UPDATE PACK 8 FEEDBACK THREAD

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Re: UPDATE PACK 8 FEEDBACK THREAD

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Ok, I just found out from Killer de bug Clem is traveling, no worries then, I'm just glad he's ok. :)
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Re: UPDATE PACK 8 FEEDBACK THREAD

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mockturtl wrote:
liveup wrote:
no3D.png
Cinammon acceleration is not available....
What card / driver? Run:

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$ inxi -G
I have the same problem

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Graphics:  Card Intel Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller X.Org 1.14.3 Res: 1366x768@60.0hz 
           GLX Renderer Mesa DRI Mobile Intel® GM45 Express Chipset  GLX Version 2.1 Mesa 9.2.2
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Re: UPDATE PACK 8 FEEDBACK THREAD

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mockturtl wrote:
liveup wrote:
no3D.png
Cinammon acceleration is not available....
What card / driver? Run:

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$ inxi -G

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 $ inxi -G
Graphics:  Card Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] RS880 [Radeon HD 4250] X.Org 1.14.3 Res: 1366x768@59.8hz 
           GLX Renderer Gallium 0.4 on AMD RS880 GLX Version 3.0 Mesa 9.2.2
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Re: UPDATE PACK 8 FEEDBACK THREAD

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BTW, the newer version of inxi is available:

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$ apt-cache policy inxi
inxi:
  Installed: 1.9.14-1
  Candidate: 1.9.14-1
  Version table:
 *** 1.9.14-1 0
        500 http://debian.lth.se/lmde/incoming/ testing/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     1.4.23-1 0
        700 http://ftp.mgts.by/pub/linuxmint/packages/ debian/import amd64 Packages
For some reason Clem didn't remove the old version from the repos (and I asked about it), so because of the priorities most users have it (unless they explicitly tell apt-get to install the newer one).

I recommend installing the newer one:

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sudo apt-get install -t testing inxi
Here's the output from it on my system:

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$ inxi -G
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA G84 [GeForce 8600 GS] 
           X.Org: 1.14.3 drivers: nouveau (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1280x1024@75.0hz 
           GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on NV84 GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 9.2.2
or with additional parameter:

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$ inxi -Gx
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA G84 [GeForce 8600 GS] bus-ID: 01:00.0 
           X.Org: 1.14.3 drivers: nouveau (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1280x1024@75.0hz 
           GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on NV84 GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 9.2.2 Direct Rendering: Yes
The latter is better since it shows you whether the direct rendering is working or not.
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Re: UPDATE PACK 8 FEEDBACK THREAD

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Hi everyone,

Sorry I had to leave in a hurry for family reasons. I'm back and ready to work this morning. I might need your help to summarize the issues and lobby me a bit on the most urgent ones :)

While I was away, Fred worked on the next set of LMDE ISOs. In particular we got EFI/GPT support working out of the box.
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No worries Clem. You had the right to take some time for you ;)

I will make a summary of the issues. Just note, that MDM 1.4 is not in LMDE repo for now ;)
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Re: UPDATE PACK 8 FEEDBACK THREAD

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Honestly, I was worried :)
Is everything alright?

I've summarized video drivers issues earlier in this post. Follow the links there. NVidia drivers work fine for some users and show glitches for some others, so it's not clear what version to pack for UP8. ATI drivers should be pulled in from Testing. ATI legacy drivers are history, so it should be mentioned in the UP notes - users will probably have to remove them before upgrading the system. I actually wish mintUpdate could do such pre-upgrade stuff automatically like SolydXK's update manager does. (At least, I think it does because I've read about it in their UP release notes.)
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Re: UPDATE PACK 8 FEEDBACK THREAD

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This is a summary of all the issue found in UP8

MDM 1.4 is not in the repo.


Critical: Graphic drivers:

Summary for graphics by Monsta



Confirmed:

This bug concerns people with UP6 trying to upgrade to UP8: An upgrade of libpango from 1.30 to 1.36 causes the plymouth initramfs hook to fail:
For Virtualbox users: a combination of Guest Additions < 4.2.18 and kernel 3.11 triggers this bug


Packages older in packages.linuxmint:

apt-daemon and others can be removed from packages.linuxmint.com
Inxi is older in packages.linuxmint than in testing
Banshee is also concerned
gtk3-engines-unico should be remove from UP8. Too much users stuck with it...


Not confirmed:
bug with libc6
Pulse audio kill by UP8? (solution here again)
libpng12-0 can break during upgrade


Not critical:
Hal is depreciated
Bug with Cinnamon 2.0? Can someone reproduce this?
Nemo-preview and nemo-terminal are not installable in Cinnamon 2.0
fontconfig-config 2.11.0-2 has a stupid typo bug.


Others:
Monsta wrote:
clem wrote:- mint-meta-codecs fixed and renamed as mint-meta-debian-codecs.
I see mint-meta-codecs is a transitional package now, and on upgrade it installed mint-flashplugin-steam and mint-meta-debian-codecs. When I removed mint-meta-codecs after that, it turned out that mint-flashplugin-steam and mint-meta-debian-codecs are marked as auto-installed, and now apt-get suggests to use autoremove on them. I know that I can unmark them using aptitude, but I just wanted to ask if anything should be done about that (e.g. write in UP notes about it so the users won't remove them accidentally when running apt-get autoremove).
http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 40#p810140
http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 40#p810095
http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 40#p810116
2014.01.13
The following packages are no longer needed in the Cinnamon edition:

gnome-session-common gnome-utils-common gnome-colors-common gnome-control-center nautilus gnome-screensaver gnome-sushi gnome-session-fallback gnome-session-bin gnome-session-flashback gnome-session-fallback gnome-themes gnome-user-guide gnome-control-center-data gnome-wise-icon-theme
All these packages are installed by UP8, even if there are not present in the system when the upgrade starts...


Monsta, please feel free to complete or change things... :D
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Re: UPDATE PACK 8 FEEDBACK THREAD

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I've made a little summary :)

Severity: minor Severity: normal Severity: major I've probably missed something, maybe killer de bug will point out what's missing :)
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Re: UPDATE PACK 8 FEEDBACK THREAD

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Dammit, simultaneous posting :D
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It's ok, I think we have all the issues with our posts :wink:
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If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
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I'm not sure about the kernel... it may take another two weeks to test it thoroughly. And 3.11 seems to work fine.
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Your MintUpdate icon is still so huge... But it's the same on a lot of themes ! :lol:


edit: it's pretty cold in your town... :mrgreen:
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and you have -14 C !!!!!!! Oh my god!!!!
i will stop complain about my -2 C :lol:
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Re: UPDATE PACK 8 FEEDBACK THREAD

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I'm in the process of breaking a lot of things...

- mint-mirrors
- mintupdate-debian
- mintsources
- mint-debian-mirrors
- software-properties-gtk

You might want to give me an hour before everything gets in order here :)
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No way, I'm not installing that. It wants to install mint-mirrors, and I've already reported that this package should be removed from the repo.
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Yes, don't.. just yet. I'm fixing all that as we speak Monsta. I'll post here when the coast is clear.
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OK. It's ready. mintupdate-debian caught up with mintupdate, and mintsources was ported to LMDE. Mirrors management was improved online (in our own admin interfaces) and is now handled the same in Mint and in LMDE.

- mint-debian-mirrors is no longer needed
- software-properties-gtk is no longer needed
- mint-meta-debian-core now depends on mintsources (which is the UI to choose mirrors) and on mint-mirrors (which establishes the list of active mirrors for both Mint and LMDE)

I tested the upgrade path with both mintupdate and apt-get. Everything works fine but some info is important here:

- mintsources generates /etc/apt/sources.list.d/official-packages-repositories.list
- mintsources doesn't support switching to incoming (which arguably can be considered a good thing)

So, after a dist-upgrade you should:

- Launch mintsources (which will generate your /etc/apt/sources.list.d/official-packages-repositories.list)
- Empty the content of /etc/apt/sources.list (otherwise you'll have duplicates)
- Remove mint-debian-mirrors and software-properties-gtk
- Edit /etc/apt/sources.list.d/official-packages-repositories.list to switch back to incoming:

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deb http://packages.linuxmint.com debian main upstream import incoming
deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/incoming testing main contrib non-free
deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/incoming/security testing/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/incoming/multimedia testing main non-free
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Re: UPDATE PACK 8 FEEDBACK THREAD

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Ah, so mint-mirrors is needed after all... alright, but do we need mintupdate (from the Main Edition) in the repos? It doesn't make sense to keep it, we have mintupdate-debian that does all the work.
clem wrote:- Launch mintsources (which will generate your /etc/apt/sources.list.d/official-packages-repositories.list)
- Empty the content of /etc/apt/sources.list (otherwise you'll have duplicates)
- Remove mint-debian-mirrors and software-properties-gtk
Will the users who track Latest have to do the same, manually? Can't it be automated somehow?
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