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bodo.gabor wrote:I can do whatever I want
I am happy.
I decided to use the proprietary,
I am happy.
I decided to start the installation, around 10 a clock PM.
I got lost.
I did not understand much
I chose the first option.
I said whatever
I decide what to do exactly,
I chose the third option.
I started the install it warned me,
I said continue, and it continued.
I was happy.
I was sad.
I was sad.
I was happy.
I am sad.
I am sad.
I couldn't solve it
I was lost for the first three times
Yeah, I can see from your diatribe all the problems were caused by Mint. :shock: :P :mrgreen: :lol:
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And I am still sad :(
[and this is just a rhetorical expression for those who did not get the point :D]

You can be happy not being a newbie, being curious and sharp. Keep up!

I will tell you a "secret": in the business world the most important thing is the profit. Bigger is better :) To realize profit, you need infrastructure, people, materials, products etc.
An operating system is part of the infrastructure. If it is free, it is good. If it costs a lot of money, not good. But in the cost structure there are capital and operational costs. Capital cost is the cost of the system (hardware, license etc) Operational cost is the cost required to operate the system (electricity, salary etc). Linux stands very good on the capital part, being free :) But if I need a genius who asks a lot of money to operate it, it is not good, because on long term the salary of the Guru guy is more than the initial cost of the more manageable concurrent system. The mathematics part is pretty easy :)

In the business world Linux is loosing territory, because you need smart people who are able to think to operate it. And they are expensive. At least, they are more expensive than people who are lazy to think :) Business people like very simple systems, easily manageable ones to have low operating cost.

Linux is not perfect. After all, this is why a lot of people are working to make it better. There is an effort to do the system to be simpler. But I doubt that it can ever be as simple as M$. M$ sells to the business people, and for them profit is more important than fancy solutions. Linux is done by smart people who do not need to simplify it. From the previous comments we all saw that everyone tries to prove me that I am actually wrong and Linux is simpler than M$. My late night experience told me otherwise.

With my post I was just pointing out some small issues with Linux I have met. Nothing really personal, just my Wednesday night experience and my opinion where could be done some improvements. This is why I posted in the "Suggestions & New Ideas" part :) If you think it is a stupid idea, you can add a comment or just ignore it. I just tried to "help" with my limited possibilities. Linux is not my hobby, nor my business.

I am a little bit surprised about some of the responses and I realize that the problem is not with Linux, but with it's users. But in contrary with the majority of you, I refer to the not newbie users :)

And again: I am sad :D

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bodo.gabor wrote:I am a little bit surprised about some of the responses
Uuummm.....all you've done so far is criticize, condemn and complain.

What were you expecting?

A knighthood?
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Well.....in that case, I dub thee Sir Bodo :mrgreen:

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bodo.gabor wrote:And I am still sad :(
[and this is just a rhetorical expression for those who did not get the point :D]

You can be happy not being a newbie, being curious and sharp. Keep up!
I am not going to let him off so easy Mick55!

Sad boy, you are not only sad, but you are also mighty confused and your posts are nothing short of a ludicrous troll. :lol:
I will tell you a "secret": in the business world the most important thing is the profit. Bigger is better :) To realize profit, you need infrastructure, people, materials, products etc.
As an owner of a successful small business (one that just happens to be run on Linux) I thank you for this insight! Bigger is NOT always better though. A case in point, I actually made more money working out of my garage on a part time basis with no overhead than I do now with 6 employees, 3 trucks, a secretary, and all the rest of the overhead. However, my growth potential is now much better and if not for the recession I would most likely be booming now. As it stands, in an economy where the housing market was hit super hard I managed to stay afloat while keeping all of my people. So what you say is a wee bit of an oversimplification in the "real" business world.
An operating system is part of the infrastructure. If it is free, it is good. If it costs a lot of money, not good. But in the cost structure there are capital and operational costs. Capital cost is the cost of the system (hardware, license etc) Operational cost is the cost required to operate the system (electricity, salary etc). Linux stands very good on the capital part, being free :) But if I need a genius who asks a lot of money to operate it, it is not good, because of the long term the salary of the Guru guy is more than the initial cost of the more manageable concurrent system. The mathematics part is pretty easy :)
I also agree with this in principle, but your premise is completely wrong! First of all, an operating system that does not require specialists to operate it does not exist. This holds true whether you run a SOHO with you as the only employee or a major corporation with thousands of employees. If you are by yourself then you will have to learn how to administer your own system and operate the software you need. Otherwise you hire specialists. This holds as true with a Microsoft product as it does with any other OS.

But the part you miss is that Linux is much more stable than Windows! Especially when you get into the corporate Linux systems. These things are indestructible! You would save money because you would not need your specialist as frequently as you would with a Microsoft system! Can I prove this? No. Can you argue this? Yes! :D That is not my point, I am not here to argue whether Windows is simpler or better than Linux. I suppose most in this forum would agree that Linux is the better system. Many others prefer Microsoft. Great! My point is you once again oversimplify things.
In the business world Linux is loosing territory, because you need smart people who are able to think to operate it. And they are expensive. At least, they are more expensive than people who are lazy to think :) Business people like very simple systems, easily manageable ones to have low operating cost.
Support? This statement is complete BS pulled right out of your butt! :shock:

Linux is losing territory? Not last I looked! Linux is no harder to operate than Windows, in fact most professionals would lean towards Linux being the easier system. In any case, Linux usage is much more widespread that you could ever imagine. :D
Linux is not perfect. After all, this is why a lot of people are working to make it better. There is an effort to do the system to be simpler. But I doubt that it can ever be as simple as M$. M$ sells to the business people, and for them profit is more important than fancy solutions. Linux is done by smart people who do not need to simplify it. From the previous comments we all saw that everyone tries to prove me that I am actually wrong and Linux is simpler than M$. My late night experience told me otherwise.
I disagree with the statement that MS is simpler but you are certainly entitled to your opinion. BTW, why the dollar sign when you write "MS"? Do you begrudge them the right to make money? It is a great operating system, it may surprise you that I am typing this from Windows 7. I respect Microsoft for the good things they have done, though I certainly recognize that they do much wrong too. They are just a corporation who is looking to make money. But I do not believe they are evil or that they are trying to rip the consumer off. It has been my experience that they adequately support and stand by their product. This is not about one OS being "better" than the other, it is you who feels the need to play that game. :D

But all that is neither here nor there because the thrust of your paragraph was that your experience told you otherwise. But as you freely admit from your first post, your experience was ALL YOUR FAULT! This is the part that makes you the fool! Not that there were things you did not understand, only that you blame everything and everyone else for YOUR ignorance! :cry:

Listen, I am not trying to make this personal. I do not know you. But let me try and show you what you are doing. It is like you have no idea how to fly an airplane. (you might, I do not know, let's just say you do not know how.) You get into an airplane and you take off and promptly crash. Then you go into the airplane forum and complain how the airplane sucked because you crashed and they should make the airplane simpler so people like you can fly them.

confused? Are you really this oblivious to life? Why not just learn to fly the plane? It really is easy, not like driving a car at all. You simply set the throttle at the best RPM for your cruise speed, trim everything out, then sit back and let the plane fly. A lot like using Linux really, set it and forget it.

Yet there will always be the idiots who are "too smart" to take the flying lesson. They refuse to listen to anyone else, they know it all. They jump into the planes and most of the time they end up crashing. Some will learn from their mistakes, most just run their mouths how planes need to be easier and how all pilots are elitists. :roll:
With my post I was just pointing out some small issues with Linux I have met. Nothing really personal, just my Wednesday night experience and my opinion where could be done some improvements. This is why I posted in the "Suggestions & New Ideas" part :) If you think it is a stupid idea, you can add a comment or just ignore it. I just tried to "help" with my limited possibilities. Linux is not my hobby, nor my business.
Learn how to fly before you comment on the plane's performance! :wink: You admit yourself Linux is not your hobby or your business. So why do you believe your comments are relevant? The things you pointed out are not issues with Linux, they are issues with YOURSELF!!! Well...Except maybe the wifi driver thing. I do not know what the real deal is there, what you say does not sound right, but I do not know if it was you that missed something or whether there is a problem with Mint here. But other than that, all you did was write a long paragraph on how you screwed up what should be a simple ten minute install. Try it again, in the time it took you to write that first post you would have learned from your previous mistakes and realized how easy Mint actually is to install (much easier than Windows) and how silly you are making yourself look here.
I am a little bit surprised about some of the responses and I realize that the problem is not with Linux, but with it's users. But in contrary with the majority of you, I refer to the not newbie users :)

And again: I am sad :D
Yeah, well...We are all elitists, you know! :roll:

Why don't you take responsibility for your own ignorance and learn from your mistakes? I don't think any of us had an easy time with our first Linux install. We all made many foolish mistakes and had stupid preconceived notions, especially those of us who were stronger Windows users. What they call "power users." It is true, the more you know about Windows the harder it seems to be to pick up Linux. You just think things need to be done a certain way and you become reluctant to adopt new methods. You need to forget everything you think you know and just immerse yourself in Linux.

You are correct that the problem is not with Linux. But it is not with Linux users either. I have nothing to do with you, don't blame me simply because I am pointing out your lack of understanding! The problem lies with you! Accept it! Learn from your mistakes! There is no such thing as a foolproof OS. Windows is not a foolproof OS. Mint is as easy as it gets. Why not spend the time it took you to write the posts in this thread and Google "partitioning scheme" and read up a little? Why not take the time it will take you to respond to this post and instead search this forum for threads of interest? Instead of getting into a pissing contest with me you may actually learn something! Why not wipe your drive and try reinstalling Mint? In fact, do it three times! Go ahead, play around, screw it up. It can be reinstalled in minutes. You have nothing to lose! Quit princess how nothing is right and just learn to use it the right way! The best things in life usually require some kind of time and commitment. Linux is no different. :D

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bodo.gabor, are you planning to continue on with Linux, and with Linux Mint, even after your Wednesday night experience, and after the response you've gotten in this thread? I'm very curious to know!

A few comments I'd like to make:
bodo.gabor wrote:Linux is not perfect.
So very true.
bodo.gabor wrote:From the previous comments we all saw that everyone tries to prove me that I am actually wrong and Linux is simpler than M$. My late night experience told me otherwise.
Well, one thing about that, if you had been using Linux for years and then tried to install Windows on a computer from scratch, you might have a different opinion about which one is simpler. Also, when you are as familiar with Linux as you probably are now with Windows, you might also have a different opinion about which one is simpler. Now that I know how to use Linux, it is Windows that seems more complicated! But maybe that's just me!
bodo.gabor wrote:I am a little bit surprised about some of the responses
I am, too. I didn't think all of that was necessary. Maybe it bothered some folks that you didn't come asking for help, but just came telling about your unpleasant experience, and then offered some suggestions that didn't seem to go over so well. Maybe some folks here decided they smelled a "troll."
bodo.gabor wrote:and I realize that the problem is not with Linux, but with it's users. But in contrary with the majority of you, I refer to the not newbie users
It's unfortunate, but sometimes that's true! But, only sometimes. Most Linux users are quite willing to help you out. All you have to do is ask. Take a look around these forums and you'll see what I mean.

Well, if you are not just a "troll" and you're interested in learning to use Linux then stick with it. Forget about any expectations you might have (like that it should be perfectly easy) and just learn how to use it. If you stick with it, you'll be happy that you did. Good luck!

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I, too am surprised by some of the reactions to the original post. I thought the OP was lighthearted and that he told his story in a humorous and self-deprecating manner, confessing his own ignorance and foolish choices to ignore warnings and blunder blindly forward; describing the results of such foolish blundering, and asking what might be done for fools like himself, who are great in number and still need to get on line with an awesome OS like Mint.

I guess I'm the only one who saw it that way... and I too am really surprised at the hostility that such a self-deprecating confessional plea elicited.

I must have totally missed something that the rest of you spotted instantly.

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MALsPa wrote:
bodo.gabor wrote:I am a little bit surprised about some of the responses
I am, too. I didn't think all of that was necessary. Maybe it bothered some folks that you didn't come asking for help, but just came telling about your unpleasant experience, and then offered some suggestions that didn't seem to go over so well. Maybe some folks here decided they smelled a "troll."
bodo.gabor wrote:and I realize that the problem is not with Linux, but with it's users. But in contrary with the majority of you, I refer to the not newbie users
It's unfortunate, but sometimes that's true! But, only sometimes. Most Linux users are quite willing to help you out. All you have to do is ask. Take a look around these forums and you'll see what I mean.

Well, if you are not just a "troll" and you're interested in learning to use Linux then stick with it. Forget about any expectations you might have (like that it should be perfectly easy) and just learn how to use it. If you stick with it, you'll be happy that you did. Good luck!
Robin wrote:I, too am surprised by some of the reactions to the original post. I thought the OP was lighthearted and that he told his story in a humorous and self-deprecating manner, confessing his own ignorance and foolish choices to ignore warnings and blunder blindly forward; describing the results of such foolish blundering, and asking what might be done for fools like himself, who are great in number and still need to get on line with an awesome OS like Mint.

I guess I'm the only one who saw it that way... and I too am really surprised at the hostility that such a self-deprecating confessional plea elicited.

I must have totally missed something that the rest of you spotted instantly.

-Robin
I would suggest that the two of you go back through this thread and read what actually transpired. I did, a couple times now.

After sad boy's initial post it was graciously pointed out to him, by a few members, that most of his problems were of his own creation. Yet he continues to blame Mint for his own errors. The truth is the Mint installer could not be any easier, but that is irrelevant. I would respond the same if he were using Arch or Gentoo! His is nothing more than a passive/aggressive troll. Something I have encountered for over a decade now. If he is merely a troll then great! I will play! I LOVE trolls! :D They are fun to play with. They have this motive that they want to prove how the open source community is full of nothing but elitist jerks that will only flame the poor noobs who are just trying to understand this great OS...Whatever...If you two want to feed into that then fine, you go right ahead and feed him. :twisted: But you are correct Robin, you ARE missing something. Maybe with a little more experience you will learn to spot this more easily. You are a nice guy, I understand you just want to help the guy out.

Which brings me to my second point. What if sad boy here is for real? He has proven that he is not by his last post, but what if he is being genuine here and really feels that Mint could be improved and he is just making honest suggestions on how? Well then, he needs to be shown that his complaints are irrelevant. He needs to be made to understand that his problems were NOT Mint's fault but due to his own shortcomings. He needs to come to terms with the idea that the world is NOT idiot-proof and that he needs to take responsibility for his own actions. Like any good parent I am just trying to get him to understand these things. It is called tough love. I love sad boy and I want him to succeed! I want him to learn to use and enjoy Linux. I want him to be HAPPY! Then I can call him happy boy! :lol: But he will not be able to until he understands that the world is not going to spoon feed him. He will have to help himself before others can help him.

That is the reason for my response and I do not apologize for it. He got what he deserves. If he wants to try again and if he has any problems then I would be glad to spend hours helping him work through them. I would be more than happy to explain partitioning to him if he would but ask! I would love to see him join this community and learn to use Mint and be HAPPY! There is no reason to be sad! Mint is wonderful, it is fun and exciting! But if he is going to keep riding the same old complaint train then I will be the first in line to try and show him the error of his thinking. If he wants to call it a day and leave Linux in a huff then so be it. It does not affect me! It is his life and his world. Use it or don't, it is your choice. But if you want to be taken seriously then you had better find some real flaws with Mint, not create your own through your own foolishness. Even with all the sadness his first post relates the time line still does not add up. It did not take six hours to go through all that foolishness, not unless he took some mighty long breaks. No, I took the first post seriously and my first response was gracious. But now I am smelling troll. Works for me! :wink:

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Robin wrote:I, too am surprised by some of the reactions to the original post.
Hi Robin

I think most of the really negative reactions were not to the original post, but to
the subsequent posts where his tone became somewhat petulant.

I was mildly amused at first, but after a while it just degenerated into Linux bashing.

The forum has been plagued with trolls and spammers recently so people are
more sensitive to newcomers who appear to have an axe to grind.

You know, he may be a good guy who was just having a bad day, but flaming
the forum regulars isn't the best way to ingratiate oneself. :wink:

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mick55 wrote:The forum has been plagued with trolls and spammers recently so people are
more sensitive to newcomers who appear to have an axe to grind.
Ah, sensitivity! :lol:

Well, if he wasn't a troll, I'm sure he learned something from the tongue-lashing he received here! Maybe he'll even come back to tell us what exactly he learned!

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MALsPa wrote:
mick55 wrote:The forum has been plagued with trolls and spammers recently so people are
more sensitive to newcomers who appear to have an axe to grind.
Ah, sensitivity! :lol:

Well, if he wasn't a troll, I'm sure he learned something from the tongue-lashing he received here! Maybe he'll even come back to tell us what exactly he learned!
Oh, I am pretty sure we can count on that! He will be along to check his bait directly. :D

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Wasn't there some whining about big updates here? Doesn't anybody remember the :lol: anti-virus :lol: and it's updates after a fresh install?
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Some of the responses were a bit too rough :?

for a nooby on the 1st install, having lots of things go wrong - is pretty much the norm.
& you won't know just what to expect & so press on - regardless.

&& they mostly wouldn't know that a newly downloaded .iso can be nearly six months old,
let alone that it has a heap of updates to perform.
- things aren't always that clear. :(
& they probably won't read the Mint manual until after they have got Mint installed ok.
I certainly didn't :shock: Even though it is available from the live cd.

Y'know - even win7 has a bunch of updates, now that it is some six months old . :o
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I think that this discussion lost it's point. It just should be closed and forgot :)

I don't even know what do you mean by "troll" but I' am not really interested in it, so, please, do not explain it to me :D

I am still using the Mint, after all I have a scope with it :) (the tale about the installation was just a side-effect and not the goal) and I don't want to waste my adventurous installation :)

I want to find out how can I work with PostgreSQL+Python and in general pc usage etc.

A little experience yesterday night:
I have a big screen Samsung television and I connected it to my laptop with an SVGA cable, the sound with a jack-to-jack cable. When I connected nothing happened (under windows 7 I was used to see the desktop in the TV as well). I tried to start the Control panel->Change display setting, but Linux got frozen again. (With the previously described freeze, this was the second time. Am I recorder with this, or what the heck?) After restart (without taking out the cables) it worked perfectly, I was able to watch my favorite "Futurama" episodes under Linux. After that I found out that if I just simply close the laptop it does not go to Suspend mode, I have to tell manually to go to suspend. Maybe it would be a good idea to go to suspend mode when the laptop is closed...

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bodo.gabor wrote:I think that this discussion lost it's point. It just should be closed and forgot :)

I don't even know what do you mean by "troll" but I' am not really interested in it, so, please, do not explain it to me :D

I am still using the Mint, after all I have a scope with it :) (the tale about the installation was just a side-effect and not the goal) and I don't want to waste my adventurous installation :)

I want to find out how can I work with PostgreSQL+Python and in general pc usage etc.

A little experience yesterday night:
I have a big screen Samsung television and I connected it to my laptop with an SVGA cable, the sound with a jack-to-jack cable. When I connected nothing happened (under windows 7 I was used to see the desktop in the TV as well). I tried to start the Control panel->Change display setting, but Linux got frozen again. (With the previously described freeze, this was the second time. Am I recorder with this, or what the heck?) After restart (without taking out the cables) it worked perfectly, I was able to watch my favorite "Futurama" episodes under Linux. After that I found out that if I just simply close the laptop it does not go to Suspend mode, I have to tell manually to go to suspend. Maybe it would be a good idea to go to suspend mode when the laptop is closed...
I'm glad you're sticking with it!

Don't worry about the "troll" accusations. As Pierre said:
Pierre wrote:Some of the responses were a bit too rough :?
But if you need help, just ask for it, I guess. Maybe start a new thread and let this one rest in peace. 8) Most people here will try to help you if you ask. Good luck!

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bodo.gabor wrote:I think that this discussion lost it's point. It just should be closed and forgot :)

I don't even know what do you mean by "troll" but I' am not really interested in it, so, please, do not explain it to me :D

I am still using the Mint, after all I have a scope with it :) (the tale about the installation was just a side-effect and not the goal) and I don't want to waste my adventurous installation :)

I want to find out how can I work with PostgreSQL+Python and in general pc usage etc.

A little experience yesterday night:
I have a big screen Samsung television and I connected it to my laptop with an SVGA cable, the sound with a jack-to-jack cable. When I connected nothing happened (under windows 7 I was used to see the desktop in the TV as well). I tried to start the Control panel->Change display setting, but Linux got frozen again. (With the previously described freeze, this was the second time. Am I recorder with this, or what the heck?) After restart (without taking out the cables) it worked perfectly, I was able to watch my favorite "Futurama" episodes under Linux. After that I found out that if I just simply close the laptop it does not go to Suspend mode, I have to tell manually to go to suspend. Maybe it would be a good idea to go to suspend mode when the laptop is closed...
Well, now that everything is set I hope you enjoy Mint. It is really a great distro.

I will be looking forward to future posts from you. :D

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Hmmm, no more posts from bodo.gabor/sad boy? In the entire forum? How predictable! :wink:

Too bad, I would like to know how he is coming. Does he still find Mint too complicated? No Monday night adventures installing something from the repo? :shock:

Come on bodo.gabor, your friends want to know how it is coming. :? :roll:

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Installing Mint is hardly an adventure for me. Insert CD or USB, reboot, click a few times, shazam! Reboot, install updates, reboot, tweak my post-install script, run script, reboot final time, addusers, test samba shares, test printer, test youtube, walk away from computer and leave it to my kids to use until I get bored enough with it.

My Mint "adventures" always come 6-12 months later when I decide to do something bonehead stupid like, for example, a major update that includes 5-level packages, something gets borked, one or more of the kids gets whiney because something isn't working right, and I have to go back to the start of this post to repeat everything fresh.

These days, I just ask "anything going wrong with that computer" and if I haven't touched it in a long time they're quick to tell me to go away and leave it alone.

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FedoraRefugee wrote:Hmmm, no more posts from bodo.gabor/sad boy? In the entire forum?
Sorry Renegade guy, I am a little bit busy nowadays.

Still, another thing which confused me. I installed PostgreSQL from the download from the PostgreSQL site. It was working and I was happy :)

Later, in the the Software Manager (or something like that) I observed that Mint can install PostgreSQL from there. But for me it wasn't marked as installed. So I decided to install from there, just to be sure that I did the right thing. During the installation it asked me if I want to replace the original config file .... oooo... tough decision. But whatever, do it baby. Since than PostgreSQL is not working ... I am sad :( I will try to uninstall/install again, maybe I will succeed again to get it working.

Another annoying thing is, that when I start the Software Manager, most of the times says that it can't get the mouse focus and is not starting. I have to start 9-10 times until it "gets the focus" and is willing to start.

Another question, does anyone have experience with the Amazon cloud thing? The marketing stuff is really interesting that I don't need infrastructure and is sizable but the technical bumbo-jumbo I did not understand. Is it working like a hosting with sizable resources? I saw on the Ubuntu site that there is a special option for Ubuntu, but I suppose I could use Mint in this cloud, can't I? My idea would be, to host a Mint, and all my users would connect there and do their job in this "cloud". I would have control over their work and they could work even from home. It would solve a lot of problems for me :) Of course I would need another cloud for my frontend applications etc... or am I completely lost? :)

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Re: "The adventure of a Linux Mint installation Wednesday ni

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Oh, one more update: I found out that TrueCrypt is working perfectly under Mint, I am happy :) I can use my USB sticks. But that bastard KeyPass is not working, I had to export my passwords and now I am keeping an excel file on the encrypted USB stick. I tried the KeyRing (or how it is called) in Mint, but I miss the password generation/copy+paste feature KeyPass offered.

Another great thing, I found VirtualBox! This is a really great stuff. I tried to have a Win7 installation under Mint, to have my favorite Unreal Tournament 2003, yet without success. I tried some free variants but they are dead weak against UT2003. Will it be possible to run it?

Another notation, I have a three year old Dell Inspiron 6400. It has some media controller buttons on the front (like mute, sound up/down, start/stop) and they are not working ... any idea what to do with it?

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Re: "The adventure of a Linux Mint installation Wednesday ni

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Well, glad to hear you are still around sad boy! I am happy! :lol:

I can't much help with your particular problems, only to say that you will usually want to install from the repos if given the choice. This time PostgreSQL from their site was working and I am sure that when you installed it again from the repo you caused a conflict. I would agree with your assessment that you could easily just get PostgreSQL from their site again, especially as you use this database. (and you claim you are not a nerd!!! :roll: )

When you compile something from outside source it will not put "hooks" into your package management system, this is why it was not showing as installed in the software manager. In fact, the actual package in the software manager was not installed, but that is a moot point. It is usually best to install all your packages through the package manager but understand that sometimes building from the actual package site will yield a later version of that package. For instance, I usually use Open Office direct from their site and just manually update it when needed.

The mouse losing focus is a Gnome bug. Read this:

http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... se#p179038

I have no experience with amazon cloud (you are SURE you are not a nerd?) but using Mint is the same as Ubuntu. They should never know the difference. Mint is Ubuntu.

I hate keyring too. I really dislike Gnome. I use Xfce which is also GTK and can easily use Gnome tools such as panel apps. You may find it a bit limiting on the networking side though but you may consider trying it out. I always find many silly little bugs in the Gnome edition of Mint that usually do not carry through to the Xfce version.

VirtualBox is awesome! I have used it and vmware for years! But they still come up short for most 3D games. But you are in luck Unreal Tournament 2003 can be run in Linux! I will let you develop your Google skills here though! :D

Most media bars on laptops and keyboards will not work right under Linux. Most do recognize the volume buttons though you may want to do some Google research on this also, you never know. But I wouldn't hold out much hope. :?

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