LMDE vs Debian Buster?

[cretsiah]

I dont get it .....

i thought LMDE was supposed to be a relatively straight Debian Buster with Minty overlay?

if so why does Debian Buster non-free live disc work better for me?

for instance i dont have the same wifi trouble (Media Tek the one that seems to require you to be stuck on kernel 5.4.26 in mint) , however i did have to install lsusb, lshw lspci to get my G933 Logitech headset working with sound.

i could jump from kernel 4.19 to 5.9.0.0bpo_amd64 in debian buster and wifi still works..

what im not sure on what to do is how to add complete media codecs set to debian buster??

by complete media codecs i mean free and non-free codecs.....

i would ask questions at Debian forums but cant seem to get past their registration form

[kc1di]

Hello can not speak to the differences between LMDE and Debian 10 but this page will show you how to install multi media codecs for Debian.
https://linuxhint.com/install_multimedi ... debian_10/

[Lucap]

Hello can not speak to the differences between LMDE and Debian 10 but this page will show you how to install multi media codecs for Debian.
https://linuxhint.com/install_multimedi ... debian_10/

Debian: the unofficial Multimedia repository is considered insecure

https://blog.desdelinux.net/en/debian-e ... -inseguro/

Does Mint and Ubuntu use this?

[t42]

Debian: the unofficial Multimedia repository is considered insecure

That's true and also it's quite tedious to remove their packages. There were issues when their packages broke VLC, MPlayer etc.

[Lucap]

@t42

That's true and it's quite tedious to remove their packages. There were issues when their packages broke VLC, MPlayer etc.

Insecure not unstable?

@kc1di

According to the Debian maintainers, the domain debian-multimedia.org is no longer being used by the former managers and is now in the name of someone unknown. This means that the repository is no longer secure and users should remove it from their sources.list file as soon as possible

The link you gave to cretsiah installs deb-multimedia.org which seems to be a website rename from debian-multimedia.org?

[t42]

Insecure not unstable?

Both. I missed also.

The link you gave to cretsiah installs debian-multimedia.org

Are you talking to me? If so, no link from me was given here.

[Lucap]

Are you talking to me? If so, no link from me was given here.

Not you , i've put names in so it makes more sense.

[JoeFootball]

The link you gave to cretsiah installs deb-multimedia.org which seems to be a website rename from debian-multimedia.org?

That's an unofficial third-party repo for Windows media.

[sdibaja]

Debian: the unofficial Multimedia repository is considered insecure

https://blog.desdelinux.net/en/debian-e ... -inseguro/

That web link is clearly Fake News.
no sources are provided, the author is way out of touch or does not understand.

[Lucap]

That web link is clearly Fake News.
no sources are provided, the author is way out of touch or does not understand.

https://bits.debian.org/2013/06/remove- ... media.html

The debian source is at the bottom of the page.

[JoeFootball]

https://bits.debian.org/2013/06/remove- ... media.html

Which states that it's an unofficial third-party repo.

[Lucap]

https://bits.debian.org/2013/06/remove- ... media.html

Which states that it's an unofficial third-party repo.

Which states it's considered insecure and should be removed , which is not stated in the link @kc1di posted...

[sdibaja]

That web link is clearly Fake News.
no sources are provided, the author is way out of touch or does not understand.

https://bits.debian.org/2013/06/remove- ... media.html

The debian source is at the bottom of the page.

yep, dated Fri 14 June 2013

[JoeFootball]

Which states it's considered insecure and should be removed ...

Removed from what? LMDE doesn't use it. I wouldn't imagine Debian does either.

... which is not stated in the link @kc1di posted

Yes, you're correct, if someone really wants Windows media codecs. We should notify Shahriar Shovon at once.

[Lucap]

Removed from what? LMDE doesn't use it. I wouldn't imagine Debian does either.

I don't understand what you find so confusing about post 1 & 2 and what cretsiah might install without knowing , are you saying the debian information should be kept quiet?

[JoeFootball]

I don't understand what you find so confusing about post 1 & 2 and what cretsiah might install without knowing , are you saying the debian information should be kept quiet?

I don't find anything confusing, nor did I say that any information should be kept quiet.

To be clear, I would agree that it would be a bad idea if the OP were to install that unofficial third-party repo for Windows media codecs which Debian does not recommend.

That said, it's not in use by LMDE, and there are official Debian repos for multimedia codecs should someone require them.

[sdibaja]

... which is not stated in the link @kc1di posted

Yes, you're correct, if someone really wants Windows media codecs. We should notify Shahriar Shovon at once.

that article is not dated, the link he provides is from 2013... Eight Years Ago. Perhaps it was correct when he wrote it many moons ago.
If you like you can click the link on his page and report the error.

Which states it's considered insecure and should be removed ...

Removed from what? LMDE doesn't use it. I wouldn't imagine Debian does either.

the page was renamed to deb-multimedia.org ages ago, it's almost forgotten the spoofed page ever existed

[t42]

what im not sure on what to do is how to add complete media codecs set to debian buster??

Trying to return to the original question
What codecs do you miss specifically? Usually Debian nonfree iso with firmware installs some codecs.
If you'd install VLC and ffmpeg, many popular codecs will be installed automatically.
But still you can pull them from repository, for eg pick what you need

Code: Select all

sudo apt-get install libx264-dev
sudo apt-get install libx265-dev libnuma-dev
sudo apt-get install libvpx-dev
sudo apt-get install libfdk-aac-dev
sudo apt-get install libmp3lame-dev
sudo apt-get install libopus-dev

[Lucap]

that article is not dated, the link he provides is from 2013... Eight Years Ago. Perhaps it was correct when he wrote it many moons ago.
If you like you can click the link on his page and report the error.

the page was renamed to deb-multimedia.org ages ago, it's almost forgotten the spoofed page ever existed

So going by your logic and reasoning Windows XP is now safe because years have passed?

Have you forgotten that Linux Mint is supposed to be Newbie Friendly and how exactly would new users supposed to know which part of the information posted in the link kc1di posted should be followed and what parts should be treated with caution because a Windows to Linux newbie would think they need to search for and install 3rd party windows codecs when they don't.

Debian specifically had issues with the DOM website so why you're posting in contrary to the official advisory i have no idea...

[sdibaja]

@Lucap: I did poor job of making super clear citations.


I believe this is pretty clear:

https://bits.debian.org/2013/06/remove- ... media.html

I did not intend for you or anyone else to think otherwise.

*However using the Debian "unofficial repositories" does NOT create a security risk.
https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unof ... -firmware/

"Unofficial non-free images including firmware packages:
Here are some extra images, equivalent to the normal images we produce regularly except in that they also include non-free firmware to make things easier on some systems requiring proprietary but redistributable firmware.
See http://wiki.debian.org/Firmware for more details."

follow links, read all of it