HELP-LMDE 3 New Installation Optimum Patirionng Setup?
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HELP-LMDE 3 New Installation Optimum Patirionng Setup?
Hello, I have been using Linux mint for a year now and am interested in using LMDE 3 on my desktop. I have a 1TB HD and 10 GB of ram. As the Linux Mint 18 & 19 have automatic partitioning during setup along with the option for LVM which I prefer to use if not counter-indicated for this distribution of Linux, I am at a loss for how to partition my HD for this installation. My interests with this system are to test out/experiment with many different software and have 3-4 different operating systems testing in a VirtualBox Environment. So I want to set it up for the heaviest/optimal use in its portioning possible. Any other suggestions will be much appreciated here. And while I know my way around GParted OK, I don't know Linux well, so a step-by-sep would be a boon for me. Side question, why doesn't this distro have the same automatic partitioning setup as the standard Linux Mint/Ubuntu style does? Thanks, Jeff
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Re: HELP-LMDE 3 New Installation Optimum Patirionng Setup?
I would, given your stated objectives, do the following:fallendaemon wrote: ⤴Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:35 pmSo I want to set it up for the heaviest/optimal use in its portioning possible. Any other suggestions will be much appreciated here. And while I know my way around GParted OK, I don't know Linux well, so a step-by-sep would be a boon for me.
- Backup any user data you want to keep to external media/disk
- Create a new partition table - gpt
- Create 4 partitions:
- /swap ==> about 10GB
- / ==> about 50GB
- /home ==> about 5GB
- /Data ==> the balance, mounted at /mnt/Data
- Install LMDE per normal, but use the above partitions, don't let the installer do it's own thing
- Create symlinks in your $(USER) folder to folders you create in /Data
- Recover your data that you backed up in step #1, writing it to /Data
The short answer is that LMDE isn't LM/Ubuntu.fallendaemon wrote: ⤴Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:35 pmSide question, why doesn't this distro have the same automatic partitioning setup as the standard Linux Mint/Ubuntu style does?
A more complete answer might be that LMDE has it's roots in Debian, a distro that is better suited to those that don't need a lot of hand-holding. Additionally, LMDE doesn't get quite the same amount of love and TLC that is given to LM. LMDE is a fallback position should something happen with upstream Ubuntu that Clem et. al. would find objectionable and/or if Ubuntu should "disappear" from the GNU/Linux landscape.
Re: HELP-LMDE 3 New Installation Optimum Patirionng Setup?
Just read the above post. Have successfully backed up my files, etc. Now ready to install LMDE3 as soon as power is restored to the homes of the "family refugees" we are housing following the high winds and torrential rains from Michael since their power is still out. Greensboro, N.C.
QUESTION RE; PARTITIONING LMDE3: I will put LMDE3 next to my Windows 10 partition, but I use LMDE over 99% of time.
WHAT IS THE BEST ORDER TO PLACE THE 4 PARTITIONS YOU OUTLINED IN YOUR REPLY ON THIS POST?
Thanks,
tlcmd
QUESTION RE; PARTITIONING LMDE3: I will put LMDE3 next to my Windows 10 partition, but I use LMDE over 99% of time.
WHAT IS THE BEST ORDER TO PLACE THE 4 PARTITIONS YOU OUTLINED IN YOUR REPLY ON THIS POST?
Thanks,
tlcmd
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Re: HELP-LMDE 3 New Installation Optimum Patirionng Setup?
You won't notice the difference where you put the partitions, unless you making exceptionally heavy use of the disk.
I tend to put /swap far away as it probably won't get any use if you have 10GB of RAM.
Why are you are only putting 5GB (is that right?) in /home and creating symlinks into /data.
You could just have a big /home directory and forget the symlinking - unless there is a very special reason for this.
I tend to put /swap far away as it probably won't get any use if you have 10GB of RAM.
Why are you are only putting 5GB (is that right?) in /home and creating symlinks into /data.
You could just have a big /home directory and forget the symlinking - unless there is a very special reason for this.
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Re: HELP-LMDE 3 New Installation Optimum Patirionng Setup?
You're likely to never need swap unless you plan to hibernate the machine.
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Re: HELP-LMDE 3 New Installation Optimum Patirionng Setup?
Arg625:
More help and probably more dumb questions. Apreciate your patience.Am getting ready for my 4th or 5th install on LMDE3 since all the rest are screwed up and have a few simple questions:
I have 1.3 TB reserved for LMDE3. I notice you suggest 4 partitions
swap: to which I will assign 12 Gigs since I already have 12 Gigs of Ram.
/: how much space would you dedicate here?
Home: recommended space?
Data: what would a "data" partition be used for? I though Home was for files and / for programs including LMDE3.
Where would you put grub?
Thank you (remember I have a quad core Athlon chip, 12 Gigs of ram and 1.3 TB to put LMDE3 in.
Again, thanks for the help
tlcmd
More help and probably more dumb questions. Apreciate your patience.Am getting ready for my 4th or 5th install on LMDE3 since all the rest are screwed up and have a few simple questions:
I have 1.3 TB reserved for LMDE3. I notice you suggest 4 partitions
swap: to which I will assign 12 Gigs since I already have 12 Gigs of Ram.
/: how much space would you dedicate here?
Home: recommended space?
Data: what would a "data" partition be used for? I though Home was for files and / for programs including LMDE3.
Where would you put grub?
Thank you (remember I have a quad core Athlon chip, 12 Gigs of ram and 1.3 TB to put LMDE3 in.
Again, thanks for the help
tlcmd
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Re: HELP-LMDE 3 New Installation Optimum Patirionng Setup?
I have a 4 core processor, 8GB & 2 x 1TB disks (so a little bit over-specified).
I do have a / partition which includes nearly all subdirectories for system programs etc
I have a 4GB swap partition - but it rarely gets more than 2MB in it.
/home contains several users and all user written scripts, data files, documents etc
/home is about 200GB but could be bigger.
Extra partitions are useful for some extra organisation - but very few symlinks!
I have an extra partition of about 600GB solely for storing videos.
Additionally, I do backup /home to a separate partition of about 150GB, using a differential backup method.
[ This is not secure and it does get copied to external storage ]
But really, you choose your own configuration.
When it asks where you want to boot from you just give it the disk it should boot from.
The install will handle the proper placing of the grub software.
I do have a / partition which includes nearly all subdirectories for system programs etc
I have a 4GB swap partition - but it rarely gets more than 2MB in it.
/home contains several users and all user written scripts, data files, documents etc
/home is about 200GB but could be bigger.
Extra partitions are useful for some extra organisation - but very few symlinks!
I have an extra partition of about 600GB solely for storing videos.
Additionally, I do backup /home to a separate partition of about 150GB, using a differential backup method.
[ This is not secure and it does get copied to external storage ]
But really, you choose your own configuration.
When it asks where you want to boot from you just give it the disk it should boot from.
The install will handle the proper placing of the grub software.
Re: HELP-LMDE 3 New Installation Optimum Patirionng Setup?
What I'd do in your case is have partitions like the following:
Hope this is of some use.
- 12.5GB swap
To make sure there's enough in case you need to hibernate the system. - 50GB /
This should be sufficient for all the software you're likely to need; hopefully flatpaks etc. too. - 25GB /home
This would mainly be used to store your settings, current documents and data for projects you are working on; this should allow sufficient space for temporary files e.g. video editing. - Balance for /DATA or whatever you want to call it, usually mounted under /mnt/
Used for more permanent storage e.g. video and music collections, finished projects, photos etc.. This can be left as-is during subsequent reinstallations.
Hope this is of some use.
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Re: HELP-LMDE 3 New Installation Optimum Patirionng Setup?
BG406,
Thanks. Dumb Doc has Hopefully only 3 more "Mickey Mouse" questions:
1) I have over 40 Gigs of music files plus other basic files from pictures to old radio shows. How do I know or tell LMDE3 to put them into the DATA partition?
2) Which is the preferred partition in which to install Grub?
3) With 1.3 TB for LMDE3, why limit HOME to 25 GB and why even set up a huge DATA partition when HOME would also (I assume) be a permanent storage for the . video and music collections, finished projects, photos etc.
Obviously, I want to do a fair job on this next install of LMDE3 as well as UNDERSTAND the rational for the difference between the HOME and DATA partitions. I will be backing up from a external HDD (Verbatim).
Thanks for your patience and assistance.
tlcmd
Thanks. Dumb Doc has Hopefully only 3 more "Mickey Mouse" questions:
1) I have over 40 Gigs of music files plus other basic files from pictures to old radio shows. How do I know or tell LMDE3 to put them into the DATA partition?
2) Which is the preferred partition in which to install Grub?
3) With 1.3 TB for LMDE3, why limit HOME to 25 GB and why even set up a huge DATA partition when HOME would also (I assume) be a permanent storage for the . video and music collections, finished projects, photos etc.
Obviously, I want to do a fair job on this next install of LMDE3 as well as UNDERSTAND the rational for the difference between the HOME and DATA partitions. I will be backing up from a external HDD (Verbatim).
Thanks for your patience and assistance.
tlcmd
Re: HELP-LMDE 3 New Installation Optimum Patirionng Setup?
Sir you should make 3 separate new posts for each of your 3 questions. Here in the comments on another person's post is unlikely to be read and answered.tlcmd wrote: ⤴Fri Oct 19, 2018 4:24 pm BG406,
Thanks. Dumb Doc has Hopefully only 3 more "Mickey Mouse" questions:
1) I have over 40 Gigs of music files plus other basic files from pictures to old radio shows. How do I know or tell LMDE3 to put them into the DATA partition?
2) Which is the preferred partition in which to install Grub?
3) With 1.3 TB for LMDE3, why limit HOME to 25 GB and why even set up a huge DATA partition when HOME would also (I assume) be a permanent storage for the . video and music collections, finished projects, photos etc.
Obviously, I want to do a fair job on this next install of LMDE3 as well as UNDERSTAND the rational for the difference between the HOME and DATA partitions. I will be backing up from a external HDD (Verbatim).
Thanks for your patience and assistance.
tlcmd
3 separate new posts
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Re: HELP-LMDE 3 New Installation Optimum Patirionng Setup?
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Re: HELP-LMDE 3 New Installation Optimum Patirionng Setup?
I agree too. Let's hope that the OP fallendaemon finds useful info in this thread & hasn't been put off by the distractions! I'm sure that does happen sometimes.
I see new threads have been started, so I'll exit this one until the OP replies.
I see new threads have been started, so I'll exit this one until the OP replies.
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Re: HELP-LMDE 3 New Installation Optimum Patirionng Setup?
Why would you create a /Data partition that is separate from the /Home partition and then create symlinks back to /Home/<user>? Especially when you create yet another mount point at /mnt?srq2625 wrote: ⤴Wed Oct 03, 2018 6:10 amI would, given your stated objectives, do the following:fallendaemon wrote: ⤴Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:35 pmSo I want to set it up for the heaviest/optimal use in its portioning possible. Any other suggestions will be much appreciated here. And while I know my way around GParted OK, I don't know Linux well, so a step-by-sep would be a boon for me.
- Backup any user data you want to keep to external media/disk
- Create a new partition table - gpt
- Create 4 partitions:
- /swap ==> about 10GB
- / ==> about 50GB
- /home ==> about 5GB
- /Data ==> the balance, mounted at /mnt/Data
- Install LMDE per normal, but use the above partitions, don't let the installer do it's own thing
- Create symlinks in your $(USER) folder to folders you create in /Data
- Recover your data that you backed up in step #1, writing it to /Data
The short answer is that LMDE isn't LM/Ubuntu.fallendaemon wrote: ⤴Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:35 pmSide question, why doesn't this distro have the same automatic partitioning setup as the standard Linux Mint/Ubuntu style does?
A more complete answer might be that LMDE has it's roots in Debian, a distro that is better suited to those that don't need a lot of hand-holding. Additionally, LMDE doesn't get quite the same amount of love and TLC that is given to LM. LMDE is a fallback position should something happen with upstream Ubuntu that Clem et. al. would find objectionable and/or if Ubuntu should "disappear" from the GNU/Linux landscape.
If /Data is on the same physical drive, or even if it isn't, just make it a separate partition but under the /Home directory structure and then you have a single point of reference for backing up and restoring all your user data.
Re: HELP-LMDE 3 New Installation Optimum Patirionng Setup?
Making a separate partition and mounting it in /mnt facilitates the possibility of multiple users.jglen490 wrote: ⤴Tue Nov 13, 2018 5:57 pmWhy would you create a /Data partition that is separate from the /Home partition and then create symlinks back to /Home/<user>? Especially when you create yet another mount point at /mnt?
If /Data is on the same physical drive, or even if it isn't, just make it a separate partition but under the /Home directory structure and then you have a single point of reference for backing up and restoring all your user data.
Re: HELP-LMDE 3 New Installation Optimum Patirionng Setup?
As does /home/Data ...
Plus, it will be possible to back up all of /home in one package.
Nobody's required to do that, but it does present some advantages.
Plus, it will be possible to back up all of /home in one package.
Nobody's required to do that, but it does present some advantages.