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How can I change Window backgrounds in LMDE?

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How can I change Window backgrounds in LMDE?
They are currently bright white, but I don't want to install a non-standard theme that does crazy things to my desktop:-
Current look (as an example):-

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Re: How can I change Window backgrounds in LMDE?

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Most easily via 'mintwelcome'
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Re: How can I change Window backgrounds in LMDE?

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I wish it were that easy - must admit I ignored it on the upgrade.

I can choose from a range of colours for folder style icons, but only bright white or almost black for the background on which the icons sit.
So some progress - but the welcome screen changed my icon theme from Mint-X to Mint-Y - I expect that must be a bug(?).
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Re: How can I change Window backgrounds in LMDE?

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Cinnamon only comes pre-configured with the light and dark window background.
If you want anything else, you'd have to manually edit the cinnamon.css file accordingly.
Copy over the theme you are using from /usr/share/themes to ~/.themes and edit the said .css file there.

P.S.
the window (nemo) background is set by the gtk.css not by the cinnamon.css
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Re: How can I change Window backgrounds in LMDE?

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Thanks - I'm not even going to attempt to change the correct bits of a 1600+ lines of cinnamon.css though! :D
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Re: How can I change Window backgrounds in LMDE?

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axisofevil wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 5:36 pm
I wish it were that easy - must admit I ignored it on the upgrade.
It's still there. Click Menu, then type Welcome into the search box.
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Re: How can I change Window backgrounds in LMDE?

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axisofevil wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 5:36 pm
I expect that must be a bug(?).
Nope - Mint Y in it's dark and light variants is the default so that's what the Welcome Screen sets. Mint-X only has a light variant.

What colour do you want?

There are plenty of themes available to install via the Download section of the Themes settings module.

A Dark Grey (Cinnamox Rhino theme)
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A Blue? (Cinnamox Kashmir-Blue theme)
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Re: How can I change Window backgrounds in LMDE?

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1. Are these other themes officially supported by Cinnamon - I don't want to use something that will foul up the next release of Cinnamon?

2. I like Mint-X as an icon theme, partly because Mint-Y uses the icon associated with digiKam [a huge application] for the screenshot program [a tiny program]. Could I use this in a new theme?

3. In the theme screen is it the "Controls" entry that controls [sic] the overall look?

Actually, By playing around with the supplied themes, I think I've answered the above questions.
Some of the Cinnamox themes look very good - but I'm looking for something a bit more grey & boring...

It seems that Window backgrounds aren't themed as such - you either use a black theme or a white one [or use Cinnamox].
This appears weird since the background forms the bulk of the window.
BTW /usr/share/themes/Mint-Y/gtk-3.0/gtk.css is 4000+ lines long!

Also, nemo in a split pane mode in a dark theme doesn't work well.
I'm tempted to give up - what I've got is usable.
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Re: How can I change Window backgrounds in LMDE?

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axisofevil wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:49 am
1. Are these other themes officially supported by Cinnamon - I don't want to use something that will foul up the next release of Cinnamon?

2. I like Mint-X as an icon theme, partly because Mint-Y uses the icon associated with digiKam [a huge application] for the screenshot program [a tiny program]. Could I use this in a new theme?

3. In the theme screen is it the "Controls" entry that controls [sic] the overall look?
They are all third party themes but anything on Cinnamon Spices is vetted by a member of the Mint team. However you can't guarantee that third-party authors will consistently maintain them for ongoing compatibility with new releases. However major breakages with new releases are rare.

You can mix and match themes so you can you Mint X with as an icon theme with other choices.

It is the controls theme.

If you did want to edit the Mint-Y theme to make the backgrounds a little less white you wouldn't go far wrong by searching for and editing the string background-color: #ffffff; wherever it occurs in the gtk.css file. It occurs 30 times.

I'd recommend copying the entire Mint-Y folder from /usr/share/themes to ~/.themes and experimenting with the copy. Hint - most text editors offer a recursive search and replace function for quickly testing different color hexes.

If Mint-X is your preferred starting point editing the single line - @define-color theme_base_color #ECECEC; in gtk-main.css should be enough.
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Re: How can I change Window backgrounds in LMDE?

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You should switch to MATE. One of the last memories of GNOME 2 ...

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Re: How can I change Window backgrounds in LMDE?

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absque fenestris wrote:
Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:46 am
You should switch to MATE. One of the last memories of GNOME 2 ...
I'm curious, and perhaps the OP will be also. How does one install Mate in LMDE? Once done, how does one get to that screen?
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Re: How can I change Window backgrounds in LMDE?

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Pretty much like on Debian:
(sudo) apt install mate-desktop-environment (=meta package)
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Re: How can I change Window backgrounds in LMDE?

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I shall investigate this detailed suggestion:-
smurphos wrote:
Tue Aug 11, 2020 1:20 am
They are all third party themes but anything on Cinnamon Spices is vetted by a member of the Mint team. However you can't guarantee that third-party authors will consistently maintain them for ongoing compatibility with new releases. However major breakages with new releases are rare.

You can mix and match themes so you can you Mint X with as an icon theme with other choices.

It is the controls theme.

If you did want to edit the Mint-Y theme to make the backgrounds a little less white you wouldn't go far wrong by searching for and editing the string background-color: #ffffff; wherever it occurs in the gtk.css file. It occurs 30 times.

I'd recommend copying the entire Mint-Y folder from /usr/share/themes to ~/.themes and experimenting with the copy. Hint - most text editors offer a recursive search and replace function for quickly testing different color hexes.

If Mint-X is your preferred starting point editing the single line - @define-color theme_base_color #ECECEC; in gtk-main.css should be enough.
It sounds [relatively] easy - anyway I'll give it a go.

I can't understand these people who want me to install Mate so that I'd have a mixed LMDE/MATE install.
I would bet there won't be a valid upgrade path from such a creature to LMDE5!
I did recently try Mate's file manager caja - really clunky when compared with nemo - swiftly uninstalled!
No Mate for me!
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Re: How can I change Window backgrounds in LMDE?

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axisofevil wrote:
Tue Aug 11, 2020 2:28 pm
I can't understand these people who want me to install Mate ...
I don't understand why people invest so much time in themes, but they do. :lol:

It was a suggestion. That's all.

absque, I'd still be interested to know how you got to that screen. Thanks.
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Re: How can I change Window backgrounds in LMDE?

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For heaven's sake I don't want to annoy anyone ...
absque, I'd still be interested to know how you got to that screen. Thanks.
Please visit this thread > viewtopic.php?f=206&t=325361&start=20
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Re: How can I change Window backgrounds in LMDE?

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Thanks, but I figured it out. In case anyone is curious, in Caja, Edit > Backgrounds & Emblems > drag desired color swatch to right pane. [/hijack]
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Re: How can I change Window backgrounds in LMDE?

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I seem to have stirred up a hornets nest.
Didn't mean to start a flame war. :cry:

Anyway, I tried @smurphos instructions - but it didn't work for me.
I'll settle for my current Cinnamon themes - its not worth the effort to modify for a minor background hue. :D

So it seems that caja [Mate] is more flexible than Cinnamon/nemo in this case...
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