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- Peter Linu
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Advice quality
Hiyall Admin,
I have of late noticed that many answers that have appeared are either badly-explained, off topic or just plain wrong.
While this can be shrugged off as what happens in public forums, I have noticed on other forums that this has the effect of driving serious people away and leaving a 'loony bin'. This behaviour leads to the forum closing down.
Yours is too valuable a resource to allow this to happen.
May I suggest that the signature contains a sign (* or colour change or ?) to signify an expert. Having 'Moderator' at the bottom is nice but often not noticed until other action has been done.
I have of late noticed that many answers that have appeared are either badly-explained, off topic or just plain wrong.
While this can be shrugged off as what happens in public forums, I have noticed on other forums that this has the effect of driving serious people away and leaving a 'loony bin'. This behaviour leads to the forum closing down.
Yours is too valuable a resource to allow this to happen.
May I suggest that the signature contains a sign (* or colour change or ?) to signify an expert. Having 'Moderator' at the bottom is nice but often not noticed until other action has been done.
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- ricardogroetaers
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Re: Advice quality
In my humble opinion, a Forum is a community where users exchange information with each other.
It is not technical support.
You have to consider that most of the "Sections" are in English, but they bring together users from different countries and therefore different languages.
The translation is done by software, not by a human translator.
It is perfectly normal for some text to be confusing.
It is not technical support.
You have to consider that most of the "Sections" are in English, but they bring together users from different countries and therefore different languages.
The translation is done by software, not by a human translator.
It is perfectly normal for some text to be confusing.
- Peter Linu
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Re: Advice quality
If it's not about technical information where is the waitress to take my coffee order?
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Re: Advice quality
the LinuxMint.Forum members are usually quite quick,
in pointing out, anything that they would think, is amiss on their forum.
the Forum.Team is usually quite quick in responding to those issues . .
in pointing out, anything that they would think, is amiss on their forum.
the Forum.Team is usually quite quick in responding to those issues . .
Please edit your original post title to include [SOLVED] - when your problem is solved!
and DO LOOK at those Unanswered Topics - - you may be able to answer some!.
Re: Advice quality
"May I suggest that the signature contains a sign (* or colour change or ?) to signify an expert. Having 'Moderator' at the bottom is nice but often not noticed until other action has been done"
Who is an expert? For every person that claims to be an expert there is always someone who knows more. If advise is given that isn't correct there is someone who will challenge that advise. So to claim someone as an expert may not be the best choice for any given advice on anything.
I am an "expert" at not knowing everything but I really would prefer not having that title.
Who is an expert? For every person that claims to be an expert there is always someone who knows more. If advise is given that isn't correct there is someone who will challenge that advise. So to claim someone as an expert may not be the best choice for any given advice on anything.
I am an "expert" at not knowing everything but I really would prefer not having that title.
"Tune for maximum Smoke and then read the Instructions".
Re: Advice quality
...or like this onePeter Linu wrote: ⤴Fri Oct 08, 2021 10:38 pm May I suggest that the signature contains a sign (* or colour change or ?) to signify an expert
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- Peter Linu
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Re: Advice quality
Pierre,
Speed is not the issue.
Speed is not the issue.
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- Peter Linu
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Re: Advice quality
Haveamint,
If you have been on the forum for some time and your 'Level' is over 10 and the admin team can see that your advice has helped create many [SOLVED]s, then I guess your are an expert. I appreciate that few can be expert at everything however we can generally work out who is good at what.
If you have been on the forum for some time and your 'Level' is over 10 and the admin team can see that your advice has helped create many [SOLVED]s, then I guess your are an expert. I appreciate that few can be expert at everything however we can generally work out who is good at what.
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Re: Advice quality
This forum is happy to have a lot of knowledgeable people. But it's a silly idea to motivate them with some badge.
Just go to the Microsoft MSDN forums and see how useless Microsoft certified experts are.
Just go to the Microsoft MSDN forums and see how useless Microsoft certified experts are.
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- Lady Fitzgerald
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Re: Advice quality
Please, not a color change! Many people are color blind.
Jeannie
To ensure the safety of your data, you have to be proactive, not reactive, so, back it up!
To ensure the safety of your data, you have to be proactive, not reactive, so, back it up!
- Peter Linu
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Re: Advice quality
t42,
You take me too literally. A certain level of competence does not need a reward but it does need pointing out so people know who to ask. Do you ask the baker for a haircut or medical advice from Facebook?
HaveaMint,
Please don't confuse democracy with knowledge or this forum will drown in a sea of mediocrity and no-one will come here for advice.
You take me too literally. A certain level of competence does not need a reward but it does need pointing out so people know who to ask. Do you ask the baker for a haircut or medical advice from Facebook?
HaveaMint,
Please don't confuse democracy with knowledge or this forum will drown in a sea of mediocrity and no-one will come here for advice.
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- Peter Linu
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Re: Advice quality
How about another chart showing how many [SOLVED]s one gets?
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Re: Advice quality
... then you may have asked a lot of questions, or simply like to chat.Peter Linu wrote: ⤴Sat Oct 09, 2021 3:25 am If you have been on the forum for some time and your 'Level' is over 10
I don't think even the admins have that information. How would software decide who, of all the people that contributed to a topic,Peter Linu wrote: ⤴Sat Oct 09, 2021 6:38 am How about another chart showing how many [SOLVED]s one gets?
came up with the winning answer?
If your issue is solved, kindly indicate that by editing the first post in the topic, and adding [SOLVED] to the title. Thanks!
Re: Advice quality
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To discriminate people on any brain related achievement ensue the opening of a can of worms.
[solved] criteria is useless:
- so many 1-post users disappear immediately after getting the answer.
- its quantity indicates how actively you are begging for it vs not care
- correct answer often is born directly from wrong assumptions, it's a team work
To discriminate people on any brain related achievement ensue the opening of a can of worms.
[solved] criteria is useless:
- so many 1-post users disappear immediately after getting the answer.
- its quantity indicates how actively you are begging for it vs not care
- correct answer often is born directly from wrong assumptions, it's a team work
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Re: Advice quality
After three years on the forum it should be easy to tell who gives good, sound advice. If any advice seems "off," ask more questions.
- JoeFootball
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Re: Advice quality
Edit: Wile E. Coyote "Genius" business card duly removed, as its intention can clearly be misinterpreted.
Last edited by JoeFootball on Sat Oct 09, 2021 7:24 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Advice quality
A novice user who has solved the problem in question may offer better advice than an experienced user who doesn't use the hardware/software in question.
btw I am neither expert or specialist but knowing that I would not offer advice that could cause damage.
The clock on my Windows 10 always starts in the wrong time zone but the clock displays fine in Mint. Anyone have a working solution for that ? The "experts" say it might be a 'virus'. Don't answer that question, I've given up and I'm past caring,
btw I am neither expert or specialist but knowing that I would not offer advice that could cause damage.
The clock on my Windows 10 always starts in the wrong time zone but the clock displays fine in Mint. Anyone have a working solution for that ? The "experts" say it might be a 'virus'. Don't answer that question, I've given up and I'm past caring,
Re: Advice quality
At least the prices haven't gone up.Peter Linu wrote: ⤴Fri Oct 08, 2021 10:38 pmI have of late noticed that many answers that have appeared are either badly-explained, off topic or just plain wrong.
Please edit your original post title to include [SOLVED] if/when it is solved!
Your data and OS are backed up....right?
Your data and OS are backed up....right?
- Peter Linu
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Re: Advice quality
Flemur,
That's another topic going something like this; allow moderators(?) to remote into a newbie's computer to help fix the problem FOR A MODEST FEE. Quicker with included lesson than the back-and-forth of people only guessing and a much better use of human resources.
iliketrains,
Why do you choose a impossible scenario. Why would an experienced user answer at all unless they had a fix?
JoeFootball,
Very NOT funny to make fun of intelligence/experience.
Schultz,
You're correct. I have it on good authority that many experienced senior members have already left the forum and more are on the brink because of the 'dumming-down' now abroad. If this continues our experts will be noobs-with-attitude.
t42,
"To discriminate people on any brain related achievement ensue the opening of a can of worms."
This is exactly what the forum needs: brain-related experienced advisers.
Moem,
Accounting: I suggest that the problem solvee be responsible for allocating [SOLVED]s. It's easy in a direct and clear solution. In a complicated, many-member discussion the onus will be on the solvee to allocate to the solver who they believe effected the correct solution.
t42,
HaveaMint,
That's another topic going something like this; allow moderators(?) to remote into a newbie's computer to help fix the problem FOR A MODEST FEE. Quicker with included lesson than the back-and-forth of people only guessing and a much better use of human resources.
iliketrains,
Why do you choose a impossible scenario. Why would an experienced user answer at all unless they had a fix?
JoeFootball,
Very NOT funny to make fun of intelligence/experience.
Schultz,
You're correct. I have it on good authority that many experienced senior members have already left the forum and more are on the brink because of the 'dumming-down' now abroad. If this continues our experts will be noobs-with-attitude.
t42,
"To discriminate people on any brain related achievement ensue the opening of a can of worms."
This is exactly what the forum needs: brain-related experienced advisers.
Then our job has been done successfully. They will be back for their next question."so many 1-post users disappear immediately after getting the answer."
On the contrary, if the advice is effective, it will promote ever-more members to join.its quantity indicates how actively you are begging for it vs not care
However effective solutions are found more quickly by knowledgeable, experienced people than by inexperienced people's shot in the dark.correct answer often is born directly from wrong assumptions, it's a team work
Moem,
If you have been on the forum for some time and your 'Level' is over 10
By the time a member is at 10, it is unlikely even noobs won't notice.. then you may have asked a lot of questions, or simply like to chat.
Accounting: I suggest that the problem solvee be responsible for allocating [SOLVED]s. It's easy in a direct and clear solution. In a complicated, many-member discussion the onus will be on the solvee to allocate to the solver who they believe effected the correct solution.
t42,
This is not for the benefit of the solver, it is for the benefit of the solvee and indirectly benefits all of us by not wasting time and human resources.This forum is happy to have a lot of knowledgeable people. But it's a silly idea to motivate them with some badge.
Just go to the Microsoft MSDN forums and see how useless Microsoft certified experts are.
HaveaMint,
Of course we welcome people who know more. Don't get caught up with titles. Call them bathtubs forchrisakes! If two people know the answer to a topic, don't we all benefit? It's certainly a better situation than having NO experts and relying on politically-correct nerds with little knowledge, no experience and wanting to make a name for themselves in a forum with fake names and almost complete invisibility.Who is an expert? For every person that claims to be an expert there is always someone who knows more. If advise is given that isn't correct there is someone who will challenge that advise. So to claim someone as an expert may not be the best choice for any given advice on anything.
I am an "expert" at not knowing everything but I really would prefer not having that title.
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Re: Advice quality
Peter,
It wasn't too long ago that you could get your teeth pulled by a barber.
It wasn't too long ago that you could get your teeth pulled by a barber.