LMDE Gnome 3 - adding MATE

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GeneC

Re: LMDE Gnome 3 - adding MATE

Post by GeneC »

Hey "ZZ"

Welcome aboard! :)

About CPU usage. I also had been about 50% with Compiz(as seen above). But today is at around 15%? I had switched to 'Mint-Z-Mate' theme (as suggested by Clems' blog post) and it did reduce CPU usage. Oddly when I switched back to 'Ambience' theme where I had been getting 50%, it still at 15%. Not sure why that is, but glad to see it.
zerozero

Re: LMDE Gnome 3 - adding MATE

Post by zerozero »

GeneC wrote: Welcome aboard! :)
:) thank you, and it's good to be back online and with my box after these days 8)

about compiz/MATE i never did use it a lot in the old gnome2.x, so is not a biggy for me, but i understand it can be for some; (but i was using minty-freshness, so it can explain the high cpu usage, have to try with Mint-Z-Mate to see if it makes a difference)

one thing i did noticed is that following Steve's advise to create a new user helps a lot;

/back tonight to play a bit more :P
GeneC

Re: LMDE Gnome 3 - adding MATE

Post by GeneC »

10 days from my initial Mate install, and all is still working fine.
High CPU usage (the main problem) now seems more under control.
Using Ambience theme getting about 15% cpu usage, higher than the 3% from Gnome shell, but much better than the 50% usage at first install.

Little bugs
1. Weather applet is supposed to be avialable
Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork
by perberos on Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:50 am

kleeman wrote:
One thing I am missing in Mint MATE is the panel applets Invest and Weather. Go you know what their status is in MATE?

Weather applet is on mate-applet.
Invest applet is on mate-applet too, but it do not work.
I have mate-applet installed by no sign of weather applet?

2. Quite long boot times from login to usable desktop? (I have many start-up apps that I don't use turned off ).

In all, quite nice. :)
Good work 'stefano-k'
stefano-k

Re: LMDE Gnome 3 - adding MATE

Post by stefano-k »

GeneC wrote:Good work 'stefano-k'
:)
GeneC wrote:I have mate-applet installed by no sign of weather applet?
I will check this.

I'm rebuilding all packages with the upcoming 1.1.0 MATE release. I think many bugs are solved in this release.
GeneC

Re: LMDE Gnome 3 - adding MATE

Post by GeneC »

Thanks Stefano.
Looking forward to the updates.
GeneC

Re: LMDE Gnome 3 - adding MATE

Post by GeneC »

Booted up this morning to find MATE completely un-installed from my system?
I have no idea what happened. I did nothing that i know of to have cause this.

Residual config from synaptic.
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Re-installing 'Mate-core'.

EDIT:
Everything is back to normal. :?: :shock:

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Commit Log for Wed Dec 14 07:06:39 2011


Installed the following packages:
engrampa (1.0.3-3)
engrampa-common (1.0.3-3)
eom (1.0.0-3)
eom-common (1.0.0-3)
ffmpegthumbnailer (2.0.7-2)
ffmpegthumbnailer-caja (0.3)
libffmpegthumbnailer4 (2.0.7-2)
libgladeui-1-9 (3.6.7-2+b1)
libmatekbd (1.0.0-2)
libmatepanelapplet (1.0.9-1)
libmateweather (1.0.0-3)
libtasn1-3-bin (2.11-1)
mate-applets (1.0.6-1)
mate-backgrounds (1.0.0-2)
mate-control-center (1.0.0-4)
mate-core (1.0.0)
mate-desktop (1.0.3-1)
mate-image-viewer (1.0.0-3)
mate-keyring (1.0.4-2)
mate-media (1.0.5-1)
mate-panel (1.0.9-1)
mate-panel-common (1.0.9-1)
mate-power-manager (1.0.3-2)
mate-screensaver (1.0.0-1)
mate-session-manager (1.0.0-3)
mate-settings-daemon (1.0.0-3)
mate-system-monitor (1.0.2-1)
mate-terminal (1.0.0-1)
mate-text-editor (1.0.1-1)
mate-themes (1.0.0-3)
mate-window-manager (1.0.9-1)
EDIT 2:
I did nothing that i know of to have cause this.

Ah! the joys of 'senility' :lol: :oops:

OK. It was something I did yesterday. I had uninstalled mate-keyring (in an effort to stop mate asking for password--unsafe storage did not work). Mate-keyring uninstalled mate-core, which I thought was just a 'meta-package'. It also un-installed everything 'mate', my error.
Last edited by GeneC on Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:22 am, edited 2 times in total.
wayne128

Re: LMDE Gnome 3 - adding MATE

Post by wayne128 »

GeneC wrote:Booted up this morning to find MATE completely un-installed from my system?
I have no idea what happened. I did nothing that i know of to have cause this.


Everything is back to normal. :?: :shock:
:lol: the joy of playing with alpha?

my old comps ( this one ) with LMDE-less mintmenu+Mate-gnome-shell
still runs well with Mate.. kind of snappy..
considering this one is built in 2003,

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lmde32g wayne # lscpu
Architecture:          i686
CPU op-mode(s):        32-bit
Byte Order:            Little Endian
CPU(s):                1
On-line CPU(s) list:   0
Thread(s) per core:    1
Core(s) per socket:    1
Socket(s):             1
Vendor ID:             GenuineIntel
CPU family:            15
Model:                 2
Stepping:              7
CPU MHz:               2399.551
BogoMIPS:              4799.10
stefano-k

Re: LMDE Gnome 3 - adding MATE

Post by stefano-k »

I'm uploading new 1.1 MATE packages into tridex.net repository. When complete, debian and LMDE users need to change the row in sources.list (wheezy instead of sid):

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 deb http://tridex.net/repo/debian/ wheezy main 
You need to make this change when you will have 404 Error during apt-get update.
GeneC

Re: LMDE Gnome 3 - adding MATE

Post by GeneC »

Thanks Stefano. :wink:

I just added the new repo. Its not functional yet, so everyone keep using the old one for now.
I will post when I find stuff in it

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deb http://tridex.net/repo/debian/ wheezy main
The new 'tridex wheezy' repo
http://mate.karapetsas.com/

The new 'wheezy' packages will be ver. 1.1*
We are now at 1.0* with the old 'SID' repo
stefano-k

Re: LMDE Gnome 3 - adding MATE

Post by stefano-k »

Wheezy repository is ready!
GeneC

Re: LMDE Gnome 3 - adding MATE

Post by GeneC »

The new Mate repo just came on line, and updates to Mate 1.1* are available.

If you addded Mate you need to change your repos from

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deb http://tridex.net/repo/debian/ sid main
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deb http://tridex.net/repo/debian/ wheezy main
and do a full DU to upgrade from Mate 1.0 to Mate 1.1

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Commit Log for Thu Dec 15 11:39:38 2011


Upgraded the following packages:
atril (1.0.7-2) to 1.1.0-2
atril-common (1.0.7-2) to 1.1.0-2
caja (1.0.3-1) to 1.1.0-2
engrampa (1.0.3-3) to 1.1.0-1
engrampa-common (1.0.3-3) to 1.1.0-1
eom (1.0.0-3) to 1.1.0-1
eom-common (1.0.0-3) to 1.1.0-1
ffmpegthumbnailer-caja (0.3) to 1.1.0-1
libatril (1.0.7-2) to 1.1.0-2
libcaja-extension (1.0.3-1) to 1.1.0-2
libmarco (1.0.9-1) to 1.1.0-2
libmate (1.0.0-4) to 1.1.0-2
libmatecanvas (1.0.0-3) to 1.1.0-1
libmatecomponent (1.0.0-2) to 1.1.0-1
libmatecomponentui (1.0.0-4) to 1.1.0-1
libmatedesktop (1.0.3-1) to 1.1.0-1
libmatekbd (1.0.0-2) to 1.1.0-2
libmatekeyring (1.0.0-3) to 1.1.0-1
libmatenotify (1.0.0-2) to 1.1.0-1
libmatepanelapplet (1.0.9-1) to 1.1.0-1
libmatepolkit (1.0.0-2) to 1.1.0-1
libmateui (1.0.0-3) to 1.1.0-1
libmateweather (1.0.0-3) to 1.1.0-2
marco (1.0.9-1) to 1.1.0-2
marco-common (1.0.9-1) to 1.1.0-2
mate-applets (1.0.6-1) to 1.1.0-1
mate-archive-keyring (1.0.0) to 1.1.0
mate-backgrounds (1.0.0-2) to 1.1.0-1
mate-conf (1.0.9-2) to 1.1.0-1
mate-conf-common (1.0.9-2) to 1.1.0-1
mate-conf-editor (1.0.0-1) to 1.1.0-1
mate-control-center (1.0.0-4) to 1.1.0-1
mate-corba (1.0.0-1) to 1.1.0-1
mate-core (1.0.0) to 1.1.0
mate-desktop (1.0.3-1) to 1.1.0-1
mate-dialogs (1.0.0-2) to 1.1.0-2
mate-file-manager (1.0.3-1) to 1.1.0-2
mate-icon-theme (1.0.0-1) to 1.1.0-1
mate-image-viewer (1.0.0-3) to 1.1.0-1
mate-keyring (1.0.4-2) to 1.1.0-2
mate-media (1.0.5-1) to 1.1.0-1
mate-menus (1.0.2-1) to 1.1.1-1
mate-mime-data (1.0.0-3) to 1.1.0-1
mate-panel (1.0.9-1) to 1.1.0-1
mate-panel-common (1.0.9-1) to 1.1.0-1
mate-polkit (1.0.0-2) to 1.1.0-1
mate-power-manager (1.0.3-2) to 1.1.0-1
mate-screensaver (1.0.0-1) to 1.1.0-2
mate-session-manager (1.0.0-3) to 1.1.0-1
mate-settings-daemon (1.0.0-3) to 1.1.0-1
mate-system-monitor (1.0.2-1) to 1.1.0-1
mate-terminal (1.0.0-1) to 1.1.0-1
mate-text-editor (1.0.1-1) to 1.1.0-1
mate-themes (1.0.0-3) to 1.1.0-1
mate-vfs (1.0.0-3) to 1.1.0-1
mate-window-manager (1.0.9-1) to 1.1.0-2
python-corba (1.0.6-1) to 1.1.0-1
python-mate (1.0.1-1) to 1.1.0-1
python-mate-desktop (1.0.6-2) to 1.1.0-1
python-mate-menu (1.0.2-1) to 1.1.1-1

Installed the following packages:
caja-common (1.1.0-2)
libmateconf (1.1.0-1)
libmatecorba (1.1.0-1)
libmatemenu (1.1.1-1)
libmatevfs (1.1.0-1)
libmateweather-common (1.1.0-2)
Time to try it out. :D
GeneC

Re: LMDE Gnome 3 - adding MATE

Post by GeneC »

Thanks for that Stefano!

Upgrade went smoothly.
Boot times seem faster (was quite slow from logon to desktop before)

1. Mint menu applet no longer loads.
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2. CPU usage still high (45-50%) with compiz, Mint Mate-Z theme.

Everything else is running fine.
stefano-k

Re: LMDE Gnome 3 - adding MATE

Post by stefano-k »

GeneC wrote: 1. Mint menu applet no longer loads.
Where did you get mintmenu? From previous tridex.net?
GeneC wrote: 2. CPU usage still high (45-50%) with compiz, Mint Mate-Z theme.
I didnt test MATE+compiz yet. I will try it to debug the high CPU usage. Does this happens only with mint-z-mate theme?
GeneC

Re: LMDE Gnome 3 - adding MATE

Post by GeneC »

stefano-k wrote:
GeneC wrote: 1. Mint menu applet no longer loads.
Where did you get mintmenu? From previous tridex.net?
I got Mint Menu for Mate panel here..
http://mate.karapetsas.com/index.php?pa ... e=mintmenu
When it was the old tridex repo
stefano-k wrote:
GeneC wrote: 2. CPU usage still high (45-50%) with compiz, Mint Mate-Z theme.
I didnt test MATE+compiz yet. I will try it to debug the high CPU usage. Does this happens only with mint-z-mate theme?
I tried the Mint Mate-Z theme because it was suggested by Clem to cure the high CPU problems in Mint Lisa 12
Workaround for 100% CPU usage

Many themes aren't compatible with MATE yet. If you find MATE anormally slow and your CPU reaches 100% very often, try to change the theme. The following themes are known to work well with MATE:

Mint-Z-Mate
Carbon
http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial ... 5#mate-cpu

Doesn't seem to matter what theme I use.

Thanks for the work on Mate. :wink:
zerozero

Re: LMDE Gnome 3 - adding MATE

Post by zerozero »

hi stefano,
changed the repo, D-U and here i'm as well, like Gene 8)

without compiz the system is smooth and light on the CPU, with compiz on not really

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top - 00:53:34 up  2:07,  1 user,  load average: 0.28, 0.30, 0.21
Tasks: 120 total,   3 running, 116 sleeping,   0 stopped,   1 zombie
Cpu(s): 38.6%us, 19.3%sy,  0.0%ni, 41.9%id,  0.2%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
Mem:   4060368k total,  1551736k used,  2508632k free,   147920k buffers
Swap:        0k total,        0k used,        0k free,  1031560k cached

  PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND            
10206 root      20   0  163m  54m  29m S   10  1.4   1:20.05 Xorg               
10368 mate      20   0 58360 5920 2772 R   10  0.1   1:00.64 mateconfd-2        
10327 mate      20   0  216m 8056 6164 S    5  0.2   0:27.44 mate-session       
10363 mate      20   0 24780 1448  536 S    3  0.0   0:18.77 dbus-daemon        
31483 mate      20   0  143m  33m  12m S    2  0.8   0:01.82 compiz             
10380 mate      20   0  266m  10m 8528 S    2  0.3   0:11.31 mate-settings-d    
10388 mate      20   0  448m  22m  12m S    2  0.6   0:16.21 mate-panel         
27549 mate      20   0  380m  17m  11m S    1  0.4   0:02.06 mate-terminal      
10403 mate      20   0  174m 9.8m 7920 S    1  0.2   0:05.79 mate-power-mana    
  871 mate      20   0  214m 6136 4996 R    1  0.2   0:00.02 marco              
10390 mate      20   0  425m  28m  19m S    1  0.7   0:05.88 caja               
10373 mate      20   0 89420 3340 2740 S    0  0.1   0:01.70 mate-keyring-da    
10383 mate      20   0 61952 2756 2316 S    0  0.1   0:01.59 gvfsd              
10436 mate      20   0  165m 3372 1520 S    0  0.1   0:02.44 mate-screensave    
19257 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.87 kworker/1:2        
31121 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.15 kworker/u:0        
    1 root      20   0 10612  812  676 S    0  0.0   0:01.63 init       
xorg and mateconfd-2 (?) running high.
bellow, the same system but logged in in gnome-shell (no zombies, xorg way down)

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Tasks: 114 total,   1 running, 113 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
Cpu(s):  0.5%us,  0.3%sy,  0.0%ni, 98.5%id,  0.5%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.2%si,  0.0%st
Mem:   4060368k total,  1623652k used,  2436716k free,   151156k buffers
Swap:        0k total,        0k used,        0k free,  1046884k cached

  PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND            
13118 root      20   0  152m  47m  19m S    1  1.2   0:07.63 Xorg               
13325 amadeu    20   0  859m 122m  41m S    0  3.1   0:09.18 gnome-shell        
13344 amadeu    20   0  227m  11m 6672 S    0  0.3   0:00.30 parcellite         
13440 amadeu    20   0 21320 1316  976 R    0  0.0   0:00.34 top                
13444 amadeu    20   0  240m 3952 2780 S    0  0.1   0:00.31 conky              
24090 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.59 kworker/u:0        
    1 root      20   0 10612  812  676 S    0  0.0   0:01.64 init               
    2 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 kthreadd           
    3 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.97 ksoftirqd/0        
    6 root      RT   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 migration/0        
    7 root      RT   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.04 watchdog/0         
    8 root      RT   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 migration/1        
   10 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.70 ksoftirqd/1        
   12 root      RT   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.02 watchdog/1         
   13 root       0 -20     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 cpuset             
   14 root       0 -20     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 khelper            
   15 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 kdevtmpfs      
my system:

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System:    Host amadeu Kernel 3.1.0-1-amd64 x86_64 (64 bit) Distro Linux Mint Debian Edition
CPU:       Dual core Pentium E5400 (-MCP-) cache 2048 KB flags (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 ssse3 vmx) bmips 10799.1 
           Clock Speeds: (1) 2000.00 MHz (2) 1600.00 MHz
Graphics:  Card nVidia G92 [GeForce GTS 250] X.Org 1.11.2.901 Res: 1440x900@50.0hz 
           GLX Renderer GeForce GTS 250/PCI/SSE2 GLX Version 3.3.0 NVIDIA 290.10 Direct Rendering Yes
Audio:     Card Intel N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller driver snd_hda_intel BusID: 00:1b.0
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Version 1.0.24
Network:   Card Realtek RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller driver r8169 v: 2.3LK-NAPI at port de00 BusID: 03:00.0
Disks:     HDD Total Size: 500.1GB (1.7% used) 1: /dev/sda ST3500418AS 500.1GB 
Partition: ID:/ size: 51G used: 7.7G (17%) fs: ext4 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 44.0C mobo: N/A gpu: 0.0:43C 
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: 1371 fan-2: 0 
Info:      Processes 123 Uptime 2:08 Memory 366.5/3965.2MB Runlevel 2 Client Shell inxi 1.4.23 
wayne128

Re: LMDE Gnome 3 - adding MATE

Post by wayne128 »

Thanks stefano,

Update my LMDE-minor -Sid-gnome with new Mate version on wheezy repos.

Old comp, 9-yr old, :mrgreen: , single CPU. 32-bit
No mintmenu, no compiz, just top and bottom panel, like old gnome2

seem snappy at that age :mrgreen:
I remember also older mate version did not allow me to add applet on top panel ( by right click), now with this new version it works :)
GeneC

Re: LMDE Gnome 3 - adding MATE

Post by GeneC »

Mate Mintmenu problem

mintmenu 5.2.4 (from Debian)

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gene@zordon:~$ mintmenu
Opacity is: 100
Setting opacity to: 1.0
__init__ took 277.471 ms
Binding to Hot Key:  Super_L
/usr/lib/linuxmint/mintMenu/mintMenu.py:858: Warning: g_object_set_qdata: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
  main_window.show()
mintmenu 5.2.8 (from Lisa)

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gene@zordon:~$ mintmenu

Mate-ERROR **: Module 'libmateui' requires version '1.101.2' of module 'libmatecomponentui' to be installed, and you only have version '1.1.0' of 'libmatecomponentui'. Aborting application.
Trace/breakpoint trap
stefano-k

Re: LMDE Gnome 3 - adding MATE

Post by stefano-k »

GeneC wrote:Mate Mintmenu problem
Hi GeneC, I already found the problem. We are fixing some things upstream to solve it. I'll notice here when ready :)
stefano-k

Re: LMDE Gnome 3 - adding MATE

Post by stefano-k »

Upgrade to libmate_1.1.2-1, libmatecomponentui_1.1.1-1, libmateui_1.1.2-1 to solve the mintmenu issue :-)
GeneC

Re: LMDE Gnome 3 - adding MATE

Post by GeneC »

Stefano.

Thanks for that. Got my Mintmenu back. :)
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For those of you who want Mintmenu again. Do the upgrades. I had to use the new Mintmenu from Lisa (mintmenu 5.2.8 )
The old Debian one (mintmenu 5.2.4) wont work.

You dont have to add the Lisa repo. You can download the .deb directly from here.
http://packages.linuxmint.com/list.php? ... =Lisa#main

Very fast fix, Stefano. You guys are doing excellent work.
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