When is Linux Mint Stretch/Betsy out?

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Re: When is Linux Mint Stretch/Betsy out?

Postby hd_scania » Sun Sep 03, 2017 1:49 am

Do you mean, the LMDE 3 beta will be ‘‘a year or more’’? :?
sdibaja wrote:
Bolle1961 wrote:
sdibaja wrote:Jessie is getting to be a short timer, so it is time to consider upgrading. But we have a year or more to do that...

Not quite right ;)
https://wiki.debian.org/LTS

"a year or more" ;-)
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Re: When is Linux Mint Stretch/Betsy out?

Postby MintBean » Sun Sep 03, 2017 7:43 am

Clem said a month or two back that there's no current timescale for LMDE3 and as soon as there is it will be announced. Anything beyond that is just speculation.

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Re: [URGENT] When is Linux Mint Stretch/Betsy out?

Postby dcrowder » Mon Sep 04, 2017 2:15 pm

JosephM wrote:
Not very likely to be named LMDE 3 for the next release, and instead will be come back to true versionless like Tumbleweed, Arch, Gentoo etc. :)

That's not happening.

I do not understand the Mint versions of LMDE. By definition, a rolling release has no versions. Arch puts out a new ISO every month for new installations, snapshots not versions.
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Re: [URGENT] When is Linux Mint Stretch/Betsy out?

Postby sdibaja » Mon Sep 04, 2017 3:02 pm

dcrowder wrote:
JosephM wrote:
Not very likely to be named LMDE 3 for the next release, and instead will be come back to true versionless like Tumbleweed, Arch, Gentoo etc. :)

That's not happening.

I do not understand the Mint versions of LMDE. By definition, a rolling release has no versions. Arch puts out a new ISO every month for new installations, snapshots not versions.

LMDE is not a rolling release, and has not been even simi-rolling for several years.
Debian is staged... LMDE uses it as base... When the foundation changes LMDE needs to change with it or go independent.
Mint did actually issue a new LMDE2 ISO recently, but updated original would be the same... it makes that initial update easier.
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Re: When is Linux Mint Stretch/Betsy out?

Postby dcrowder » Mon Sep 04, 2017 4:47 pm

My bad. I did not realize that. According to wikipedia, LMDE1 was semi-rolling release via "release Packs". LMDE2 is not. I ran LMDE1 for a bit back in the day and thought LMDE is still rolling. I guess the main difference from regular Mint is being straight from Debian rather than Ubuntu.
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Re: When is Linux Mint Stretch/Betsy out?

Postby axisofevil » Sat Sep 09, 2017 10:56 am

Is LMDE still being actively developed?
It's a couple of years since the last proper upgrade.

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Re: When is Linux Mint Stretch/Betsy out?

Postby MintBean » Sat Sep 09, 2017 11:07 am

axisofevil wrote:Is LMDE still being actively developed?
It's a couple of years since the last proper upgrade.
Already been answered, to the greatest level of detail you will find anywhere, right here in this thread. Asking again won't change the answer.

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Re: When is Linux Mint Stretch/Betsy out?

Postby hd_scania » Mon Sep 18, 2017 9:38 pm

Within MintBean’s unchanged answer to one, Buster has been these days gone to its alpha 1, and will LMDE 3 be ready to be codebased after the Buster stablilzation a few months ago from now? ;)
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axisofevil wrote:Is LMDE still being actively developed?
It's a couple of years since the last proper upgrade.
Already been answered, to the greatest level of detail you will find anywhere, right here in this thread. Asking again won't change the answer.
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Re: When is Linux Mint Stretch/Betsy out?

Postby killer de bug » Tue Sep 19, 2017 1:39 am

LMDE3 will NOT use Buster. Asking again and again won't change the answer. LMDE is based on Debian Stable.
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Re: When is Linux Mint Stretch/Betsy out?

Postby hd_scania » Sun Sep 24, 2017 4:24 am

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deb http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ stable main contrib
deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib
deb http://extra.linuxmint.com casablanca main
deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org stable main
deb http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/dists/ proposed-updates main contrib
deb http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/dists/ stable-proposed-updates main contrib
deb http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/dists/ stable-updates main contrib
deb http://mirrors.kernel.org/linuxmint-packages/ casablanca main upstream import romeo

At least since LMDE 3 Linux Mint would like to keep it syncing with the latest stable (Debian) distro, like the above sources list. Honestly I look Jessie so aging which users would be recommended to upgrade Stretch over Jessie.
And before I can remove MintSources and Synaptic why I am warned which I am removing essentials?
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Re: When is Linux Mint Stretch/Betsy out?

Postby mike acker » Sun Sep 24, 2017 1:32 pm

there are options for users--

if you feel comfortable adjusting and tinkering in Linux -- you might,-- (a) load a regular dist. and then install a kernel of your preference, or (b) go straight Debian

someplace around here i have the links to get Straight Debian,--

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mike@acker5deb:~$ inxi -F
System:    Host: acker5deb Kernel: 4.9.0-3-amd64 x86_64 (64 bit)
           Desktop: Cinnamon 3.2.7  Distro: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (stretch)


I'm running Straight Debian now; it works just fine. my suggestion: stuff another HD in yer box; try it!!

The Cadre here though have specific objectives in mind -- and they do a super job !!
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Re: When is Linux Mint Stretch/Betsy out?

Postby hd_scania » Mon Sep 25, 2017 2:04 am

It needs to be unchanged to me whether my base installation is Debian OR Linux Mint, the base repo of Debian have an importance to me, which I can also append Qubes, Subgraph, VyOS into my Linux Mint (LMDE), I have also appended the kernel-libre like one built into gNewSense and Trisquel. :)
mike acker wrote:there are options for users--
if you feel comfortable adjusting and tinkering in Linux -- you might,-- (a) load a regular dist. and then install a kernel of your preference, or (b) go straight Debian
someplace around here i have the links to get Straight Debian,--

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mike@acker5deb:~$ inxi -F
System:    Host: acker5deb Kernel: 4.9.0-3-amd64 x86_64 (64 bit)
           Desktop: Cinnamon 3.2.7  Distro: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (stretch)

I'm running Straight Debian now; it works just fine. my suggestion: stuff another HD in yer box; try it!!
The Cadre here though have specific objectives in mind -- and they do a super job !!
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Re: [URGENT] When is Linux Mint Stretch/Betsy out?

Postby Mister.T » Mon Oct 16, 2017 12:11 pm

Not very likely to be named LMDE 3 for the next release, and instead will be come back to true versionless like Tumbleweed, Arch, Gentoo etc. :)


I too would like to see this. A pure rolling release. :mrgreen:
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