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No wired or wireless connection :(

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 10:43 pm
by crossingover
First of all, Hello to everyone! I've taken the leap into Linux. I'm very new to all this but after successfully installing
Linux on one machine and loving it I am excited at the thought of not having to deal with the MS operating system.
This is my first post so my tech speak may be a little off.

Here is my problem.
I am installing mint 13 maya mate 64bit on my laptop (brand new toshiba)
I disabled UEIF and got it to boot up.
Clicked the install linux mint icon and when I got to the part where you need to have
an internet connection to continue I realized that I didn't have one. Wired or Wireless.

The internet icon (lower right) only shows a red x and cable.

"inxi -nz" produces:
card-1 Atheros Device 10a1
card-2 Intel Device 08b1

I've scoured the forums and net and although I have tried a half dozen things it's not working yet.
Called my buddy who got me into Linux in the first place and he started raving about these linux forums
so here I am. When I was searching through these forums for an answer I did notice right away how
not only willing people were to help but extremely detailed in the help so I just want to thank this
forum and everyone in advance for your help.

Randy

Re: No wired or wireless connection :(

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 11:02 pm
by NuxNubkins
You may need to create a live USB stick with persistence, then download a package or two containing the drivers for your networking components. The forum member gold_finger has a good handle on such a process, so I would search through their recent posts for a tutorial. APTonCD is another option, but the trick is finding the proper package that'll get your networking devices running in Linux.

Re: No wired or wireless connection :(

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 11:43 pm
by crossingover
NuxNubkins wrote:You may need to create a live USB stick with persistence, then download a package or two containing the drivers for your networking components. The forum member gold_finger has a good handle on such a process, so I would search through their recent posts for a tutorial. APTonCD is another option, but the trick is finding the proper package that'll get your networking devices running in Linux.
Thanks Nux for the reply :)
I'm hoping you or someone else can help further because I dont know what live USB stick with persistence is :(
Also where do I download the packages from? I looked through gold_fingers post(not all but alot) He has
17 pages of post! I cant use the Synaptic Package Manager as I dont have an internet connection.

RAndy

Re: No wired or wireless connection :(

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 1:32 am
by crossingover
NuxNubkins wrote:You may need to create a live USB stick with persistence, then download a package or two containing the drivers for your networking components. The forum member gold_finger has a good handle on such a process, so I would search through their recent posts for a tutorial. APTonCD is another option, but the trick is finding the proper package that'll get your networking devices running in Linux.
Ok, I think I figured out the persistence thing. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Creating a usb with persistence is basically putting the iso of the distribution you want on a usb/flash drive
but doing it using a special program like "live usb creator"

Could someone explain to me how to find out what drivers I need and where to get them.

Randy

Re: No wired or wireless connection :(

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 2:11 am
by NuxNubkins
Search for Atheros and Intel Wifi and Ethernet both, since inxi didn't really make a distinction between the two. If you can locate the drivers in a .deb package, you may install that using GDebi, which runs when you simply double click a .deb file. I did that and put the driver on a USB stick so that I could install it when I got into Linux. Search for the laptop's model number and append "Linux Drivers" to the search if you don't happen to find a package with the previous terms. You may need to compile the source for the drivers, meaning that they exist only as source code documents (usually with a .cpp and .h extension) and there are tutorials that exist on how to do this. Fortunately, I believe Cinnamon comes with build-essential, so you should be able to compile without needing to download it. Something you may also try is use a Mint 16 live DVD to obtain the package, since Mint 16 Cinnamon recognizes and has a driver that works for my wifi USB dongle, where 15 did not. It was because of this I tried Mint 15 KDE, and it had none of the driver issues I experienced with Cinnamon, but your mileage may vary.

EDIT: Just scrolled back up and saw that you're using MATE. I haven't tried that DE yet, but if you're not set on it, give KDE a try. I really like it.

Re: No wired or wireless connection :(

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 3:40 am
by crossingover
First of all, thanks for all your help! I think I will take your suggestion and try a different distro.
I'm not tied to mint/mate, it's just the first one I tried on my other computer and I really liked it.
I know one thing, and that is any distro out there is going to be 100 times better then windows..LOL
I "Will Not" go back to the dark side :twisted:
I just installed the boot disk for Zorin distro and it works fine. Dont know if I like it or not but I do
know, like you said, there are others that will work just fine.

I'll find them, try them and then pick the one I like the best. It will be fun trying different distros in
the mean time :D

Blessings,
Randy

Re: No wired or wireless connection :(

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 10:49 pm
by crossingover
Ok, that was easy.
I didn't fix my wireless driver problem with mint 13 mate but.......
I did fix my wireless driver problem by installing mint 16 mate.
And heres the cool thing:

Mint 16 mate has the exact same interface as 13 mate but the internet works, both wireless and wired.

Thanks Nux for the suggestion.

Randy

Re: No wired or wireless connection :(

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:34 am
by NuxNubkins
Not a problem. I went up to the Mint 16 KDE RC, and I'm enjoying it. Still haven't gotten around to trying MATE, but I think I'll be sticking with KDE for awhile, as long as Ubuntu doesn't pull the rug out from under Mint.