Penn wrote:I would still have liked to have seen LMDE 3 released in what I consider a time appropriate implementation, but that ship has sailed.
Yeah, patience is required. We've been more and more focused on LMDE3 since Stretch was released more than 6 months ago. But LMDE2 is still supported.
Required? Only if a person feels the "M" for Mint is necessary AND doesn't have a need for certain more recent software versions. A few on this forum have already stated they made the switch to Stretch and for each of us who have said it there are probably quite a few more who have switched without saying it.
In the case of the machine I have running Stretch, there was a program that needs a new lib version for which there is no backward compatibility to the Jessie base so I can't get the newer version of the program I "needed" (yes, I'm aware it is actually a want I but phrased that way for a reason). However, it is sufficient for me to only have it on that machine which I use for limited purposes. In that case it works out since one of those limited purposes at that time (not any more) was experimenting so Stretch started as an experiment for me but I like it now.
As for the "M", the only thing I miss from Mint is the update manager on that computer. I had it working at one point by several alterations to it after install from a deb (haven't tried altering source and compiling) but when it stopped working I just didn't have time to play around with it. The other Mint tools I like (mintstick and xed) install from deb files easily in Stretch.
The laptop that still has LMDE 2 is partially a matter of that "patience" and the fact I am not someone who thinks a higher version number means better. Even so, if I was doing a new install on a daily driver as that one is, it would be Stretch over the outdated LMDE2. So, that doesn't change the fact that it would be nice to have the Debian balance of newer versions but not at the cost of stability.
Which leads me to
I ended up moving to Arch.
Hello Fred. I don't really understand how could you switch from LMDE2 to Arch with so different politics.
I agree. I can see Arch as an experiment or a change in what you want from a distro but not as a direct replacement for the stability of Debian/Mint.
You sound like a developer with your above phrasing. If so, it is always nice to hear from you guys on the forum.[/quote]