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Re: Mint Debian

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maybeway36 wrote:I'm making some really good progress on the live-helper-based CD. MP3 and Flash will be included. DVD support (libdvdcss2) doesn't seem like much use running from CD, but if it fits (it probably will) I'll add that and w32codecs. Any other codecs I forgot?
Excellent to hear about your progress.

Regarding codecs, maybe the ones for mkv files? I know they're not terribly popular, but a growing number of movies and animu are using mkv more and more. They work in Totem, but have been dodgy in VLC, in my experience anyway. Just a thought.
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Re: Mint Debian

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red-a-made wrote:the dual panels (seriously, why two?)
You don't have many windows open at the same time and perhaps also not a lot of 'things' on your panel to say what kind of thing...

I consider two-panels (the Gnome default) as necessary, even in other desktops than Gnome I have always two panels. :!:

Mint does not have this configuration by default, BTW for me it's a mistake, but it is easy to change! :D
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1.Maybe some RealMedia codec and QuickTime.
2.Streamtuner/Streamripper for wwwRadio Recording (they are small).

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Re: Mint Debian

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maybeway36, were you able to make the Live CD installable?
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Re: Mint Debian

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I think I have most of the codecs on there (along with both totem and mplayer.) There is a "live-installer" that is supposed to let you install the live CD to the hard disk, but I haven't tested this (it sounds pretty new from what I gather.) I'm building the CD now and it should be up on filefront when it is done.

Here's the rather large list of included packages on top of basic Debian:

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gdm gnome-core desktop-base gnome-themes mintmenu mintupdate-gnome mintdesktop mintinstall python-apt python-xdg file-roller mplayer iceweasel-gnome-support xchat-gnome icedove-gnome-support openoffice.org-gnome openoffice.org-writer openoffice.org-calc openoffice.org-impress gimp pidgin eog compiz-gnome compizconfig-settings-manager gnome-games vinagre evince dmz-cursor-theme gstreamer0.10-plugins-good gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly rhythmbox gconf-editor totem gcalctool streamtuner streamripper gstreamer0.10-lame gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg-full gstreamer0.10-plugins-really-bad flashplayer-mozilla w32codecs libdvdcss2
In addition, the Mint artwork was added (as well as the gconf file. Nice tip merlwiz79!)
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Re: Mint Debian

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A lot of us have been waiting a long time for someone to step up and make a move on Mint Debian. Although this is just a start it's really great to see you working on this. Thanks again!
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Re: Mint Debian

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I second lakehousetech - good to see someone doing the heavy work for those of us who'd love to see this happen and give it a test drive, but (speaking for myself personally) lack the technological know-how to make it happen. Many thanks.
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Re: Mint Debian

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The ISO image turned out 777MB, so I'm going to take out OpenOffice.org and replace it with Abiword/Gnumeric which should reduce the size considerably.
Also, I've made an update to my mint-artwork package for Debian, so now the background and settings are applied by default in GNOME: http://files.filefront.com/mint+artwork ... einfo.html
That and mintMenu were really the hardest parts. Everything else is pretty much "install this, install that." :)
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Re: Mint Debian

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maybeway36 wrote:The ISO image turned out 777MB, so I'm going to take out OpenOffice.org and replace it with Abiword/Gnumeric which should reduce the size considerably.
Also, I've made an update to my mint-artwork package for Debian, so now the background and settings are applied by default in GNOME: http://files.filefront.com/mint+artwork ... einfo.html
That and mintMenu were really the hardest parts. Everything else is pretty much "install this, install that." :)
No need to put Abiword in there - OpenOffice is pretty easy to manually install, which can be done once this is downloaded.

I look forward to the ISO!
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Re: Mint Debian

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maybeway36 wrote:The ISO image turned out 777MB, so I'm going to take out OpenOffice.org and replace it with Abiword/Gnumeric which should reduce the size considerably.
Also, I've made an update to my mint-artwork package for Debian, so now the background and settings are applied by default in GNOME: http://files.filefront.com/mint+artwork ... einfo.html
That and mintMenu were really the hardest parts. Everything else is pretty much "install this, install that." :)
Wow what did you install that wasn't on Mint Main?
It shouldn't be that big.
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Re: Mint Debian

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I'm looking forward to test this Mint based on Debian project. :)
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Re: Mint Debian

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ISOs made with live-helper turn out to be pretty big for some reason. But the good news: with OpenOffice.org removed and Abiword/Gnumeric added, it's 653MB. I'll test it and upload it if it works, but I might remove Abiword and Gnumeric too to make it smaller (so it downloads faster.)
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Re: Mint Debian

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The ISO is finished, but my Internet connection is too shaky to upload it. Does anyone have an FTP server that I could use, so I can resume the upload in case it times out?
Alternatively, you culd build the ISO yourself. Download and unpack this tarball in a working Debian testing/unstable installation: http://files.filefront.com/MintDebianDe ... einfo.html
Install the live-helper package, then go to the directory you unpacked the tarball to and run as root

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lh_build
The result should be the same ISO I have.
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Re: Mint Debian

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Can you post the link to the iso you used for the install you have?
I never installed debian but will try and make the iso.
I then would upload it to filefront for others to download.
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Re: Mint Debian

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I am going to sign up for some download space on tuxfamily, so I can host an ISO there. However, because of its policies it won't include most of the codecs. (They can of course be installed later.)
If you want to install Debian and build the mint ISO, I usually install Debian with the netboot image:
[url]ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/gtk/mini.iso[/url] (graphical)
[url]ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso[/url] (text-mode, like Ubuntu's alternate installer)
It's only about 15MB, so you might want to avoid burning a CD and use unetbootin instead (that's up to you.)
Either way, you might want to resize your partitions with GParted first and then leave some unallocated space for Debian to use.
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Re: Mint Debian

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merlwiz79 wrote:Can you post the link to the iso you used for the install you have?
I never installed debian but will try and make the iso.
I then would upload it to filefront for others to download.
:D

Awesome.
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Re: Mint Debian

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Can you post the sources.list you where using?
Also did you install sun-java?
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Re: Mint Debian

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Here is my sources.list for the CD:

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deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ lenny main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ lenny main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib
deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org lenny main
deb-src http://www.debian-multimedia.org lenny main
deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ elyssa main
deb-src http://packages.linuxmint.com/ elyssa main
I also updated the CD a bit; here are the new config files for live-helper:
http://hosted.filefront.com/maybeway36
EDIT: The config files have been updated again and they should work now. Grab the tarball with the newest date on it.
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Re: Mint Debian

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The installer ended up not working (it's a big work in progress, so I had my doubts.) On the plus side, now I can fit more on the CD (and by "more" I mean OpenOffice.org.) I'm building a new version and will maybe try uploading it to filefront overnight.
EDIT: OpenOffice.org still won't fit! :? I'm putting abiword-gnome on there; the ISO I have is now 589MB, which is a nice, manageable size.

If you want to install a Mint-flavored Debian, you could:
*install Debian lenny/sid standard system (command-line)
*add Linux Mint, debian-multimedia, contrib and non-free to the sources.list
*install this huge list of packages:

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xorg gnome-core gnome-themes mintmenu mintupdate-gnome mintdesktop mintinstall python-apt python-xdg file-roller mplayer tomboy iceweasel-gnome-support icedove-gnome-support openoffice.org-gnome openoffice.org-writer openoffice.org-calc openoffice.org-impress xchat-gnome fortunes gimp transmission brasero pidgin eog compiz-gnome compizconfig-settings-manager gnome-games vinagre evince dmz-cursor-theme gstreamer0.10-plugins-good gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly rhythmbox gconf-editor totem gcalctool streamtuner streamripper ttf-liberation gstreamer0.10-lame gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg-full gstreamer0.10-plugins-really-bad flashplayer-mozilla w32codecs libdvdcss2
*install the 2 .deb packages on my filefront page, mint-artwork and mintmenu-debian
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Re: Mint Debian

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You don't install all of open office and did you remove the .bak files in /boot.
I think this is the main list of openoffice packages you need installed.
I believe the rest can be removed, unless it's a dependecy.

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openoffice.org-base
openoffice.org-base-core
openoffice.org-calc
openoffice.org-common
openoffice.org-core
openoffice.org-draw
openoffice.org-gnome
openoffice.org-gtk
openoffice.org-hyphenation
openoffice.org-hyphenation-en-us
openoffice.org-impress
openoffice.org-java-common
openoffice.org-thesaurus-en-au
openoffice.org-thesaurus-en-us
openoffice.org-writer
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