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Firewalls and virus scanners please!

Postby Lou » Sun Dec 09, 2007 5:00 am

Thanks for Mint! This is the first distro that lets me get online, sees my cdrom, and even lets me install things without asking me to do something unseemly with a make-config - I dunno - what command in some Bash critter that hates me. I'm on Cassandra at the moment and I'm happily downloading Daryna.

I only have one complaint, but it's a huge deal, because it goes to the heart of why I'm a Microsoft refugee with a six hundred page Linux book and a headache from banging my head repeatedly against the keyboard and screaming, "I am so root!" And that complaint is startup security.

I guess I want to see a distro that boots to a giant orange-red firewall icon with "Install me now!" written on it.

If I then somehow fail to see it and try to configure my network without a proper setup, I want it to yell at me.

Since I'm so new to Linux, I'd be fine if the firewall then tells me it will install itself, and that if watching the progression bar gives me the fidgets, I'm welcome to go grab a cup of tea and come back in five minutes.

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Re: Firewalls and virus scanners please!

Postby Husse » Sun Dec 09, 2007 8:41 am

There is no need for anti virus, but if you dual boot with Win you might install an on demand scanner to secure your windows.
There is no need for a firewall if you're behind a router as a lot of people are. But if you're connected directly to the net you may need one. Firestarter could be a good alternative
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Re: Firewalls and virus scanners please!

Postby Telecaster72 » Sat Dec 29, 2007 7:41 pm

You already are behind a firewall called iptables and have no open ports by default, a frontend for iptables is called "firestarter" as mentioned above. So there is no need for a huge install-button, since the firewall is already installed.

There is others that can explain this better than me i am sure, but the way Linux is set up with root (sudo) and user, a virus can not do much damage on your system unless it is written for Linux and you execute it yourself and give it clearance with your password. There is malicious code , see: http://ubuntuforums.org/announcement.php?f=13 ,but that is also something you have to put in yourself.
As Linux grows more popular there will probaly be more viruses for it, but i think the XP way of getting a virus by visiting a website or opening a mail is nothing you have to worry about.

I would not loose any sleep over viruses if i were you, give Linux some more time and you will forget all about it (until you hear friends at work discussing wich virusprograms is the best and think: oh yes i used to be there;-))

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Re: Firewalls and virus scanners please!

Postby mumbo719 » Sat Dec 29, 2007 7:53 pm

The above posts about iptables is correct. If you feel better having a GUI get Firestarter from the software portal http://linuxmint.com/software/?sec=item&id=176.

I haven't run virus software in over a year on Linux and haven't had a problem.

So again, if it makes you sleep better at night having one you can get Clam AV also from the software portal.

http://linuxmint.com/software/?sec=category&id=18&release=2 Clam AV is the 3rd option down
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Re: Firewalls and virus scanners please!

Postby Telecaster72 » Sun Dec 30, 2007 10:55 am

Found an article about a Mac virus pretending to be a multimedia codec.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7079777.stm

That virus was for Mac, but something similar could happen with any *nix system.
The way it worked shows how you yourself has to grant it access to your machine by typing your password.
But if you stick to the official Mint and Ubuntu repositories, these kind of things is of no concern to you.

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Re: Firewalls and virus scanners please!

Postby ricky » Fri Jan 04, 2008 7:28 pm

virus scanners? we don't neeed no stinkin virus scanners!

no really every virus out there for linux has to be compiled and ran as root to hurt your system


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