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Virtualbox & VMWare Player alternative

Post by indihome » Thu May 23, 2019 4:33 am

Hi guys,

I am stuck with virtualbox 6, it's only support OpenGl 1.1 for Windows 7 guest OS.

Does any of you happen to know the alternative that has, at least, these features
1. Support OpenGl, min ver 2
2. Able to read usb drive on host
3. Able to connect to the Internet
4. Able to ping host machine via host name
5. Support full screen mode

Updated
As for VMWare Player 15, if not mistaken, it is supports OpenGL up to ver 3 for others distro, except for Linux Mint. see post #9 for more details.

Thanks in advance.
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Re: Virtualbox alternative

Post by Pierre » Thu May 23, 2019 6:38 am

have you tried the Older version of VirtualBox:
https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Download_Old_Builds_5_2
to see if that is any different ?

OR

Trying VMware Workstation Pro:https://www.vmware.com/products/worksta ... ation.html
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Re: Virtualbox alternative

Post by indihome » Thu May 23, 2019 7:40 am

Thanks for your reply.

Virtualbox 5.xx also does not support OpenGl 2.

While vmware, I am sure it will supports but to expensive for me.

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Re: Virtualbox alternative

Post by MrEen » Thu May 23, 2019 7:44 am

indihome wrote:
Thu May 23, 2019 7:40 am
While vmware, I am sure it will supports but to expensive for me.
There is a free for non commercial use version (I just started using it.) No idea about the OpenGL support though.

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Re: Virtualbox alternative

Post by sideband » Thu May 23, 2019 8:35 am

VMWare Workstation Player is free for non-commercial use

From Workstation Player Tech Specs....

"3D Graphics with DX10.1 and OpenGL 3.3"

VMWare Workstation Player 15 for Linux will support all your requirements except perhaps pinging the host from the guest by name, though untried an entry in the hosts file - or equivalent - should fix that.

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Re: Virtualbox alternative

Post by indihome » Thu May 23, 2019 10:02 am

If it is free, why there is warning only free for 30 days?

Btw, this screen shoot took from a web, I still don't install it to my computer.
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Re: Virtualbox alternative

Post by sideband » Thu May 23, 2019 2:00 pm

That's the VMWare Workstation installer I believe...you need VMWare Workstation Player for Linux here

https://www.vmware.com/products/worksta ... ation.html

This will ask for a license key as part of the install process, but has a "skip" function for personal and non-commercial use

Quote from https://www.vmware.com/products/workstation-player.html

"VMware Workstation Player is free for personal, non-commercial use (business and non-profit use is considered commercial use). If you would like to learn about virtual machines or use them at home you are welcome to use VMware Workstation Player for free. Students and faculty of accredited educational institutions can use VMware Workstation Player for free if they are members of the VMware Academic Program."

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Re: Virtualbox alternative

Post by indihome » Thu May 23, 2019 6:54 pm

Ok, I have installed VMWare WorkStation Player, but got error when tried to run it.

Here is the link to the error : viewtopic.php?f=231&t=294703

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Re: Virtualbox alternative

Post by indihome » Fri May 24, 2019 10:35 pm

Hi guys,

Sorry guys, have to open this thread again.

I have installed VMWare Player 15, everything runs OK except for one, VMWare Player for Linux Mint doesn't support 3d acceleration for guest OS even host OS supported! I read that on others distro, VMWare supports it.

I run this command

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glxinfo | grep direct
The result

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direct rendering: Yes
    GL_ARB_depth_clamp, GL_ARB_derivative_control, GL_ARB_direct_state_access, 
    GL_ARB_draw_elements_base_vertex, GL_ARB_draw_indirect, 
    GL_ARB_indirect_parameters, GL_ARB_instanced_arrays, 
    GL_ARB_map_buffer_range, GL_ARB_multi_bind, GL_ARB_multi_draw_indirect, 
If not mistaken, my host OS supports 3d acceleration, but VMWare Player always gave error messages told that 3d acceleration not suported in Windows 7 guest.

As a result, OpenGL in guest OS, still ver 1.1

My problem still not solved, is there any app beside VirtualBox & VMWare?

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Re: Virtualbox & VMWare Player alternative

Post by ajgringo619 » Fri May 24, 2019 11:14 pm

You can always try KVM/QEMU: https://www.sysnettechsolutions.com/en/ ... x-systems/

It works great, but it's much more complicated to setup/maintain.
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Re: Virtualbox alternative

Post by pbear » Sat May 25, 2019 12:39 am

indihome wrote:
Fri May 24, 2019 10:35 pm
everything runs OK except for one, VMWare Player for Linux Mint doesn't support 3d acceleration for guest OS even host OS supported!
FWIW, I had the same problem with VMware, on a machine which is a bit old (formerly-Win7 Toshiba laptop) but runs 3D acceleration fine in VirtualBox.
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Re: Virtualbox & VMWare Player alternative

Post by indihome » Sat May 25, 2019 3:08 am

Yeah, VMWare Player gave me so much trouble than VirtualBox.

These are the problems found so far :
  • no 3d acceleration
  • unable to install intel usb 3.0 controller, so have to use usb 2.0, perhaps in intel's cpu, this will succes
  • unable to recognize external usb drive connected to usb type C port
  • screen resolution, sometime restored to default state
Those problem, doesn't occur on VirtualBox. What I like from VMware is a small memory foot print, it seem that this app allocate memory dynamically, not like VirtualBox.

Pity, because of those problems, have to abandon VMWare.

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Re: Virtualbox & VMWare Player alternative

Post by sideband » Sat May 25, 2019 5:01 am

Have a look at the VMWare Workstation Player Tech Specs here...

https://www.vmware.com/products/workstation-player.html

It seems to support your needs, so you might be better off raising your specific queries in the VMWare Communities. There is a wealth of stored solutions to be searched there - also there are many VMWare solutions on Stack Overflow and Ask Ubuntu.

You mention USB2.0 so I think you have must have the VMWare Tools installed, if not they are essential for at least the screen resolution instability you mention

There is a long running, vast thread about KVM and VGA passthrough running in this forum.

"KVM VGA passthrough tutorial for Linux Mint 18, 18.1, 18.2, 18.3 - release 3.9"

It's 27 pages long and probably includes Mint 19.1 now - or a new thread has been started.
This mode might be more suitable for your needs, though it's not for the faint hearted

I have used VMWare Player in Linux for more years than I care to remember, but I have no requirement beyond 2D graphics, all software uses USB 1 & 2 "passthrough". My only regret about VMWare is that it is supported by Linux distro so older versions fall by the wayside quickly with kernel updates...which means version 7 Player (the last of the true Player versions) no longer compiles and "Unity" mode is lost, just a faint hope perhaps as this mode is supported on Windows host.

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Re: Virtualbox & VMWare Player alternative

Post by indihome » Sat May 25, 2019 8:01 am

@sideband
Yes, I have VMTools installed, but sometime, after install some software that not related to VGA and need to reboot, previous setting of screen resolution gone after reboot.

Intel USB 3.0 controller can't be installed due to 'system requirement not meet'. On VB, this controller install and runs fine.

As for VMWare Workstation Player features, not sure if this features available for Windows/Linux host and if not mistaken, I read that OpenGL 3.3 supported on Linux host other than Mint distro.

I will try to ask my problems in their communities.

Thanks anyway for your help.

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