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Re: LMDE5

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your speeches are idles. just do a random google search. here is a random link.

https://www-zdnet-com.cdn.ampproject.or ... e-cloud%2F
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Re: LMDE5

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ne0h wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 3:37 am just do a random google search.
Nope. The statement was yours, the job to back it up is yours too. That's how these things work.
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Re: LMDE5

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There's a bit of pattern emerging here...
LMDE3 = Cindy
LMDE4 = Debbie
LMDE5 = Elsie

I'm betting on LMDE6 failing to meet that pattern.
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Re: LMDE5

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axisofevil wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:43 pm There's a bit of pattern emerging here...
LMDE3 = Cindy
LMDE4 = Debbie
LMDE5 = Elsie

I'm betting on LMDE6 failing to meet that pattern.
LMDE6 = Franchesca!! :P ( I honestly have no idea what it will be named but hey..why not. xD
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Good - Elsie ... when she's a little bigger, we can call her Elsa, like Elsa the Lioness.
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Re: LMDE5

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they said they will now start working on the artwork. so probably in a while we would also have some news in LMDE4. Wow, I can't wait for LMDE5 to arrive !!!! Christmas???
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Re: LMDE5

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Christmas is Linux Mint 20.3 stable. That means beta testing in December which usually takes about 2 weeks and a lot of work between now and then to get everything done. I very much doubt a LMDE 5 release will be done before or at the same time. But perhaps. I think it more likely it will be sometime early next year.
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Wonder if the early stages for GTK4 will start or if Clem will just stay with GTK3 for the long term as apparently the Gnome Devs are making life so difficult for customization that it's more akin to hacking?

Developer Joshua Strobl no longer has confidence in the Budgie desktop using GTK and wants to move to something else.
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Re: LMDE5

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That's not in scope for LMDE 5, or something you need to think about. LMDE 5 is based on Debian 11 which has GNOME 3.38. That version is so old that it doesn't have GTK4.

LMDE 5 is about moving to the new Debian 11 package base and probably at same time getting the Linux Mint software developed for Linux Mint 20.3 also on LMDE.

The whole GTK4 discussion doesn't come into view until GNOME 42 at the earliest I think. That's planned for release about 6 months from now so it won't affect LMDE 5 and unlikely that it will affect Linux Mint 21. And GTK4 isn't the "issue", it's only programs that use GTK4 and libadwaita for which setting the theme will need to be done in a different way than before—so yes the theme can still be changed even for these. Anyway I just tried Fedora 35 beta which has GNOME 41 and of the 7 programs in its repository that use GTK4 only 3 also use libadwaita (from `sudo dnf repoquery --whatdepends libadwaita`): Gnome Todo (task planner app), Hydrapaper (wallpaper switcher app) and Notejot (notes app). Undoubtedly for GNOME 42 more core apps will be migrated to GTK4 (which is not a trivial task) but that doesn't mean they will also use lidadwaita. And again, that doesn't affect LMDE 5 development because it has a much older GNOME version.
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Re: LMDE5

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LMDE 5 Elsie

Work is set to start on the next version of LMDE which was given the codename “Elsie”. It will be based on Debian 11, ship with a Cinnamon desktop environment and support both amd64 and i386 architectures.
From: https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=4149
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Re: LMDE5

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vimes666 wrote: Sat Oct 02, 2021 6:38 am
LMDE 5 Elsie

Work is set to start on the next version of LMDE which was given the codename “Elsie”. It will be based on Debian 11, ship with a Cinnamon desktop environment and support both amd64 and i386 architectures.
From: https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=4149
?? it's the same link i posted before!
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Re: LMDE5

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xenopeek wrote: Sat Oct 02, 2021 6:25 am That's not in scope for LMDE 5, or something you need to think about. LMDE 5 is based on Debian 11 which has GNOME 3.38. That version is so old that it doesn't have GTK4.
That's great to hear , thanks for that.
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Re: LMDE5

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will the update policy in LMDE still remain this? with update packs? while critical security updates will be released in a timely manner?
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Re: LMDE5

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ne0h wrote: Sat Oct 02, 2021 6:55 am will the update policy in LMDE still remain this? with update packs? while critical security updates will be released in a timely manner?
No. Update packs were used on LMDE 1 but not on newer LMDE releases. It won't be coming back for LMDE 5. On LMDE 5 — like on LMDE 2, 3 and 4 — you'll get updates from Debian stable repositories directly. Software developed by Linux Mint gets updates on LMDE when they have a stable release.
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Re: LMDE5

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motoryzen wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:11 pm
axisofevil wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:43 pm There's a bit of pattern emerging here...
LMDE3 = Cindy
LMDE4 = Debbie
LMDE5 = Elsie

I'm betting on LMDE6 failing to meet that pattern.
LMDE6 = Franchesca!! :P ( I honestly have no idea what it will be named but hey..why not. xD
How about Fannie--that's a well rounded code name :P
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Re: LMDE5

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ne0h wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 3:27 pm https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=4149
LMDE5 Elsie!!!!
Awesome! I just installed LMDE4 after trying Debian 11 for two months. Debian is pretty good, but I just keep wanting the Mint polish. I'll make a donation to Mint after my paycheck gets in because I am hype as fhtagn!

Also, am I the only one that immediately thinks of The World Only God Knows when reading Elsie?

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all41 wrote: Sat Oct 02, 2021 8:41 am
motoryzen wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:11 pm
axisofevil wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:43 pm There's a bit of pattern emerging here...
LMDE3 = Cindy
LMDE4 = Debbie
LMDE5 = Elsie

I'm betting on LMDE6 failing to meet that pattern.
LMDE6 = Franchesca!! :P ( I honestly have no idea what it will be named but hey..why not. xD
How about Fannie--that's a well rounded code name :P
I vote Vicky
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Re: LMDE5

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WriteF wrote: Sat Oct 02, 2021 11:06 am Also, am I the only one that immediately thinks of The World Only God Knows when reading Elsie?
Almost certainly. :lol:
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Re: LMDE5

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WriteF wrote: Sat Oct 02, 2021 11:06 am
ne0h wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 3:27 pm https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=4149
LMDE5 Elsie!!!!
Awesome! I just installed LMDE4 after trying Debian 11 for two months. Debian is pretty good, but I just keep wanting the Mint polish. I'll make a donation to Mint after my paycheck gets in because I am hype as fhtagn!

Also, am I the only one that immediately thinks of The World Only God Knows when reading Elsie?

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all41 wrote: Sat Oct 02, 2021 8:41 am
motoryzen wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:11 pm

LMDE6 = Franchesca!! :P ( I honestly have no idea what it will be named but hey..why not. xD
How about Fannie--that's a well rounded code name :P
I vote Vicky
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Re: LMDE5

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Waiting for Elsie...
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