Mint Debian

craig10x · Post by **craig10x** » Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:28 pm

yes that is so true...that is the one (and the ONLY thing) i miss about windows...the excellent font rendering.....

regarding comment:

+1 for KDE and 64bit versions, that would be awesome.

1. Deb-based
2. Rolling release
3. Lovely desktop environment
Doesn't it sound like a distro of dream?:)

+1 from me too on that one since i run Mint 9 KDE now (converted from the Mint Gnome side...lol) with great font rendering of course...

I always install the mscore fonts (it helps on certain sites i visit a lot) but how do you do that
~/.fonts.conf business? (i am not that "savvy" about those kind of things) does it really make it look as good as the ubuntu based version?

bug67 · Post by **bug67** » Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:36 pm

kmb42vt wrote:In terminal, type: "sol" (without the quotes). That's the actual command for Aisle Riot. Strange though as Aisle Riot is listed in the menu under "Games" and fires right up for me. The command path for Aisle Riot is "/usr/games/sol" by the way. If it's showing up in the menu, right-click on the icon and select "Properties" and make sure that's the command path shown. Worth a try anyway.

I suppose this really ought to be in its own thread but since it has been addressed here...

"sol" (without quotes in terminal) returned this:

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Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig
Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
Failed to initialise clutter: XServer appears to lack required GLX support

Command path from "properties" is:

/usr/games/sol

It looks to me like "XSever" appears to lack "required GLX support" whatever that is.

Sounds like it may be something to do with my graphics chip? I don't know if any of this will help:

"lspci" returned this:

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00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/PM/GMS, 943/940GML and 945GT Express Memory Controller Hub (rev 03)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family PCI Express Port 1 (rev 02)
00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family PCI Express Port 3 (rev 02)
00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family PCI Express Port 4 (rev 02)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 02)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 02)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 02)
00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 02)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 02)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev e2)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801GBM (ICH7-M) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 02)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) IDE Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 82801GBM/GHM (ICH7 Family) SATA AHCI Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family SMBus Controller (rev 02)
05:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02)
08:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation PRO/100 VE Network Connection (rev 02)
08:09.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Ricoh Co Ltd R5C832 IEEE 1394 Controller
08:09.1 SD Host controller: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro Host Adapter (rev 19)
08:09.2 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C843 MMC Host Controller (rev 0a)
08:09.3 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C592 Memory Stick Bus Host Adapter (rev 05)
08:09.4 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd xD-Picture Card Controller (rev ff)

"lspci -v" returned this:

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00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/PM/GMS, 943/940GML and 945GT Express Memory Controller Hub (rev 03)
	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 30b2
	Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: agpgart-intel

00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 30b2
	Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 16
	Memory at d4200000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512K]
	I/O ports at 1800 [size=8]
	Memory at c0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
	Memory at d4300000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256K]
	Expansion ROM at <unassigned> [disabled]
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: i915

00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 30b2
	Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
	Memory at d4280000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512K]
	Capabilities: <access denied>

00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 30b2
	Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 22
	Memory at d4340000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: HDA Intel

00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family PCI Express Port 1 (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
	Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
	Bus: primary=00, secondary=02, subordinate=03, sec-latency=0
	I/O behind bridge: 00002000-00002fff
	Memory behind bridge: d2000000-d3ffffff
	Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 00000000d0000000-00000000d1ffffff
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: pcieport

00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family PCI Express Port 3 (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
	Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
	Bus: primary=00, secondary=04, subordinate=04, sec-latency=0
	I/O behind bridge: 00004000-00004fff
	Memory behind bridge: 80000000-801fffff
	Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 0000000080200000-00000000803fffff
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: pcieport

00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family PCI Express Port 4 (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
	Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
	Bus: primary=00, secondary=05, subordinate=05, sec-latency=0
	I/O behind bridge: 00005000-00005fff
	Memory behind bridge: d4000000-d40fffff
	Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 0000000080400000-00000000805fffff
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: pcieport

00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 30b2
	Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 23
	I/O ports at 1820 [size=32]
	Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd

00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 30b2
	Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 19
	I/O ports at 1840 [size=32]
	Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd

00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 30b2
	Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 21
	I/O ports at 1860 [size=32]
	Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd

00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 30b2
	Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 16
	I/O ports at 1880 [size=32]
	Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd

00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 02) (prog-if 20 [EHCI])
	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 30b2
	Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 23
	Memory at d4544000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1K]
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: ehci_hcd

00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev e2) (prog-if 01 [Subtractive decode])
	Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
	Bus: primary=00, secondary=08, subordinate=08, sec-latency=64
	I/O behind bridge: 00003000-00003fff
	Memory behind bridge: d4100000-d41fffff
	Capabilities: <access denied>

00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801GBM (ICH7-M) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 02)
	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 30b2
	Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0
	Capabilities: <access denied>

00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) IDE Controller (rev 02) (prog-if 8a [Master SecP PriP])
	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 30b2
	Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 18
	I/O ports at 01f0 [size=8]
	I/O ports at 03f4 [size=1]
	I/O ports at 0170 [size=8]
	I/O ports at 0374 [size=1]
	I/O ports at 1810 [size=16]
	Kernel driver in use: ata_piix

00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 82801GBM/GHM (ICH7 Family) SATA AHCI Controller (rev 02) (prog-if 01 [AHCI 1.0])
	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 30b2
	Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 27
	I/O ports at 18d0 [size=8]
	I/O ports at 18c4 [size=4]
	I/O ports at 18c8 [size=8]
	I/O ports at 18c0 [size=4]
	I/O ports at 18b0 [size=16]
	Memory at d4544400 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1K]
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: ahci

00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family SMBus Controller (rev 02)
	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 30b2
	Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 20
	I/O ports at 18e0 [size=32]

05:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02)
	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 135b
	Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 28
	Memory at d4000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: iwl3945

08:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation PRO/100 VE Network Connection (rev 02)
	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 30b2
	Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 66, IRQ 20
	Memory at d4100000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
	I/O ports at 3000 [size=64]
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: e100

08:09.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Ricoh Co Ltd R5C832 IEEE 1394 Controller (prog-if 10 [OHCI])
	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 30b2
	Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 16
	Memory at d4101000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=2K]
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: firewire_ohci

08:09.1 SD Host controller: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro Host Adapter (rev 19)
	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 30b2
	Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 18
	Memory at d4101800 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: sdhci-pci

08:09.2 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C843 MMC Host Controller (rev 0a)
	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 30b2
	Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 10
	Memory at d4101c00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: ricoh-mmc

08:09.3 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C592 Memory Stick Bus Host Adapter (rev 05)
	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 30b2
	Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 10
	Memory at d4102000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]
	Capabilities: <access denied>

08:09.4 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd xD-Picture Card Controller (rev ff) (prog-if ff)
	!!! Unknown header type 7f

randomizer · Post by **randomizer** » Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:49 pm

craig10x wrote:I always install the mscore fonts (it helps on certain sites i visit a lot) but how do you do that
~/.fonts.conf business? (i am not that "savvy" about those kind of things) does it really make it look as good as the ubuntu based version?

Well they may not be exactly the same, but they are better than the defaults. Add a new file to your home directory called .fonts.config and paste the following into it:

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<?xml version="1.0"?>
<!DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM "fonts.dtd">
<fontconfig>

<!-- Use subpixel rendering except on bold fonts where colour fringes are noticeable -->

<match target="font">
<test qual="all" name="weight" compare="less_eq"><const>medium</const></test>
<edit name="rgba" mode="assign"><const>rgb</const></edit>
</match>

<!-- Use the autohinter to make characters with diagonal lines look better (like 'x' and 'k') and generally improve appearance of everything -->

<match target="font">
<edit name="autohint" mode="assign"><bool>true</bool></edit>
</match>

<!-- Set the hinting style to "medium" so we don't get fat fonts with the autohinter -->

<match target="font">
<edit name="hintstyle" mode="assign"><const>hintmedium</const></edit>
</match>

<!-- Disable Autohinting for medium-sized bold fonts because it doesn't look right -->

<match target="font">
<test qual="all" name="weight" compare="more"><const>medium</const></test>
<test qual="all" name="pixelsize" compare="less"><double>16</double></test>
<test qual="all" name="pixelsize" compare="more"><double>10</double></test>
<edit name="autohint" mode="assign"><bool>false</bool></edit>
</match>


<!-- Enable anti-aliasing -->

<match target="font">
<edit name="antialias" mode="assign"><bool>true</bool></edit>
</match>

</fontconfig>

Tweak each setting as you feel the need.

Post by **Oscar799** » Fri Sep 10, 2010 1:58 am

omns on Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:24 pm

mfdemicco wrote:

craig10x wrote:

omns wrote:for me,if the mint team, can't make it look at least as good as ubuntu, i won't switch to the debian version, ever....and ultimately i would really love to, but that would unfortunately be a major "deal breaker" for me...
to my eye, debian looks horrible...

Exactly. I think the problem is solvable, but from what I've read, involves a complex process of patching some libraries (libcairo2, for example). I don't want to risk screwing up my system so I'll wait until the Mint team figures it out.

BTW, I'm running sidux (based on Debian Unstable (Sid) with KDE) and the fonts look great on it - comparable to Mint 9/Ubuntu.

I think there's a mistake in formatting of the original quote there. I never said that. craig10x owns those thoughts

omns is correct,he did not say that
Looks like the quotes got tangled up
oscar799
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gjringo · Post by **gjringo** » Fri Sep 10, 2010 7:26 am

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Re: Mint Debian

Postby randomizer on Fri Sep 10, 2010 1:49 pm

craig10x wrote:I always install the mscore fonts (it helps on certain sites i visit a lot) but how do you do that
~/.fonts.conf business? (i am not that "savvy" about those kind of things) does it really make it look as good as the ubuntu based version?

Well they may not be exactly the same, but they are better than the defaults. Add a new file to your home directory called .fonts.config and paste the following into it:

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<?xml version="1.0"?>
<!DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM "fonts.dtd">
<fontconfig>



<match target="font">
<test qual="all" name="weight" compare="less_eq"><const>medium</const></test>
<edit name="rgba" mode="assign"><const>rgb</const></edit>
</match>



<match target="font">
<edit name="autohint" mode="assign"><bool>true</bool></edit>
</match>



<match target="font">
<edit name="hintstyle" mode="assign"><const>hintmedium</const></edit>
</match>



<match target="font">
<test qual="all" name="weight" compare="more"><const>medium</const></test>
<test qual="all" name="pixelsize" compare="less"><double>16</double></test>
<test qual="all" name="pixelsize" compare="more"><double>10</double></test>
<edit name="autohint" mode="assign"><bool>false</bool></edit>
</match>



<match target="font">
<edit name="antialias" mode="assign"><bool>true</bool></edit>
</match>

</fontconfig>

Tweak each setting as you feel the need.

Works well for me, thanks for the random~izer

msuggs · Post by **msuggs** » Fri Sep 10, 2010 7:39 am

bug67 wrote:
I suppose this really ought to be in its own thread but since it has been addressed here...

"sol" (without quotes in terminal) returned this:
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Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig
Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
Failed to initialise clutter: XServer appears to lack required GLX support
Command path from "properties" is:

/usr/games/sol

It looks to me like "XSever" appears to lack "required GLX support" whatever that is.

Sounds like it may be something to do with my graphics chip?

bug67 you seem to have the same intel card that I have one one of my machines. To solve this problem I had to remove the xserver-xorg-video-nouveau and xserver-xorg-video-nv packages then run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. I restarted X and all was well. I don't fully understand why this works as the removed packages aren't intel related.

randomizer · Post by **randomizer** » Fri Sep 10, 2010 8:34 am

gjringo wrote:Works well for me, thanks for the random~izer

No problem. I'm glad my few hours of reading and tweaking and staring too closely at my monitor today have paid off for more than one person

There's a whole lot more you can do with that file. Some people have multiple pages of stuff where changes affect certain fonts only, some fonts replace others, etc. But switching between a config that was an order of magnitude or more larger than mine and my own, I couldn't see an iota of difference.

This time I plan to actually backup this file so I don't have to do this all over again!

craig10x · Post by **craig10x** » Fri Sep 10, 2010 9:27 am

thanks the tip from me too randomizer....still, i hope the mint team will also do the tinkering..on the actual system, so that it's already done for us...kind of like the difference between buying a "kit" you have to assemble and buying something that is ready to use

mfdemicco · Post by **mfdemicco** » Fri Sep 10, 2010 9:40 am

Irbis wrote:
craig10x wrote:Then Sid must have made the appropriate patching changes...as you said, the mint team would have to figure it out...
I use KDE now myself (just recently switched from gnome thanks to getting hooked on Mint 9 64 bit KDE)...and i would want the KDE 64 bit version of Mint Debian which hopefully will eventually be offered...I hope by then they got the fonts to look as good (or better) then ubuntu/kubuntu...
Mint 9 KDE looks great right out of the box with no tinkering at all...

Hmm..never looked at Sid...might have to check it out...to just to play a bit...that's a rolling distro? is is stable? How about getting codecs for it...does it come with what you need or do you have to add it on and how do you do it? I know a bit off topic but just curious....
+1 for KDE and 64bit versions, that would be awesome.

1. Deb-based
2. Rolling release
3. Lovely desktop environment
Doesn't it sound like a distro of dream?:)

sidux is based on Debian Unstable (Sid) and KDE and comes in 32 and 64 bit versions. It does 1-3. Fred (do a search in the forum) pointed me to sidux. Right now they've stopped development due to a beef with Debian, but will be coming out with an update soon under a new name. The installer is very fast. It boots up and runs fast. They want you to use apt for all updates and installations. A lot of stuff isn't installed, but it is fairly ez to install things. It definitely takes a bit more knowledge to run than Mint does, but is not overly difficult.

I used to run the 64 bit version, but now that Flash is unavailable and my Canon printer drivers are only available in 32 bit versions, I am using the 32 bit version. I notice no difference in speed. Unless you are using a lot of memory (> 4 gigs?) you probably don't need the 64 bit version.

ibm450 · Post by **ibm450** » Fri Sep 10, 2010 10:06 am

3G wireless modem not connecting, Telstra - replicated the connection as in m9 - the connection icon will just spin and will not connect - both on livecd and install onto hd

during install, it kept freezing on the "updating grub menu" section a number of times - canceled install and was surprised it booted and worked.

has potential, but havnt really noticed any speed gains (performance wise)

anyways, keep up the good work, will definately keeping a close eye on this debian distro.

eta on 64bit version???

shayney · Post by **shayney** » Fri Sep 10, 2010 11:28 am

mfdemicco wrote:sidux is based on Debian Unstable (Sid) and KDE and comes in 32 and 64 bit versions. It does 1-3. Fred (do a search in the forum) pointed me to sidux. Right now they've stopped development due to a beef with Debian, but will be coming out with an update soon under a new name.

Just thought I'd mention, the beef is with the sidux foundation (set up by sidux for fundraising etc) who hold the sidux trademark.
There is a much deeper story and plenty of confusion surrounding it last time I checked, there are bits and bobs of information floating around their forum but nobody seems willing to give a full and frank explanation of everything, preferring to brush it all under the carpet and move on instead.
As said, sidux will continue under a new name and apparently everything else will continue as before but it should be said there seems to be a lot of bad feeling on the forum between everyone - devs, users and foundation members (some of whom are also devs and users to confuse things further

).

I would say the future is far from certain for sidux

altair4 · Post by **altair4** » Fri Sep 10, 2010 12:30 pm

shayney wrote:....
The partition type for my fat32 data partition used "fat32" as the partition type instead of vfat.
....

I've submitted a bug report of the fat32 filetype problem in case you have a launchpad id and want to add your vote to the "this bug affects" count:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/linuxmint/+bug/634903

deleted · Post by **deleted** » Fri Sep 10, 2010 12:33 pm

shayney wrote: As said, sidux will continue under a new name and apparently everything else will continue as before but it should be said there seems to be a lot of bad feeling on the forum between everyone - devs, users and foundation members (some of whom are also devs and users to confuse things further ).

I would say the future is far from certain for sidux

What's the new name? I seem to recall this was similar to the kanotix/sidix split way back when.
-Hinto

shayney · Post by **shayney** » Fri Sep 10, 2010 1:11 pm

@ altair4

Done. Also added that the problem affects ext partitions.

@ hinto

The kanotix situation was in that there were disagreements between the "boss" kano and the other developers.
He was considering switching to a different base and there hadn't been a release for some time so they decided to fork off in their own direction, the way they felt kanotix *should* have been heading.

This one seems like a fight between everyone involved though for the most part the devs themselves are still together on things so that might well save the disto.

A new name has been decided but they are keeping it quiet for now. I'm assuming they want to wait until a final iso is ready for release first.
If there is any good to come from this, mint debian may be able to pick up some of the sidux users who are either completely fed up of the whole situation or are worried about the outcome and are more concerned they will have a live distro to use.

deleted · Post by **deleted** » Fri Sep 10, 2010 1:26 pm

shayney wrote: If there is any good to come from this, mint debian may be able to pick up some of the sidux users who are either completely fed up of the whole situation or are worried about the outcome and are more concerned they will have a live distro to use.

They (Linux Mint) picked me up

. I was a long time user of Kanotix and sidux (about 6-7 years). I've been a happy Linux Mint user since LM 7.
-Hinto

bug67 · Post by **bug67** » Sat Sep 11, 2010 10:34 am

omns wrote:bug67 you seem to have the same intel card that I have one one of my machines. To solve this problem I had to remove the xserver-xorg-video-nouveau and xserver-xorg-video-nv packages then run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. I restarted X and all was well. I don't fully understand why this works as the removed packages aren't intel related.

I don't know how to do any of the stuff you suggest. When I get some time (if I don't get frustrated and re-install Helena) I may poke around a bit and see if I can figure it out. I saw a thread elsewhere about Compiz not working. There was some terminal commands given as a solution and a similar GLX error was returned. Compiz isn't working on my machine either. Wonder if this is all related.

shayney · Post by **shayney** » Sat Sep 11, 2010 10:44 am

Just to follow up the side discussion on sidux, the new name has been announced as "aptosid"

I have to say in my opinion it is an awful name and sort of looks like a jumble of letters in one of those anagram puzzles in the newspaper.
When I first saw it I also read it backwards to see if there was some clever or humorous intent to the name but it seems not.

kmb42vt · Post by **kmb42vt** » Sat Sep 11, 2010 10:59 am

shayney wrote:Just to follow up the side discussion on sidux, the new name has been announced as "aptosid"

I have to say in my opinion it is an awful name and sort of looks like a jumble of letters in one of those anagram puzzles in the newspaper.
When I first saw it I also read it backwards to see if there was some clever or humorous intent to the name but it seems not.

I was following the Sidux forums thread on this and no one seemed to take aptosid seriously. Looks like they actually did. To me it sounds like the name of an antacid.

secipolla · Post by **secipolla** » Sat Sep 11, 2010 11:35 am

bug67 wrote:
omns wrote:bug67 you seem to have the same intel card that I have one one of my machines. To solve this problem I had to remove the xserver-xorg-video-nouveau and xserver-xorg-video-nv packages then run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. I restarted X and all was well. I don't fully understand why this works as the removed packages aren't intel related.
I don't know how to do any of the stuff you suggest. When I get some time (if I don't get frustrated and re-install Helena) I may poke around a bit and see if I can figure it out. I saw a thread elsewhere about Compiz not working. There was some terminal commands given as a solution and a similar GLX error was returned. Compiz isn't working on my machine either. Wonder if this is all related.

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sudo apt-get purge xserver-xorg-video-nouveau xserver-xorg-video-nv

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sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg

Reboot.

You may also check if libgl1-mesa-dri is installed

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apt-cache policy libgl1-mesa-dri

if it isn't, then

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sudo apt-get install libgl1-mesa-dri

and reboot.

bug67 · Post by **bug67** » Sat Sep 11, 2010 12:00 pm

secipolla wrote:...

Thanks!