Cinnamon 5.4

[Shiva]

Hello everyone,

First post after being a long time in read-only mode on the forum.

Today, I had notifications for Cinnamon upgrade to 5.4 on my LMDE5.

Before upgrading, a simple question to all those who already did, especially those who use scripts with commands like dconf, gio, gsettings... addressing directly to the core of the DE :
The normal expectation of an upgrade would be that everything that worked before still works plus certain features, optimizations, a.s.o.
Is it the case or did you encounter some "things" deprecated or obsolete or simply not working anymore ?

Many thanks in advance for anyone taking some of his time to answer.

[MiZoG]

Read the section about Cinnamon 5.4 in the changelog for the main edition to know exactly what to expect.

[antikythera]

Boas bro?

All good here, nothing noticeably broke across my two machines. Everything appears to be how it was before the updates but I did take full images with foxclone two days ago anyway so had a fallback plan.

[Shiva]

Read the section about Cinnamon 5.4 in the changelog for the main edition to know exactly what to expect.

I knew it, did read it for some time, but the advice was nonetheless valuable because a second reading after upgrade highlighted some issues I had with my theme using metacity (GraphiteZero). I'm aware I'll have to change because metacity is not supported with the new muffin/mutter version, but as I'm packing and unpacking in real life (= moving to another place to live), I have no time to search.

All good here, nothing noticeably broke across my two machines. Everything appears to be how it was before the updates but I did take full images with foxclone two days ago anyway so had a fallback plan.

We all have our tricks to safeguard our systems. I'm using a dual-boot with Elsie and ... Elsie : one version allows every upgrade (kinda testing version of Elsie) and the other does not (made manually if the testing version is clean after some usage - kinda stable version of Elsie). On this "stable" version, I de-activated for the time being the backport repository (Cinnamon, Nemo...) to keep 5.2.7 Cin.
But that's no critic to the dev team, since I could already notice better color rendering with Cinnamon 5.4. I had no real issues during upgrade, just the feeling I was moving to a new house, but as I'm already doing this irl, I'll wait before doing it on my system.

Seems time will be my best ally.
Thanks to both of you.

[vimes666]

After the 5.4 update my cinnamon desktop is gone. There is only a 'computer' icon, no background no panels. Can do nothing but open a real terminal to find out I do not have a dektop at all:

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System:    Kernel: 5.10.0-16-686 i686 bits: 32 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 Console: tty 2 Distro: LMDE 5 Elsie 
           base: Debian 11.2 bullseye 
Machine:   Type: Unknown System: Sellers product: N/A v: N/A serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: Intel model: D865GVHZ v: AAC72419-108 serial: <filter> BIOS: Intel v: BF86510A.86A.0061.P17.0404211558 
           date: 04/21/2004 
CPU:       Info: Single Core model: Intel Pentium 4 bits: 32 type: MT arch: Netburst Prescott rev: 4 L2 cache: 1024 KiB 
           flags: pae sse sse2 sse3 bogomips: 11970 
           Speed: 2993 MHz min/max: N/A Core speeds (MHz): 1: 2993 2: 2993 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel 82865G Integrated Graphics driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 
           Device-2: Brooktree Bt878 Video Capture driver: bttv v: 0.9.19 bus ID: 01:01.0 
           Display: server: X.org 1.20.11 driver: loaded: intel unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa tty: 175x65 
           Message: Advanced graphics data unavailable in console. Try -G --display 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel 82801EB/ER AC97 Audio driver: snd_intel8x0 v: kernel bus ID: 00:1f.5 
           Device-2: Brooktree Bt878 Video Capture driver: bttv v: 0.9.19 bus ID: 01:01.0 
           Device-3: Brooktree Bt878 Audio Capture driver: N/A bus ID: 01:01.1 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.10.0-16-686 
Network:   Device-1: Ralink RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI vendor: Linksys WMP54G v4.1 driver: rt61pci v: 2.3.0 port: c400 
           bus ID: 01:00.0 
           IF: wlp1s0 state: down mac: <filter> 
           Device-2: Intel 82562EZ 10/100 Ethernet driver: e100 v: kernel port: bc00 bus ID: 01:08.0 
           IF: enp1s8 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter> 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 170.38 GiB used: 14.18 GiB (8.3%) 
           ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Kingston model: SA400S37120G size: 111.79 GiB 
           ID-2: /dev/sdb type: USB model: USB DISK 2.0 size: 58.59 GiB 
Partition: ID-1: / size: 107.46 GiB used: 14.18 GiB (13.2%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2 
Swap:      ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 2.05 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) dev: /dev/sda1 
Sensors:   Message: No sensors data was found. Is sensors configured? 
Repos:     Packages: 2060 
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/official-package-repositories.list 
           1: deb http://mirror.funkfreundelandshut.de/linuxmint/packages elsie main upstream import backport
           2: deb https://deb.debian.org/debian/ bullseye main contrib non-free
           3: deb https://deb.debian.org/debian/ bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
           4: deb http://security.debian.org/ bullseye-security main contrib non-free
           5: deb https://deb.debian.org/debian/ bullseye-backports main contrib non-free
Info:      Processes: 168 Uptime: 4m Memory: 1.95 GiB used: 607.9 MiB (30.4%) Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 
           Shell: Bash v: 5.1.4 inxi: 3.3.01 

Note that it is a 32 bit system..

[Shiva]

After the 5.4 update my cinnamon desktop is gone. There is only a 'computer' icon, no background no panels. Can do nothing but open a real terminal to find out I do not have a dektop at all:

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System:    Kernel: 5.10.0-16-686 i686 bits: 32 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 Console: tty 2 Distro: LMDE 5 Elsie 
           base: Debian 11.2 bullseye 
Machine:   Type: Unknown System: Sellers product: N/A v: N/A serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: Intel model: D865GVHZ v: AAC72419-108 serial: <filter> BIOS: Intel v: BF86510A.86A.0061.P17.0404211558 
           date: 04/21/2004 
CPU:       Info: Single Core model: Intel Pentium 4 bits: 32 type: MT arch: Netburst Prescott rev: 4 L2 cache: 1024 KiB 
           flags: pae sse sse2 sse3 bogomips: 11970 
           Speed: 2993 MHz min/max: N/A Core speeds (MHz): 1: 2993 2: 2993 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel 82865G Integrated Graphics driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 
           Device-2: Brooktree Bt878 Video Capture driver: bttv v: 0.9.19 bus ID: 01:01.0 
           Display: server: X.org 1.20.11 driver: loaded: intel unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa tty: 175x65 
           Message: Advanced graphics data unavailable in console. Try -G --display 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel 82801EB/ER AC97 Audio driver: snd_intel8x0 v: kernel bus ID: 00:1f.5 
           Device-2: Brooktree Bt878 Video Capture driver: bttv v: 0.9.19 bus ID: 01:01.0 
           Device-3: Brooktree Bt878 Audio Capture driver: N/A bus ID: 01:01.1 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.10.0-16-686 
Network:   Device-1: Ralink RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI vendor: Linksys WMP54G v4.1 driver: rt61pci v: 2.3.0 port: c400 
           bus ID: 01:00.0 
           IF: wlp1s0 state: down mac: <filter> 
           Device-2: Intel 82562EZ 10/100 Ethernet driver: e100 v: kernel port: bc00 bus ID: 01:08.0 
           IF: enp1s8 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter> 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 170.38 GiB used: 14.18 GiB (8.3%) 
           ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Kingston model: SA400S37120G size: 111.79 GiB 
           ID-2: /dev/sdb type: USB model: USB DISK 2.0 size: 58.59 GiB 
Partition: ID-1: / size: 107.46 GiB used: 14.18 GiB (13.2%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2 
Swap:      ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 2.05 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) dev: /dev/sda1 
Sensors:   Message: No sensors data was found. Is sensors configured? 
Repos:     Packages: 2060 
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/official-package-repositories.list 
           1: deb http://mirror.funkfreundelandshut.de/linuxmint/packages elsie main upstream import backport
           2: deb https://deb.debian.org/debian/ bullseye main contrib non-free
           3: deb https://deb.debian.org/debian/ bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
           4: deb http://security.debian.org/ bullseye-security main contrib non-free
           5: deb https://deb.debian.org/debian/ bullseye-backports main contrib non-free
Info:      Processes: 168 Uptime: 4m Memory: 1.95 GiB used: 607.9 MiB (30.4%) Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 
           Shell: Bash v: 5.1.4 inxi: 3.3.01 

Note that it is a 32 bit system..

If you have a working 5.2.7. Cinnamon timeshift snapshot you may do what I did to deactivate the Cinnamon upgrade :
- Open /etc/apt/sources.list.d/official-package-repositories.list as admin
- Move the word backport after the hashtag #id:linuxmint_main (or delete it)
- Refresh your apt sources (or restart)

Sure Cinnamon 5.4 is more looking up to Ryzen, i9, ThreadRipper than down to Pentium 4 or AMD Athlon...

[vimes666]

If you have a working 5.2.7. Cinnamon timeshift snapshot you may do what I did to deactivate the Cinnamon upgrade

Yes, I had a snapshot so it is not a problem for the moment. I just wanted to mention it. At the moment I do not have much time to dig into it. I would like to hear if others with a 32 bit system encountered the same problem as I did.

[Adolphus]

Solid performance here!
Fixed is now my problem with twin NVidia video cards and a monitor in each running Nvidia drivers. Kudos!.
Display panel makes XRandr obsolete here. Thanks!
Keep up the good work!

[ZaZooBred]

Is it the case or did you encounter some "things" deprecated or obsolete or simply not working anymore ?

Minor thing, but it somewhat annoys me. I'm no longer able to send windows to other workspaces using keyboard shortcuts of Alt+Space W <workspace num>

[David Chiang]

For me, the switch came with a few surprises, but in the end they turned out to be a clear improvement over the previous version. However, Cinnamon still suffers from its inflexible and over-automated settings. It should always be possible for the user to make corrections at his own discretion, but the programmers don't seem to think of this possibility!

[Shadowstreik]

Two things I've come across that I do not like in this new desktop:

1) I'm big on doing the simple action of Ctrl+Spacebar then C to close out a window. It's so simple.

Well, can't do that, anymore.

2) The boot logo can no longer be customized (Or, at least, not easily). The logo.png file has been replaced with a series of logo animation files, eliminating customizing the boot logo (Or, at least, making it very difficult).

Fortunately, I had customized it before upgrading Cinnamon. The customization prior to the upgrade was preserved.

[Mrw]

Window border themes have gone viewtopic.php?f=208&t=382066&p=2267604#p2267604