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Hansl
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Please provide Thunderbird 52.9.1 Update

Post by Hansl » Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:30 am

It's out since 20 days now and I do need its fix for a bug that bugs me.
Plus its „Various security fixes“.

Thanks, Hans

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Re: Please provide Thunderbird 52.9.1 Update

Post by jimallyn » Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:25 pm

I have it in Mint 17.3 Cinnamon. What are you using?
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Re: Please provide Thunderbird 52.9.1 Update

Post by ajgringo619 » Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:40 pm

On my Mint 19 system..

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$ dpkg-query -W thunderbird
thunderbird	1:52.9.1+build3-0ubuntu0.18.04.1
I don't use it, so I didn't pay it any attention.
[Mint 19 XFCE, AMD FX-8350 Eight-Core w/16 GB RAM, 4.15.0-34-generic, Nvidia 396.54/GeForce GTX 960]

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Re: Please provide Thunderbird 52.9.1 Update

Post by Hansl » Mon Jul 30, 2018 3:02 pm

Well, this is the LMDE2 forum…  using LMDE2 Mate.

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$ apt policy thunderbird
thunderbird:
  Installed: 52.9.0~linuxmint1+betsy
  Candidate: 52.9.0~linuxmint1+betsy
  Version table:
     1:52.9.1-1~deb8u1 0
        500 http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates/main amd64 Packages
     1:52.8.0-1~deb8u1 0
        500 http://debian.netcologne.de/debian/ jessie/main amd64 Packages
 *** 52.9.0~linuxmint1+betsy 0
        700 http://mirror.netcologne.de/linuxmint/packages/ betsy/upstream amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
Looks ever more as if LMDE is being left behind — even security updates delayed for weeks.

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Re: Please provide Thunderbird 52.9.1 Update

Post by ajgringo619 » Mon Jul 30, 2018 3:11 pm

Hansl wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 3:02 pm
Well, this is the LMDE2 forum…  using LMDE2 Mate.
Didn't even notice! :oops: I only view the "New Posts", never really paying attention to the forum name.
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Re: Please provide Thunderbird 52.9.1 Update

Post by gm10 » Mon Jul 30, 2018 3:29 pm

Hansl wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 3:02 pm
Looks ever more as if LMDE is being left behind — even security updates delayed for weeks.
I think they're busy playing with the LMDE3 beta.

You could just upgrade to the debian version directly, nothing to be gained from the Mint-branded version, anyway.

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Re: Please provide Thunderbird 52.9.1 Update

Post by MrEen » Mon Jul 30, 2018 5:07 pm

I don't know the fix, but I do see the problem:
700 http://mirror.netcologne.de/linuxmint/packages/ betsy/upstream amd64 Packages

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Re: Please provide Thunderbird 52.9.1 Update

Post by Hansl » Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:17 am

That was clear:  the Mint team set a higher priority on its own packages (branding, sponsoring) which is alright so far.
The proper fix is also obvious:  Mint should then provide the current version, hence my request.

Some workarounds come to mind, but they are not the proper fix and require manual tinkering (on half a dozen machines in my case), always with some risk of unintended later consequences:
• forcing apt-get to use jessie/updates/main for Thunderbird
• lowering Mint's priority
• switching TB from Default to Release update channel

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Re: Please provide Thunderbird 52.9.1 Update

Post by gm10 » Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:55 am

Hansl wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:17 am
That was clear:  the Mint team set a higher priority on its own packages (branding, sponsoring) which is alright so far.
The proper fix is also obvious:  Mint should then provide the current version, hence my request.
You are right, of course, but with one exception the developers do not come here to discuss, so all we can do is offer you workarounds or tell you to just wait it out.
You can try to contact the developers on their IRC I believe.

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Re: Please provide Thunderbird 52.9.1 Update

Post by JosephM » Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:37 am

The person who needs to know has been notified.
When I give opinions, they are my own. Not necessarily those of any other Linux Mint developer or the Linux Mint project as a whole.

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Re: Please provide Thunderbird 52.9.1 Update

Post by Hansl » Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:41 am

Thank you!
I understand most work is going into LMDE3 right now (and I'm eagerly awaiting that).
But this also affects security updates for all normal LMDE2 installations…

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Re: Please provide Thunderbird 52.9.1 Update

Post by DanielR » Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:48 am

I have just received the Thunderbird 52.9.1 Update (Level 1 security update) from the Debian Security repository through Update Manager. I'm on LMDE2 Mate 64-bit.

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Re: Please provide Thunderbird 52.9.1 Update

Post by Hansl » Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:19 am

Yes, it's just arrived.  The simple way, by retiring TB from the Mint repos, thus freeing the Debian repos.
A little problem is that the binary has now moved:  from /opt/thunderbird/thunderbird to /usr/bin/thunderbird → /usr/lib/thunderbird/thunderbird.  So user–modified scripts and links may need to be changed, too.

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