the easiest thing to set up, but if you use command line to update. I believe its the only way to hold packages back.
http://wiki.debian.org/AptPreferences

As karashata explained locking the version in synaptic is the easiest way. But be aware that if you later switch to the command line to update-upgrade all packages will upgrade (if not apt pinned).

I also like using synaptic.

Re: LMDE (Tracking SID, or other non-standard) BREAKAGES!

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:59 pm
by zerozero
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debia ... asics.html
7.12 How do I put a package on hold?

There are three ways of holding back packages, with dpkg, aptitude or with dselect.

With dpkg, you have to export the list of package selections, with:

dpkg --get-selections \* > selections.txt

Then edit the resulting file selections.txt, change the line containing the package you wish to hold, e.g. libc6, from this:

libc6 install

to this:

libc6 hold

Save the file, and reload it into dpkg database with:

dpkg --set-selections < selections.txt

With aptitude, you can hold a package using

aptitude hold package_name

and remove the hold with

aptitude unhold package_name

With dselect, you have to enter the elect screen, find the package you wish to hold in its present state, and press the `=' key (or `H'). The changes will go live immediately after you exit the elect screen.

Re: LMDE (Tracking SID, or other non-standard) BREAKAGES!

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:05 pm
by Regulus74
gcp wrote:.
libc6:amd64 (2.13-21)
libc6-dev:amd64 (2.13-21)
libc6-i386:amd64 (2.13-21) if you use this
libc-bin:amd64 (2.13-21)
libc-dev-bin:amd64 (2.13-21)
locales:amd64 (2.13-21)
multiarch-support:amd64 (2.13-21)
I downgraded this packages and now everything works!!! :D

P.S. Maybe it is better to report bugs of libc6 on the first page.

Re: LMDE (Tracking SID, or other non-standard) BREAKAGES!

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:24 pm
by Gerd50
To hold packages back i use this commands in a root terminal:

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echo <packagename> "hold" | dpkg --set-selections
or for more than one package

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dpkg --set-selections << EOF
<packagename1> hold
<packagename2> hold
<packagename3> hold
<packagename4> hold
EOF
If there are packages in a update noted as new install, the command works too if the pks are not wanted. It is ineffectively
after a reboot then.

The libc stuff only seems to be buggy as 64bit pks. No problem with it on my 32bit system.

Re: LMDE (Tracking SID, or other non-standard) BREAKAGES!

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:29 pm
by GregE
I am using 2.13.22 and apart from a couple of minor Chrome freezes when playing flash my system is working as it should. Mine is AMD64 with Nvidia drivers (DKMS). I have not touched Pulse.

Even the Chrome freezes seem to have gone since yesterday. I have had a few updates in the last 24 hours and i have had no Chrome issues since.

There are a lot of possible combinations of hardware, drivers and software, maybe I am just lucky.

:)

Re: LMDE (Tracking SID, or other non-standard) BREAKAGES!

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:53 pm
by michaelzap
GregE wrote:I am using 2.13.22 and apart from a couple of minor Chrome freezes when playing flash my system is working as it should. Mine is AMD64 with Nvidia drivers (DKMS). I have not touched Pulse.

Even the Chrome freezes seem to have gone since yesterday. I have had a few updates in the last 24 hours and i have had no Chrome issues since.

There are a lot of possible combinations of hardware, drivers and software, maybe I am just lucky.

:)
I was having major Chrome freezes this morning, but after updating whatever sid offered (which wasn't much, but included a libdrm package that hasn't fixed the video crashing problem for me yet) Chrome is working well for me again.

I'm also running a 64-bit system (with Intel chipset) tracking sid, and I'm not having any audio or Flash player problems.

Re: LMDE (Tracking SID, or other non-standard) BREAKAGES!

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:05 pm
by GeneC
I am similar to Greg and Michael(except for his video crashing).
Fully updated .
Updated libc6 last Sunday
Commit Log for Sun Dec 11 07:22:36 2011

Upgraded the following packages:
cpp-4.6 (4.6.2-6) to 4.6.2-7
g++-4.6 (4.6.2-6) to 4.6.2-7
gcc-4.6 (4.6.2-6) to 4.6.2-7
gcc-4.6-base (4.6.2-6) to 4.6.2-7
gimp (2.6.11-6) to 2.6.11-7
gimp-data (2.6.11-6) to 2.6.11-7
gir1.2-totem-plparser-1.0 (2.32.6-1) to 2.32.6-2
libc-bin (2.13-21) to 2.13-22
libc-dev-bin (2.13-21) to 2.13-22
libc6 (2.13-21) to 2.13-22
libc6-dev (2.13-21) to 2.13-22
libgcc1 (1:4.6.2-6) to 1:4.6.2-7
No problems with audio, video, chrome. No Gnome 3.2 shell problems (workplaces lockups).

Re: LMDE (Tracking SID, or other non-standard) BREAKAGES!

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:55 pm
by craigevil
Today's upgrades here:

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 The following NEW packages will be installed:
  libegl1-mesa libgbm1 libxcb-xfixes0
The following packages will be upgraded:
  acpi-fakekey acpi-support acpi-support-base ffmpeg google-chrome-stable google-musicmanager-beta libavcodec53
  libavdevice53 libavfilter2 libavformat53 libavutil51 libdrm-intel1 libdrm-nouveau1a libdrm-radeon1 libdrm2
  libio-socket-ssl-perl libpostproc51 libservlet2.5-java libswresample0 libswscale2 libtidy-0.99-0 mencoder mplayer
  python-gobject-2
24 upgraded, 3 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
No issues with Chrome, sound, or anything else, in KDE 4.7.2.

Re: LMDE (Tracking SID, or other non-standard) BREAKAGES!

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 7:04 am
by xircon
This morning's update completely trashed my system, think it is a problem with sysv. Back to clone 5/12/2011 (because I have not been well, haven't backed up regularly - oops :)), updating now, will report back.

Still got gastroenteritis :( Waiting for the results back from the sample I gave euuurrrrrrghhhhh :)

Re: LMDE (Tracking SID, or other non-standard) BREAKAGES!

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:22 am
by wayne128
just for checking only, Not yet d-u after reading steve's post above.
dont know which one is offending..

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Calculating upgrade... Done
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  python-gi-cairo
The following packages will be upgraded:
  acpi-support-base cpp curl g++ gcc gir1.2-vte-2.90 glchess glines gnect
  gnibbles gnobots2 gnome-games gnome-games-data gnome-sudoku gnomine
  gnotravex gnotski gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gtali iagno libarchive1 libc-bin
  libc-dev-bin libc6 libc6-dev libc6-i686 libcurl3 libcurl3-gnutls
  libdrm-intel1 libdrm-nouveau1a libdrm-radeon1 libdrm2 libgl1-mesa-dev
  libgl1-mesa-dri libgl1-mesa-glx libglapi-mesa libglu1-mesa
  libio-socket-ssl-perl libservlet2.5-java libvte-2.90-9 libvte-2.90-common
  libvte-common libvte9 locales mahjongg mesa-common-dev multiarch-support
  python-gobject-2 python-vte quadrapassel unattended-upgrades xdg-utils
  xserver-xorg-input-synaptics xserver-xorg-video-ati
  xserver-xorg-video-radeon
55 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 89.7 MB/92.2 MB of archives.
After this operation, 64.5 kB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? n
Abort.

Re: LMDE (Tracking SID, or other non-standard) BREAKAGES!

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:52 am
by xircon

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 sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  alacarte apt-file apt-xapian-index aptitude apturl apturl-common autokey-gtk awn-applets-python-core awn-applets-python-extras awn-mintmenu   awn-settings cardapio cardapio-awn cardapio-docky cardapio-gnomepanel cardapio-gnomeshell command-not-found deskbar-applet dockbarx   galternatives gdebi gdebi-core gimp gnome-about gnome-core gnome-packagekit gtk-recordmydesktop guake gufw gwibber gwibber-service gwibber-service-facebook gwibber-service-identica gwibber-service-twitter libapt-pkg-perl libept1 live-usb-install mailnag mate-applets mate-control-center mate-core mate-menus mate-panel mate-screensaver mate-session-manager mate-text-editor mint-common mintbackup mintdesktop mintmenu mintnanny mintsystem mintupdate mintupload mintwelcome mintwifi nautilus-dropbox ndisgtk packagekit packagekit-backend-aptcc packagekit-dbg polly pysdm python-apt python-awn python-bugbuddy python-evolution python-glade2 python-gmenu python-gnome2 python-gnomeapplet python-gnomedesktop python-gnomekeyring python-gtk2 python-gtksourceview2 python-gtkspell python-keybinder python-mate python-notify python-packagekit-gtk python-pyatspi python-rsvg python-sexy python-software-properties python-vte python-webkit python-wnck python3-apt rhythmbox-plugins screenlets screenlets-doc software-properties-gtk synaptic system-config-printer unattended-upgrades wajig webilder
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  libapt-inst1.4
The following packages have been kept back:
  docky xserver-xorg-video-fbdev xserver-xorg-video-r128
The following packages will be upgraded:
  apt apt-utils gnome-screensaver libc-bin libc-dev-bin libc6 libc6-dev libc6-i386 libdrm-dev libdrm-intel1 libdrm-nouveau1a libdrm-radeon1
  libdrm2 libkms1 mplayer multiarch-support python-numpy sysv-rc sysvinit sysvinit-utils
20 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 97 to remove and 3 not upgraded.
Need to get 26.6 MB of archives.
After this operation, 212 MB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? n
Think it was sysv-rc sysvinit sysvinit-utils because of the speed I was dumped to a prompt. Python-numpy is the reason so many things want to get removed.

Re: LMDE (Tracking SID, or other non-standard) BREAKAGES!

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:10 am
by BostonPeng
gcp wrote:.
Lockup of single Windows or the complete Desktop
Totem or sushi fail to play Sound
generic strange behavior of your Desktop etc. etc.



After 3 very annoying days i decided to downgrade the following 7 packages
from sid to the testing repository:

libc6:amd64 (2.13-21)
libc6-dev:amd64 (2.13-21)
libc6-i386:amd64 (2.13-21) if you use this
libc-bin:amd64 (2.13-21)
libc-dev-bin:amd64 (2.13-21)
locales:amd64 (2.13-21)
multiarch-support:amd64 (2.13-21)

This FIXED the problem for me!
In the 2.13-22 Version of these Packages (in SID) must be a big Bug.


HOWTO at your own risk:
make a new empty folder.
download ALL the 7 packages manually into this folder
from http://packages.debian.org/search?searc ... ords=libc6
choose the version 2.13-21 from wheezy (testing) and take care of amd64 or i386.
open a terminal and go to the folder
execute: sudo dpkg -i *.deb
now the packages will be downgraded
reboot... :lol:

i have no dependency problems after this action.
its a good idea to pin these packages after success and wait for better days.
i wonder why the aptosid guys seem not to have this problem.

have fun! :D
I had to add libc-dev-bin to your list before I could install the downgraded libc-bin. I also went into both Synaptic and MintUpdater to ignore updates to those packages.

Can anyone tell me if a relog is needed to start using the downgraded packages?

Re: LMDE (Tracking SID, or other non-standard) BREAKAGES!

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:12 am
by GeneC
Full Du
No problems here (Gnome-64bit)

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Start-Date: 2011-12-14  06:59:03
Commandline: /usr/sbin/synaptic
Upgrade: libswscale2:amd64 (0.9-0.1, 0.9-0.2), libc-bin:amd64 (2.13-22, 2.13-23), libavutil51:amd64 (0.9-0.1, 0.9-0.2), libgcj-bc:amd64 (4.6.2-1, 4.6.2-2), acpi-support-base:amd64 (0.138-9, 0.138-10), libdrm-radeon1:amd64 (2.4.28-1, 2.4.29-1), mplayer:amd64 (1.0~rc4+svn20111203-0.2, 1.0~rc4+svn20111213-0.0), g++:amd64 (4.6.2-1, 4.6.2-2), libavcodec53:amd64 (0.9-0.1, 0.9-0.2), libdrm2:amd64 (2.4.28-1, 2.4.29-1), locales:amd64 (2.13-22, 2.13-23), cpp:amd64 (4.6.2-1, 4.6.2-2), gcc:amd64 (4.6.2-1, 4.6.2-2), libcurl3:amd64 (7.23.1-2, 7.23.1-3), multiarch-support:amd64 (2.13-22, 2.13-23), libcurl3-nss:amd64 (7.23.1-2, 7.23.1-3), libdrm-nouveau1a:amd64 (2.4.28-1, 2.4.29-1), libdrm-intel1:amd64 (2.4.28-1, 2.4.29-1), libpostproc51:amd64 (0.9-0.1, 0.9-0.2), curl:amd64 (7.23.1-2, 7.23.1-3), libavformat53:amd64 (0.9-0.1, 0.9-0.2), libc6-dev:amd64 (2.13-22, 2.13-23), libcurl3-gnutls:amd64 (7.23.1-2, 7.23.1-3), libgcj-common:amd64 (4.4.6-4, 4.4.6-5), libc-dev-bin:amd64 (2.13-22, 2.13-23), libc6:amd64 (2.13-22, 2.13-23)
End-Date: 2011-12-14  07:00:15

Re: LMDE (Tracking SID, or other non-standard) BREAKAGES!

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 3:17 pm
by Regulus74
With libc6 2.13-23 It's all ok!!! :D

Re: LMDE (Tracking SID, or other non-standard) BREAKAGES!

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 3:34 pm
by karashata
apt-listbugs lists a critical bug for sysvinit causing the system to break on reboot, so I guess I'm holding sysv packages back today.

There also appear to be newer libc packages in this batch, hopefully these have fixed the issues present in the last version.

Re: LMDE (Tracking SID, or other non-standard) BREAKAGES!

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:11 pm
by xircon
Confirmed libc problem fixed. SysV problem - reported that earlier, tried again still crashes and burns.

Re: LMDE (Tracking SID, or other non-standard) BREAKAGES!

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:45 pm
by wyrdoak
I think I found the right fit for my machine and it's operator. :lol: LMDE_Xfce everything seems to click together quit well. I'm even gotten bored running in SID.

Still too shell shocked to give Gnome 3 another try. I think I'll stay here and be bored for awhile. :lol: