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Re: MATE 1.18 updates

Postby Monsta » Tue May 02, 2017 2:00 pm

sdibaja wrote:1. when moving items from one panel to another it just shows a black strip, need to log out/log in to get it working

https://github.com/mate-desktop/mate-panel/issues/504

sdibaja wrote:2. when taking an item in the Menu and (right click) "Add launcher to panel" the entire panel freezes, requires reboot.

https://github.com/mate-desktop/mate-panel/issues/305


Sorry for the brief links, I just didn't expect these issues in LMDE. I thought we still have some time to fix them for GTK+ 3.18 (for Mint 18.2), now it looks like GTK+ 3.14 is affected as well.

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Re: MATE 1.18 updates

Postby Monsta » Tue May 02, 2017 2:12 pm

clem wrote:
petko_alov wrote:I'm using GreenLaguna theme with MATE-Faenza icons. The minus sign icon from the selectors in desktop configuration menus (font size, panel size, etc.) is missing and replaced with a red cross.


This is GTK3. There's nothing themes can do to change that.

Well, it doesn't happen with Mint-X and Adwaita. :)
I can reproduce it just by setting GTK+ theme to some of mate-themes, leaving icon theme as is (Mint-X in my case).
I'm in Mint 18.1 now though - apparently it's not just LMDE issue.

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Re: MATE 1.18 updates

Postby Monsta » Tue May 02, 2017 2:18 pm

chrisuk wrote:BTW, I spoke too soon; CPU is back to 1.00 and above at idle

Well, the first thing I would do is to use top or another process monitor to see who's eating CPU :)

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Re: MATE 1.18 updates

Postby chrisuk » Tue May 02, 2017 2:30 pm

Monsta wrote:
chrisuk wrote:BTW, I spoke too soon; CPU is back to 1.00 and above at idle

Well, the first thing I would do is to use top or another process monitor to see who's eating CPU :)


I did... well htop actually - it was caja; but she's been behaving herself for the last hour or so ;) All seems back to normal now... although I'm keeping my eye on memory usage, as one advantage LMDE has over Mint 18 is 200mb+ less memory usage under the same conditions... ATM, it looks like they're almost the same. I'll reboot later and see if the memory creeps up again
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Re: MATE 1.18 updates

Postby chrisuk » Tue May 02, 2017 2:46 pm

JosephM wrote:The icon spacing issue is fixed in Mint-Y in master. With most things in Mate now gtk3 the theme likely won't work well in LMDE.


It's running how it was before the updates, Joseph - I still don't have scrollbars, but I never use them anyway ;)
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Re: MATE 1.18 updates

Postby sdibaja » Tue May 02, 2017 3:18 pm

Monsta wrote:
sdibaja wrote:1. when moving items from one panel to another it just shows a black strip, need to log out/log in to get it working

https://github.com/mate-desktop/mate-panel/issues/504

sdibaja wrote:2. when taking an item in the Menu and (right click) "Add launcher to panel" the entire panel freezes, requires reboot.

https://github.com/mate-desktop/mate-panel/issues/305


Sorry for the brief links, I just didn't expect these issues in LMDE. I thought we still have some time to fix them for GTK+ 3.18 (for Mint 18.2), now it looks like GTK+ 3.14 is affected as well.


:) no problem, thanks for the rapid assistance.
Yup, I too never expected any glitches with LMDE!
Thanks all... Peter
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Re: MATE 1.18 updates

Postby DanielR » Tue May 02, 2017 4:39 pm

Linux Mint Theme - no customisations

Since the update of Mate, the desktop icons for my USB connected drives have grown a bit while all other icons don't seem to have changed in size (see attached image). Furthermore, the icon for YAGF (Graphical frontend for Cuneiform and Tesseract) is huge in the dialog "Open With" and the list of "Other Aplications". In Mint Menu the icon size for YAGF is quite normal.

PS. Caja always starts behind the currently active window when using the assigned keyboard shortcut or Mint Menu. When I start Caja by double-clicking it's desktop icon the Caja window will appear on-top of the previously active window. Nevertheless, when I click on Caja in the Taskbar the Caja window moves to the front and Caja can be used normally (as far as I cant tell for now).

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~ $ inxi -Fxz
System:    Host: nb-8730w Kernel: 3.16.0-4-amd64 x86_64 (64 bit gcc: 4.8.4) Desktop: MATE 1.18.0 (Gtk 3.14.5+4)
           Distro: LinuxMint 2 betsy
Machine:   System: Hewlett-Packard product: HP EliteBook 8730w v: F.13
           Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 30EC v: KBC Version 91.25
           Bios: Hewlett-Packard v: 68PAD Ver. F.13 date: 12/03/2010
CPU:       Dual core Intel Core2 Duo P8600 (-MCP-) cache: 3072 KB
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 9576
           Clock Speeds: 1: 800 MHz 2: 2401 MHz
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA G94GLM [Quadro FX 2700M] bus-ID: 01:00.0
           Display Server: X.Org 1.16.4 driver: nvidia Resolution: 1920x1200@60.00hz
           GLX Renderer: Quadro FX 2700M/PCIe/SSE2 GLX Version: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 340.101 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio:     Card Intel 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k3.16.0-4-amd64
Network:   Card-1: Intel Ultimate N WiFi Link 5300 driver: iwlwifi v: in-tree: bus-ID: 03:00.0
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
           Card-2: Intel 82567LM Gigabit Network Connection driver: e1000e v: 2.3.2-k port: 80e0 bus-ID: 00:19.0
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 2000.4GB (61.0% used) ID-1: /dev/sda model: WDC_WD10JPLX size: 1000.2GB
           ID-2: USB /dev/sdb model: My_Passport_071A size: 500.1GB
           ID-3: USB /dev/sdc model: My_Book size: 500.1GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 172G used: 20G (13%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2
           ID-2: /home size: 742G used: 325G (47%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda3
           ID-3: swap-1 size: 4.30GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda1
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 38.0C mobo: 30.0C gpu: 0.0:37C
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 181 Uptime: 57 min Memory: 732.2/3930.3MB Init: SysVinit runlevel: 2 Gcc sys: 4.9.2
           Client: Shell (bash 4.3.301) inxi: 2.1.28


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~ $ dpkg -l mate*
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
| Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
|/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name                               Version                Architecture           Description
+++-==================================-======================-======================-=========================================================================
ii  mate-applets                       1.18.1-1+betsy         amd64                  Various applets for the MATE panel
ii  mate-applets-common                1.18.1-1+betsy         all                    Various applets for the MATE panel (common files)
ii  mate-control-center                1.18.1-1+betsy         amd64                  utilities to configure the MATE desktop
ii  mate-control-center-common         1.18.1-1+betsy         all                    utilities to configure the MATE desktop (common files)
ii  mate-desktop                       1.18.0-1+betsy         amd64                  Library with common API for various MATE modules
ii  mate-desktop-common                1.18.0-1+betsy         all                    Library with common API for various MATE modules (common files)
un  mate-desktop-environment           <none>                 <none>                 (no description available)
un  mate-desktop-gnome                 <none>                 <none>                 (no description available)
ii  mate-icon-theme                    1.18.2-1+betsy         all                    MATE Desktop icon theme
ii  mate-media                         1.18.0-1+betsy         amd64                  MATE media utilities
ii  mate-media-common                  1.18.0-1+betsy         all                    MATE media utilities (common files)
un  mate-media-gstreamer               <none>                 <none>                 (no description available)
un  mate-media-pulse                   <none>                 <none>                 (no description available)
ii  mate-menus                         1.18.0-1+betsy         amd64                  implementation of the freedesktop menu specification for MATE
un  mate-netspeed                      <none>                 <none>                 (no description available)
un  mate-netspeed-common               <none>                 <none>                 (no description available)
ii  mate-notification-daemon           1.18.0-1+betsy         amd64                  daemon to display passive popup notifications
ii  mate-notification-daemon-common    1.18.0-1+betsy         all                    daemon to display passive popup notifications (common files)
ii  mate-panel                         1.18.1-2+betsy         amd64                  launcher and docking facility for MATE
ii  mate-panel-common                  1.18.1-2+betsy         all                    launcher and docking facility for MATE (common files)
ii  mate-polkit:amd64                  1.18.0-1+betsy         amd64                  MATE authentication agent for PolicyKit-1
ii  mate-polkit-common                 1.18.0-1+betsy         amd64                  MATE authentication agent for PolicyKit-1 (common files)
ii  mate-power-manager                 1.18.0-1+betsy         amd64                  power management tool for the MATE desktop
ii  mate-power-manager-common          1.18.0-1+betsy         all                    power management tool for the MATE desktop (common files)
ii  mate-screensaver                   1.18.1-1+betsy         amd64                  MATE screen saver and locker
ii  mate-screensaver-common            1.18.1-1+betsy         all                    MATE screen saver and locker (common files)
ii  mate-session-manager               1.18.0-1+betsy         amd64                  Session manager of the MATE desktop environment
ii  mate-settings-daemon               1.18.1-1+betsy         amd64                  daemon handling the MATE session settings
ii  mate-settings-daemon-common        1.18.1-1+betsy         all                    daemon handling the MATE session settings (common files)
un  mate-settings-daemon-gstreamer     <none>                 <none>                 (no description available)
un  mate-settings-daemon-pulse         <none>                 <none>                 (no description available)
ii  mate-system-monitor                1.18.0-1+betsy         amd64                  Process viewer and system resource monitor for MATE
ii  mate-system-monitor-common         1.18.0-1+betsy         all                    Process viewer and system resource monitor for MATE (common files)
ii  mate-terminal                      1.18.0-1+betsy         amd64                  MATE terminal emulator application
ii  mate-terminal-common               1.18.0-1+betsy         all                    MATE terminal emulator application (common files)
ii  mate-user-guide                    1.18.0-1+betsy         all                    User documentation for MATE Desktop Environment
ii  mate-utils                         1.18.1-1+betsy         amd64                  MATE desktop utilities
ii  mate-utils-common                  1.18.1-1+betsy         all                    MATE desktop utilities (common files)
un  mate-window-manager                <none>                 <none>                 (no description available)

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Re: MATE 1.18 updates

Postby tcflanagan » Tue May 02, 2017 8:34 pm

Using the Clearlooks controls and ClearlooksRe window border, my title bars are grey, rather than blue, as they should be. Also, icons in the task bar are all vertically cropped (they weren't before the update).

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Re: MATE 1.18 updates

Postby cb474 » Wed May 03, 2017 12:07 am

I still can't get mintmenu to work. I disappeared from my panel after the updates yesterday and the latest updates today did not solve the issue. I have mintmenu 5.7.8.

If I try to re-add mintmenu using the "add to panel" dialogue, nothing happens. I hit the "add" button and nothing appears in the panel. I am able to add other applets without a problem, including the other menu applets.

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Thanks for the futher package updates today that fixed some of the other initial problems.

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Re: MATE 1.18 updates

Postby cb474 » Wed May 03, 2017 2:53 am

tcflanagan wrote:Using the Clearlooks controls and ClearlooksRe window border, my title bars are grey, rather than blue, as they should be. Also, icons in the task bar are all vertically cropped (they weren't before the update).


I think Clearlooks is not compatible with Gtk3, now that Mate has "upgraded" to that. Do you have the TraditionalOk theme? That is (basically, perhaps entirely) a Mate version of Clearlooks that works fine with Gtk3 and gives you the Clearlooks appearance.

Looks like these are all the themes that Mate is maintaining: https://github.com/mate-desktop/mate-th ... top-themes

TraditionalOk seems to be part of the mate-themes package availabe in the LMDE repos, so install that if you don't have it.

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Re: MATE 1.18 updates

Postby clem » Wed May 03, 2017 4:53 am

Monsta wrote:
clem wrote:
petko_alov wrote:I'm using GreenLaguna theme with MATE-Faenza icons. The minus sign icon from the selectors in desktop configuration menus (font size, panel size, etc.) is missing and replaced with a red cross.


This is GTK3. There's nothing themes can do to change that.

Well, it doesn't happen with Mint-X and Adwaita. :)
I can reproduce it just by setting GTK+ theme to some of mate-themes, leaving icon theme as is (Mint-X in my case).
I'm in Mint 18.1 now though - apparently it's not just LMDE issue.


The icons themselves are up to the theme.. but the widget itself changed between GTK2 and GTK3. It used to be a number with two little arrows, it's now a box with a number and - and + buttons.
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Re: MATE 1.18 updates

Postby clem » Wed May 03, 2017 4:57 am

cb474 wrote:I still can't get mintmenu to work. I disappeared from my panel after the updates yesterday and the latest updates today did not solve the issue. I have mintmenu 5.7.8.

If I try to re-add mintmenu using the "add to panel" dialogue, nothing happens. I hit the "add" button and nothing appears in the panel. I am able to add other applets without a problem, including the other menu applets.

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Thanks for the futher package updates today that fixed some of the other initial problems.


Try to test it from git... like this:

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apt install git
git clone https://github.com/linuxmint/mintmenu.git
cd mintmenu
./test


This should run mintmenu in a window and you should be able to see errors/issues in the terminal if it fails to launch.
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Re: MATE 1.18 updates

Postby JosephM » Wed May 03, 2017 4:58 am

tcflanagan wrote:Using the Clearlooks controls and ClearlooksRe window border, my title bars are grey, rather than blue, as they should be. Also, icons in the task bar are all vertically cropped (they weren't before the update).

The move of Mate to Gtk3 means themes need to be updated to properly support it. Things like Mate panel now rely on different theming then they used to.
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Re: MATE 1.18 updates

Postby cb474 » Wed May 03, 2017 5:15 am

clem wrote:Try to test it from git... like this:

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apt install git
git clone https://github.com/linuxmint/mintmenu.git
cd mintmenu
./test


This should run mintmenu in a window and you should be able to see errors/issues in the terminal if it fails to launch.

Thanks for the help.

I ran the test version from a terminal window and it launched in its own separate tiny window from which it worked fine. So it did not fail to launch. But I did get some errors. This was the output:

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mintmenu$ ./test
Loading MintMenuAppletFactory::MintMenuApplet

(mate-panel-test-applets:7199): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_variant_new_string: assertion 'string != NULL' failed

(mate-panel-test-applets:7199): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_variant_new_variant: assertion 'value != NULL' failed

(mate-panel-test-applets:7199): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_variant_get_type: assertion 'value != NULL' failed

(mate-panel-test-applets:7199): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_variant_type_is_subtype_of: assertion 'g_variant_type_check (type)' failed

(mate-panel-test-applets:7199): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_variant_builder_add_value: assertion '!GVSB(builder)->expected_type || g_variant_is_of_type (value, GVSB(builder)->expected_type)' failed

(mate-panel-test-applets:7199): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_variant_builder_end: assertion 'GVSB(builder)->offset >= GVSB(builder)->min_items' failed

(mate-panel-test-applets:7199): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_variant_get_type: assertion 'value != NULL' failed

(mate-panel-test-applets:7199): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_variant_type_is_subtype_of: assertion 'g_variant_type_check (type)' failed

(mate-panel-test-applets:7199): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_variant_builder_add_value: assertion '!GVSB(builder)->expected_type || g_variant_is_of_type (value, GVSB(builder)->expected_type)' failed

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Re: MATE 1.18 updates

Postby clem » Wed May 03, 2017 5:40 am

ok try to reset your panel then:

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mate-panel --reset


And then logout, log back in.
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Re: MATE 1.18 updates

Postby titetanium » Wed May 03, 2017 12:34 pm

@clem,

I did the mate-panel --reset command and logged out/back in after it reset my panels. However, the notification icons are greyed out and spaced out as the others have stated. I'm wondering if this is theme related as opposed to a change in gtk versions? I'm using paper/vertec-dark customized theme and it's messed up somehow.

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Re: MATE 1.18 updates

Postby JosephM » Wed May 03, 2017 2:33 pm

titetanium wrote:@clem,

I did the mate-panel --reset command and logged out/back in after it reset my panels. However, the notification icons are greyed out and spaced out as the others have stated. I'm wondering if this is theme related as opposed to a change in gtk versions? I'm using paper/vertec-dark customized theme and it's messed up somehow.

Did you test using Mint-X? As noted above themes need updating for some of the Mate stuff since it now uses the gtk3 theme vs. the gtk2 theme. Since LMDE uses a fairly old gtk3 version I'm not sure how many 3rd party themes will properly support it.
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Re: MATE 1.18 updates

Postby drt » Wed May 03, 2017 4:53 pm

I have a desktop running LMDE that got some updates yesterday. In the update it said that some packages could not be downloaded but I continued anyway. Today the desktop is not putting up the desktop except for the background picture. The HPLIP program did pop up a message: No system tray detected in this system. Looking at this thread I used dpkg -l | grep mate | grep betsy and found 4 packages are 1.16 while the rest are 1.18. On this laptop that wasn't updated yesterday all the packages are still 1.16. So the problem must be the four 1.16 packages on the desktop. The packages are:

gir1.2-mate-panel 1.16.0-1+betsy i386
libmate-panel-applet-4-1 1.16.0-1+betsy i386
mate-panel 1.16.0-1+betsy i386
mate-panel-common 1.16.0-1+betsy all

I think it is a safe bet that these packages are the problem. apt-get update does not do the job. Can somebody tell me how to get them?

Thanks in advance,

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Re: MATE 1.18 updates

Postby fblais » Wed May 03, 2017 5:38 pm

cb474 wrote:
tcflanagan wrote:Using the Clearlooks controls and ClearlooksRe window border, my title bars are grey, rather than blue, as they should be. Also, icons in the task bar are all vertically cropped (they weren't before the update).

I think Clearlooks is not compatible with Gtk3, now that Mate has "upgraded" to that.

Clearlooks-phenix-theme is a GTK3 port of Clearlooks and is available in the repo.

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Re: MATE 1.18 updates

Postby fblais » Wed May 03, 2017 5:44 pm

Hi Clément.
I'm a bit surprised this upgrade doesn't seem to have been tested and fixed before it's released.
I may be wrong of course.

I have no big problem here however.
I've tried a few themes and they don't work well so I'm sticking with Mint-X-Blue for the moment, while this is fixed.
On some themes, I get black text on the dark panel, so it's unreadable. (LX-Light-Brave for instance, available on opendesktop.org)
It was fine before the upgrade to Mate 1.18.

Merci,
François


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