[SOLVED] No option to "Install Mint Alongside WindowsXP"

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[SOLVED] No option to "Install Mint Alongside WindowsXP"

Postby arniepeters » Sat Aug 12, 2017 3:39 am

Hello,

I'm trying to install Mint 18.2 Sonya Cinnamon 32 bit on a Dell Latitude D420, XP Professional SP3, Intel Core Duo U2500 @ 1.2GHz; 2GB RAM.

I used the same install disk a few weeks back on a different laptop, and then offered me an option to install mint alongside my XP, which I did and it works great.

On this Dell, it does not give me the option to install alongside XP. Just 4 boxes: Erase, Encrypt, Use LVM, and Something Else.

Can anyone help me in solving this issue, as I want to have the option for both Mint and my old XP.

Some diagnostic details below from the research I have done so far, but can't find any ways to solve this. Thanks!

mint@mint ~ $ sudo parted -l
Model: ATA TOSHIBA MK8009GA (scsi)
Disk /dev/sda: 80.0GB
Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
Partition Table: msdos
Disk Flags:

Number Start End Size Type File system Flags
1 32.3kB 80.0GB 80.0GB primary ntfs boot


Warning: Unable to open /dev/sr0 read-write (Read-only file system). /dev/sr0
has been opened read-only.
Error: Invalid partition table - recursive partition on /dev/sr0.
Ignore/Cancel?

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mint@mint ~ $ lsblk
NAME MAJ:MIN RM SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT
sr0 11:0 1 1.6G 0 rom /cdrom
loop0 7:0 0 1.5G 1 loop /rofs
sda 8:0 0 74.5G 0 disk
└─sda1 8:1 0 74.5G 0 part
mint@mint ~ $

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mint@mint ~ $ inxi
CPU~Dual core Intel Core Duo U2500 (-MCP-) speed/max~800/1200 MHz Kernel~4.8.0-53-generic i686 Up~14 min Mem~424.9/2003.6MB HDD~NA(-) Procs~175 Client~Shell inxi~2.2.35
mint@mint ~ $
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Re: No option to "Install Mint Alongside WindowsXP"

Postby michael louwe » Sat Aug 12, 2017 4:24 am

@ arniepeters, .......

Likely, the problem is because the Win XP system already has the maximum 4 primary partitions, eg Drive C, D, E and F. If so, use the GParted program which is included in the Live LM 18.2 DVD/USB-key, to delete one of the primary partitions, in order to accommodate the install of LM alongside Win XP.

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Re: No option to "Install Mint Alongside WindowsXP"

Postby mr_raider » Sat Aug 12, 2017 7:34 am

That is not the case here as parted lists only 1 partition.

There are several reasons why this may happen:

Windows was hibernated rather then shut down.
Windows was not properly shut down. (Perhaps there was a power failure, or it bluescreened last time it ran?)
The Windows partition is too full to be shrunk.
The Windows partition cannot be shrunk because the files in it are too badly fragmented, preventing them from being constrained to exist only within the new boundaries.
The Windows partition cannot be shrunk because of immovable files near the boundary.
The drive has been formatted as a "Windows Dynamic Disk" - Ubuntu can not be installed on a Dynamic Disk, you will need to convert the drive to a Basic Disk.


ANd another one not mentioned in that list is sometimes grub doesn't want to fit innthe small space before the first partition.

Start by using gparted in the live session and see if you can shrink your windows partition down to around 60-65 gigs. If that fails, you need to go into windows, defragment your drive, and move your windows swap file to the start of the disk as a contguous block.
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Re: No option to "Install Mint Alongside WindowsXP"

Postby arniepeters » Sat Aug 12, 2017 12:55 pm

thanks all.

yes, I only have one C: drive on XP

the other options also don't make sense here, the only one is "dynamic" vs "basic" disk?

can you offer suggestions on how to check this and/or correct the situation?

thanks again

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Re: No option to "Install Mint Alongside WindowsXP"

Postby arniepeters » Sat Aug 12, 2017 12:59 pm

plus, i did do all defrag and chkdsk procedures before trying the Linux install

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Re: No option to "Install Mint Alongside WindowsXP"

Postby arniepeters » Sat Aug 12, 2017 1:02 pm

move your windows swap file to the start of the disk as a contguous block


how do i do this?

thanks.

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Re: No option to "Install Mint Alongside WindowsXP"

Postby austin.texas » Sat Aug 12, 2017 2:05 pm

With a 80GB hard drive, and 74.5GB taken up by WIndows, you will have to reduce the size of your Windows partition to have enough room for Mint.
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Re: No option to "Install Mint Alongside WindowsXP"

Postby arniepeters » Wed Aug 16, 2017 2:42 am

Thanks all.

Shrinking the windows partition to 60 gB did the trick.

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Re: I have often wondered why install was so confusing on this point?

Postby vintagepen » Tue Aug 22, 2017 1:36 pm

Is that really all there is to it when install doesnt see the windows OS at the beginning of the installation procedure?

Just let it resize the partition as it suggests, proceed with the installation; let it finish / install GRUB? After which it will automatically see the windows OS and set up GRUB accordingly?

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Re: I have often wondered why install was so confusing on this point?

Postby austin.texas » Tue Aug 22, 2017 2:11 pm

vintagepen wrote:Is that really all there is to it when install doesnt see the windows OS at the beginning of the installation procedure?

Just let it resize the partition as it suggests, proceed with the installation; let it finish / install GRUB? After which it will automatically see the windows OS and set up GRUB accordingly?

Not necessarily. That worked for this person with his configuration. There is no guarantee that your situation will work the same.
It would be best for you to create a new thread with any question, or problem, you have.
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Re: [SOLVED] No option to "Install Mint Alongside WindowsXP"

Postby vintagepen » Tue Aug 22, 2017 2:26 pm

Well I have often completed installation in this way after install didnt tell me that it has found windows on the drive and cant remember the last time anything went wrong. But you are suggesting that putting a note on the gpartd page saying not to worry and that install will pick up the windows OS when install implements GRUB is not a good idea?


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