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USB problem with vbox 6.1 with win7 as guest OS.

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Installed LM 20 Cinnamon to a new 500GB SSD. GPT partitioning with / and /home partitions. LM 20 install was smooth and easy, copied my home folders from old drive to new drive. Installed my applications with no problems. Installed it in my desktop. Boots with no problems.

Installed Vbox 6.1.12 and Extension pack 6.1.12 .
In LM added vboxusers in Users and groups (Rebooted)
Installed Win7 Ultimate SP1 in Vbox, ran Guest additions ISO in Win7, set up shared folder. Just can't seem to get the USB to work.

The usb drive appears in vbox usb settings
USB 3.0 vbox.png
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Running vbox I can hear the sound of it switching to win7 but it doesn't show up when opening computer, I can see the shared folder but not the usb drive.

Previous vbox win7 installs I downloaded and installed usb drivers from

https://downloadcenter.intel.com/downlo ... duct=65855

but that site not available anymore.
Searched and found some other usb drivers but can't install any of them.
My machine

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anyu@anyu:~$ inxi -Fxz
System:
  Kernel: 5.4.0-42-generic x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 9.3.0 
  Desktop: Cinnamon 4.6.6 Distro: Linux Mint 20 Ulyana 
  base: Ubuntu 20.04 focal 
Machine:
  Type: Desktop System: ASUS product: All Series v: N/A serial: <filter> 
  Mobo: ASUSTeK model: Z97-A-USB31 v: Rev 1.xx serial: <filter> 
  UEFI: American Megatrends v: 2501 date: 06/24/2015 
Battery:
  Device-1: hidpp_battery_0 model: Logitech Wireless Keyboard 
  charge: 55% (should be ignored) status: Discharging 
  Device-2: hidpp_battery_1 
  model: Logitech Marathon Mouse/Performance Plus M705 
  charge: 55% (should be ignored) status: Discharging 
CPU:
  Topology: Quad Core model: Intel Core i5-4690K bits: 64 type: MCP 
  arch: Haswell rev: 3 L2 cache: 6144 KiB 
  flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx 
  bogomips: 27985 
  Speed: 1399 MHz min/max: 800/3900 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1400 2: 1399 
  3: 1399 4: 1399 
Graphics:
  Device-1: NVIDIA GM206 [GeForce GTX 950] vendor: Gigabyte driver: nvidia 
  v: 390.138 bus ID: 01:00.0 
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.8 driver: nvidia 
  unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,nouveau,vesa resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz 
  OpenGL: renderer: GeForce GTX 950/PCIe/SSE2 v: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 390.138 
  direct render: Yes 
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel 9 Series Family HD Audio vendor: ASUSTeK 
  driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1b.0 
  Device-2: NVIDIA GM206 High Definition Audio vendor: Gigabyte 
  driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 01:00.1 
  Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.4.0-42-generic 
Network:
  Device-1: Intel Ethernet I218-V vendor: ASUSTeK driver: e1000e v: 3.2.6-k 
  port: f040 bus ID: 00:19.0 
  IF: eno1 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter> 
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 484.16 GiB used: 75.71 GiB (15.6%) 
  ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Team model: T253X2512G size: 476.94 GiB 
  ID-2: /dev/sdc type: USB vendor: Toshiba model: TransMemory size: 7.22 GiB 
Partition:
  ID-1: / size: 95.62 GiB used: 11.79 GiB (12.3%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2 
  ID-2: /home size: 372.23 GiB used: 59.89 GiB (16.1%) fs: ext4 
  dev: /dev/sda3 
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 29.8 C mobo: 27.8 C gpu: nvidia temp: 28 C 
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A gpu: nvidia fan: 49% 
Info:
  Processes: 220 Uptime: 9h 11m Memory: 15.58 GiB used: 952.7 MiB (6.0%) 
  Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 9.3.0 Shell: bash v: 5.0.17 
  inxi: 3.0.38 
anyu@anyu:~$ 
Maybe I missed something? Any and all help would be appreciated!
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Re: USB problem with vbox 6.1 with win7 as guest OS.

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I know that it is obvious, and you probably did it, but did you enable the device in the VM through Devices->USB?
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Re: USB problem with vbox 6.1 with win7 as guest OS.

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Don't know if this makes a diff, but does it matter if it is USB 2.0 or 3.0? Pix shows 3.0 selected?
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Re: USB problem with vbox 6.1 with win7 as guest OS.

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farkas wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 5:57 am
Previous vbox win7 installs ...
Do you still have the old VM? If so, copy its folder over and add with Machine > Add. Don't use the export/import function (that's for VMWare compatibility). Just copy and Add. With Add, you open the VM folder and select the .vbox file. That handles everything else, especially settings and the virtual hard drive. You'll have to update guest additions, of course, but it's exactly the same as if you had upgraded VBox on the old machine.
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Re: USB problem with vbox 6.1 with win7 as guest OS.

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Without the USB3 drivers, you'll be stuck at USB2 at best.
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Re: USB problem with vbox 6.1 with win7 as guest OS.

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Thanks to all who replied! :)

Win 7 decided to install another update. Shut down, reboot etc. :mrgreen:
I got the USB to work, sort of! It will only work with a 2.0 stick in a 2.0 port. 3.0 sticks will not work at all.
Down loaded and tried to install usb 3.0 drivers, lost count, none of them worked. Kept getting the error
"This computer does not meet the minimum requirements for installation software"

Anyhow, decided not to fight this win 7 mess until, hopefully, someone in this forum can point me to a 3.0 driver that works. In the meantime I can use the shared folder for file transfers, it's just an extra step or two.

hydrurga, device in the VM through Devices->USB, shows usb 3.0 stick with a check mark next to it.
wallyUSA, your suggestion led me to the sort of solution mentioned above.
linux-rox, I may try your solution later on. My concern is that it is a different version of Win7 than the previous install.
ajgringo619, I'll be stuck at USB2 at best. :lol: :cry:

I installed LM 20 on this drive with a SATA 3.0 to 2.5" HDD/SSD cable using pbears tutorial
viewtopic.php?f=42&t=287353
using the
UEFI - Unflag/Reflag Method,
using my laptop. Installed the drive in my desktop for testing.

I'm going to install this drive in my Mom's computer, which needs an upgrade from LM 18.3 to LM 20 and a 256GB to 500GB SSD drive.
There are some games she likes to play that I haven't found any Linux versions.
Hopefully, all I'll have to do is a minor SSD drive transplant surgery on her machine and everything will be good to go. Just add the printer and some minor tweaks. This way she can use her machine until I'm ready to do the update/upgrade with little interruption as possible.

Thanks again! :)

PS
All of the above reminds me why I switched to Linux after MS dropped support for win 95. :mrgreen:
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Re: USB problem with vbox 6.1 with win7 as guest OS.

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I got the USB to work, sort of! It will only work with a 2.0 stick in a 2.0 port. 3.0 sticks will not work at all.
Out of the box win7 does not support usb3 and you need to install the drivers. Two routes:
  • get direct from intel
  • install driver easy in win7 and use it to add the usb3 drivers - think it is a bit bloatware and there is only a free trial (think it allows only one driver at a time). If you go down this route, un-install it when finished.
https://www.drivereasy.com/

This might be the intel driver:
https://downloadcenter.intel.com/downlo ... set-Family
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Re: USB problem with vbox 6.1 with win7 as guest OS.

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farkas wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:19 am
My concern is that it is a different version of Win7 than the previous install.
Was there something wrong with the old VM? Why did you start over?
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Re: USB problem with vbox 6.1 with win7 as guest OS.

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Thanks for your replies andyMH and linux-rox.

andyMH
Tried your suggestions. Downloaded and tried to install
https://downloadcenter.intel.com/downlo ... set-Family
no go. Same error as above.
"This computer does not meet the minimum requirements for installation software"

Downloaded and installed from https://www.drivereasy.com/ . It only shows USB 2.0 drivers, all upto date, for the new full install of win7 on the new drive. Thanks, but that is also a no go.

linux-rox
"Was there something wrong with the old VM? Why did you start over?"

Updating from LM 18.3 to LM 20 and vbox 6.0 to 6.1 and a new SSD drive.
The old VM was a win7 and installed using Pjotr's
https://easylinuxtipsproject.blogspot.c ... albox.html
It had to be reactivated every 30 days and and it only was good for one year.
Win7 is no longer available on his web site, since MS discontinued support for win7.

The current install of win7, on the new drive, is from an old CD with activation codes, dated 2009.
It runs OK and I'll live with usb 2.0, maybe buy some more 2.0 sticks. Using the shared folder will suffice for file transfers, just couple of extra steps.

The current test box has an Asus mobo. The new drive will be installed in box with a Gigabyte mobo. Maybe Gigabyte has a 3.0 driver, but I'm not getting my hopes up.

Thanks again!
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Re: USB problem with vbox 6.1 with win7 as guest OS.

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farkas wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:37 pm
It had to be reactivated every 30 days and and it only was good for one year.
Win7 is no longer available on his web site, since MS discontinued support for win7.
Didn't realize it was a trial version. Yeah, no point trying to copy that over.
... I'll live with usb 2.0, maybe buy some more 2.0 sticks.
The problem with 2.0 sticks is that no one seems to be making good ones anymore. At least, I can't find 'em.
Meanwhile, seems to me 3.0 sticks are faster, even on 2.0 ports. YMMV. :)
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Re: USB problem with vbox 6.1 with win7 as guest OS.

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farkas wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 5:57 am
Searched and found some other usb drivers but can't install any of them.
Is this one of the things you tried? Happened to be reading the VBox tutorial on USB drives, and it's what they suggest.
Win7: you need to install the "Intel USB 3.0 eXtensible Host Controller Driver" in your Windows 7 guest.

Update 2019-11-20: Intel seems to have removed the driver from its official site, you can get it from the Archive.org site: http://web.archive.org/web/201901092235 ... Driver.zip
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Thank linux-rox

https://downloadcenter.intel.com/downlo ... set-Family
That's the driver I've been trying to download, but that site is no longer functioning

I'll give that driver download site
https://web.archive.org/web/20190109223 ... Driver.zip
a try.
The new drive is already installed and working. Will let you know if the driver from web.archive.org works, early next week.
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Tried
https://web.archive.org/web/20190109223 ... Driver.zip
That didn't work either still getting
USB 3.0 driver install error.png
The following is the win7 system info for usb devices
System info vbox Win7 USB device.png
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Well, darn. At least the file was still available. Imagine how frustrating if it had been no longer available.
FWIW, I use VBox on an old laptop which only has 2.0 ports. Not as fast, of course, but it's not horrible.
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Merely putting this across as an alternative, Windows 8.1 isn't bad at all (certainly not as bad as it started out). I moved my Windows 7 VM over to Windows 8.1 when Windows 7 went EOL and haven't had any issues with it at all. And the advantage is of course that it natively handles USB3.
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There is an Intel USB 3 driver for Windows 7, but unfortunately it doesn't work in a VM. I used it when I converted Windows 7 to be compatible with the Core i7 cpu. I also had to make W7 see a M2 drive. I did it because Dell told me it couldn't be done.
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mzee1934 wrote:
Tue Oct 27, 2020 6:50 am
There is an Intel USB 3 driver for Windows 7, but unfortunately it doesn't work in a VM. I used it when I converted Windows 7 to be compatible with the Core i7 cpu. I also had to make W7 see a M2 drive. I did it because Dell told me it couldn't be done.
I didn't have any problems installing the win7 usb3 drivers from intel in my win7 VM.
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