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<SOLVED> Modifying Users and Groups

Postby Andy-A » Wed Nov 16, 2016 8:59 am

I was just going to modify some permissions for the others in the family, and the 'Users and Groups' app doesn't open.
Tried from Control Centre and from Administration menu, click 'Users and Groups' & nothing happens?
Same problem on both PC and laptop (both LMDE2 64 bit with MATE 1.16).

Has anyone else had this problem?
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LMDE2-64, MATE 1.16, on a 10 year old PC

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Re: Modifying Users and Groups

Postby kc1di » Wed Nov 16, 2016 9:07 am

Hi don't use lmde here so can't comment on why the usr&group is not working but you can always change permissions and ownership
with the terminal.

Commands are

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chmod
&

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chown

Here are a couple of pages that will help :
http://www.computerhope.com/unix/uchmod.htm

http://www.linfo.org/chown.html
Good Luck ;)
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Re: Modifying Users and Groups

Postby Andy-A » Wed Nov 16, 2016 12:34 pm

The settings I wanted to change relate to whether USB devices mount automatically for the user.
I don't think this can be done in the terminal, it's probably in a small text file somewhere.
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Re: Modifying Users and Groups

Postby Andy-A » Wed Nov 16, 2016 3:48 pm

If I try to run

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mate-users-admin

(which is the command called by the menu item 'Users and Groups'), in a terminal I get

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(mate-users-admin:2894): Gtk-ERROR **: GTK+ 2.x symbols detected. Using GTK+ 2.x and GTK+ 3 in the same process is not supported
Trace/breakpoint trap
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Re: Modifying Users and Groups

Postby kc1di » Thu Nov 17, 2016 7:09 am

I would file a bug report to the Mate People on that one. I know they are trying to integrate Gtk2 & Gtk3 -- maybe this is a bug in the process.

Here is a page that may be helpful in your quest.
https://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/213

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Re: Modifying Users and Groups

Postby Galen10 » Thu Nov 17, 2016 7:15 am

kc1di wrote:I would file a bug report to the Mate People on that one. I know they are trying to integrate Gtk2 & Gtk3 -- maybe this is a bug in the process.

Here is a page that may be helpful in your quest.
https://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/213

good luck


I've just been investigating the same error and having worked out it was a Mate cockup I tried to let them know, but all their forum topics are locked. I guess we'll just have to wait until they fix it - unless there is a way to revert to a working version..

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Re: Modifying Users and Groups

Postby kc1di » Thu Nov 17, 2016 8:45 am

You can file a bug with Ubuntu mate -and let them file it up stream if needed.
you can do so here:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mate
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Re: Modifying Users and Groups

Postby Galen10 » Thu Nov 17, 2016 11:55 am

kc1di wrote:You can file a bug with Ubuntu mate -and let them file it up stream if needed.
you can do so here:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mate


I'm not sure that's appropriate as I'm using Mint Debian - but by reporting it here, I was hoping LMDE might take it upstream. I've since found exactly the same error with mate-shares-admin-pkexec and one with mintback which appears similar (it concerns Gtk, anyway) so it may be that the Mint devs are involved too?

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Re: Modifying Users and Groups

Postby kc1di » Thu Nov 17, 2016 12:27 pm

Hi Bob of course your right-- you should both report it as a bug on the mint - bug tracker here.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/linuxmint

That may spur it on. Most of the Mint Dev do not have time to read the forums but only occasionally.
In any event keep digging you may find the source of the problem and be able to offer a solution or work around.
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Re: Modifying Users and Groups

Postby Andy-A » Thu Nov 17, 2016 3:52 pm

kc1di - I have added the Users and Groups issue to the bug tracker link you provided (not sure if it's the right place though...).

Bob, maybe you could add to it the similar issues.
#1642616 Users and Groups settings will not launch
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Re: Modifying Users and Groups

Postby Galen10 » Sat Nov 19, 2016 7:49 am

Andy-A wrote:kc1di - I have added the Users and Groups issue to the bug tracker link you provided (not sure if it's the right place though...).

Bob, maybe you could add to it the similar issues.
#1642616 Users and Groups settings will not launch


I've added to it.

Regards,

Bob

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Re: Modifying Users and Groups

Postby kc1di » Sat Nov 19, 2016 7:53 am

Bob- Thank You
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Re: Modifying Users and Groups

Postby Galen10 » Mon Nov 21, 2016 11:19 am

Andy-A wrote:I was just going to modify some permissions for the others in the family, and the 'Users and Groups' app doesn't open.
Tried from Control Centre and from Administration menu, click 'Users and Groups' & nothing happens?
Same problem on both PC and laptop (both LMDE2 64 bit with MATE 1.16).

Has anyone else had this problem?


Andy, I've found a way round it for now - on LMDE Betsy anyway. I installed gnome-system-tools, and it gave me duplicate options for all the bits that don't work. Rather than remove the Mate equivalent and risk damaging something else, I just used the main menu editor to hide all the Mate versions and show all the gnome ones.

Regards,

Bob

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Re: Modifying Users and Groups

Postby ciaobello » Wed Nov 23, 2016 9:18 pm

Thx bob, your workaround helps!

Pity that our loving LMDE not gets the same attention as other versions.

BTW, with the live ISO (8.0) everything is still fine ... (i use debian version 8.6 (cat /etc/debian_version))

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Re: <SOLVED> Modifying Users and Groups

Postby Monsta » Tue Dec 06, 2016 1:52 pm

The downside of having a distro with periodic updates in the same repo... well, mate-system-tools was discontinued after MATE 1.8 (did you notice that package version is 1.8.1?), but it wasn't removed from LMDE repos. I'll ask Clem to remove it.

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Re: Modifying Users and Groups

Postby Ramses16 » Tue Dec 20, 2016 5:08 pm

ciaobello wrote:
Pity that our loving LMDE not gets the same attention as other versions.



I recently faced the same issue and am happy having found this workaround -thanks a lot.
If I understand the evidences in the bugtracker correctly the workaround is the final solution as mate-system-tools is discontinued and replaced by the gnome equivalent ?
Concerning the general process, will this issue then be treated at some point the same way by MintUpdate doing the necessary steps automated ?

In either case, frankly speaking I'm a bit concerned how an average user should find his/her way here and get this fixed. Personally I wouldn't regard an issue making half a dozen of system setting apps
inaccessible for weeks now without an update as a minor problem in a GUI driven system. Shouldn't sound harsh, I much appreciate LMDE and the work done on that, things like this make it much harder though to 'advertise' LMDE to the
Ubuntu-addicted.

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Re: Modifying Users and Groups

Postby kevinthefixer » Tue Dec 20, 2016 9:48 pm

Ramses16 wrote:In either case, frankly speaking I'm a bit concerned how an average user should find his/her way here and get this fixed. Personally I wouldn't regard an issue making half a dozen of system setting apps
inaccessible for weeks now without an update as a minor problem in a GUI driven system. Shouldn't sound harsh, I much appreciate LMDE and the work done on that, things like this make it much harder though to 'advertise' LMDE to the
Ubuntu-addicted.


This is why you shouldn't do that. LMDE is advertised as being aimed towards advanced users, not the "Ubuntu-addicted". For most people Linux Mint main edition (Ubuntu-based) is far more suitable.

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Re: <SOLVED> Modifying Users and Groups

Postby shabah » Sun Jan 08, 2017 3:16 am

Hi people,

[EDIT] After some time without dealing with users&groups, I faced the same problem again. What says my workaround with Gtk versions reinstallations was ephemeral. The gnome-system-tools as a replacement for mate-system-tools workaround seems fair enough as a solution...

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