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[SOLVED] Newby Install - 17.1 no hardware accel..

Post by ozstar » Tue Apr 07, 2015 3:43 am

Hi,

I have XP and want a dual boot Linux to test my websites.

I have 17.1 on DVD and trying it out.

It took ages to show the screen but I do haver it now with the panel .. Cinnamon running without video etc.

It is on an older laptop, but Zorin 9 ranwithout any problems.

Seems like all the icon links work fine and I like what I see.

What is the best way for me to proceed please?

Thanks

oz
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Re: Newby Install - 17.1 no hardware accel..

Post by Pjotr » Tue Apr 07, 2015 4:47 am

Please generate an overview of your system like this:
- launch a terminal window and make it fullscreen, to avoid chopped lines;
- copy/paste this command into the terminal:

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inxi -Fxz
(if you type: the letter F is a capital letter)

Press Enter.

Copy/paste the output in your next message.
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Re: Newby Install - 17.1 no hardware accel..

Post by kc1di » Tue Apr 07, 2015 5:25 am

Hello ozstar and welcome to Mint,

Well you didn't give much info on your machine -- But if it has XP on it , it must be a few years old. and if that is the case Cinnamon may not be the best choice of desktops for that machine. I would say Mate or XFCE would be a better fit.

That being said if you want a dual boot set up you'll have to make some room on the windows partition for Linux to be installed on. It's been a long time since I worked with an XP machine- so not sure how to do that in xp but this web sight may help. good Luck.

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Re: Newby Install - 17.1 no hardware accel..

Post by ozstar » Tue Apr 07, 2015 6:37 am

HI,

Many thanks for the help..

Yes I have got a new partition I would put Linux on.


mint@mint ~ $ inxi -Fxz
System: Host: mint Kernel: 3.13.0-37-generic i686 (32 bit, gcc: 4.8.2) Desktop: Gnome Distro: Linux Mint 17.1 Rebecca
Machine: System: 56548 (portable) product: N34AS1 version: 1.0
Mobo: 00000 model: N34AS1 version: 1.0 Bios: American Megatrends version: 07.00T date: 04/02/01
CPU: Single core Intel Pentium 4 CPU (-UP-) cache: 512 KB flags: (sse sse2) bmips: 3983.97 clocked at 1991.989 MHz
Graphics: Card: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 65x/M650/740 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter bus-ID: 01:00.0
X.Org: 1.15.1 driver: vesa Resolution: 1024x768@61.0hz
GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.4, 128 bits) GLX Version: 2.1 Mesa 10.1.3 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio: Card: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS7012 AC'97 Sound Controller driver: snd_intel8x0 ports: dc00 d800 bus-ID: 00:02.7
Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture ver: k3.13.0-37-generic
Network: Card: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS900 PCI Fast Ethernet driver: sis900 port: cc00 bus-ID: 00:03.0
IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives: HDD Total Size: 160.0GB (-) 1: id: /dev/sda model: SAMSUNG_HM160JC size: 160.0GB temp: 53C
Partition: ID: / size: 232M used: 36M (16%) fs: overlayfs
RAID: No RAID devices detected - /proc/mdstat and md_mod kernel raid module present
Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 75.0C mobo: N/A
Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info: Processes: 126 Uptime: 12 min Memory: 233.6/463.6MB Runlevel: 2 Gcc sys: 4.8.2 Client: Shell inxi: 1.8.4
mint@mint ~ $

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Re: Newby Install - 17.1 no hardware accel..

Post by Pjotr » Tue Apr 07, 2015 6:43 am

For that old machine, with so little RAM, I advise lightweight Linux Mint 13 Xfce (32 bit). Cinnamon and Mate are too heavy.
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Re: Newby Install - 17.1 no hardware accel..

Post by nomko » Tue Apr 07, 2015 6:55 am

Graphics: Card: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 65x/M650/740 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter bus-ID: 01:00.0
X.Org: 1.15.1 driver: vesa Resolution: 1024x768@61.0hz
That's your problem! You have the all known trouble making SiS AGP/VGA GPU onboard..... Basically, there isn't no driver for Linux for this type of GPU other than the "standard" driver available in the repository: xserver-xorg-video-sis. Check in synaptic of this package is installed. If not, install it and reboot your system. Although there are drivers available for your GPU, they are rather old (just say really old...), last update was in 2002. And the other drawback, tey are meant for Red Hat...


I must say, you have a very outdated system, low CPU spec's and low memory spec's. Better to use a lightweight operating system like LXLE or Min Xfce...

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Re: Newby Install - 17.1 no hardware accel..

Post by ozstar » Tue Apr 07, 2015 10:34 pm

Many thanks guys..

I got done 13 Xfce 32 and have installed it on that laptop. Seems to be fine.. Juts gotr to get my head into it now :-)

One thing though where you might be able to assist me.

Prior to installing Mint I created a partition of 5+Gb from some of my b30GB XP one. It shows it is there just fine.

Now When I installed Mint, I chose the Dual next to Windows and it created its own partition which I see in XP as 477MB.

I imagine that this is a very small area for Mint and maye it needs much more to operate smoothly.

I would like to either put the 477MB into the 5GB or merge them.

I have the Free EaseUS Partition Manager but in the partition listings it shows those 2 partitions with no name but a *.

There does not seem to be a place where I can choose to merge them.

Any ideas please?

Thanks again thus far.

oz

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Re: Newby Install - 17.1 no hardware accel..

Post by wayne128 » Tue Apr 07, 2015 10:43 pm

What you can do is to check the partitions in details from running Linuxmint 13-xfce

1. Boot and run from Linuxmint 13

2. open a terminal, type these codes , copy all the terminal output and post here

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sudo fdisk -l

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sudo parted -l

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Re: Newby Install - 17.1 no hardware accel..

Post by ozstar » Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:48 am

Hi,

Did that with this result..

david@Star-One-Mint ~ $ sudo fdisk -l
[sudo] password for david:

Disk /dev/sda: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders, total 312581808 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x04ab175a

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 * 63 69641774 34820856 7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
/dev/sda2 69642238 312576704 121467233+ f W95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/sda5 81915498 204796619 61440561 7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
/dev/sda6 204796683 312576704 53890011 7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
/dev/sda7 69642240 80934911 5646336 83 Linux
/dev/sda8 80936960 81913855 488448 82 Linux swap / Solaris

Partition table entries are not in disk order
david@Star-One-Mint ~ $ sudo parted -l
Model: ATA SAMSUNG HM160JC (scsi)
Disk /dev/sda: 160GB
Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
Partition Table: msdos

Number Start End Size Type File system Flags
1 32.3kB 35.7GB 35.7GB primary ntfs boot
2 35.7GB 160GB 124GB extended lba
7 35.7GB 41.4GB 5782MB logical ext4
8 41.4GB 41.9GB 500MB logical linux-swap(v1)
5 41.9GB 105GB 62.9GB logical ntfs
6 105GB 160GB 55.2GB logical ntfs


david@Star-One-Mint ~ $

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Re: Newby Install - 17.1 no hardware accel..

Post by wayne128 » Wed Apr 08, 2015 2:04 am

Now When I installed Mint, I chose the Dual next to Windows and it created its own partition which I see in XP as 477MB.

I imagine that this is a very small area for Mint and maye it needs much more to operate smoothly.
The 477MB WinXP sees is the Linux Swap at /dev/sda8
8 41.4GB 41.9GB 500MB logical linux-swap(v1)
I would like to either put the 477MB into the 5GB or merge them.

I have the Free EaseUS Partition Manager but in the partition listings it shows those 2 partitions with no name but a *.

There does not seem to be a place where I can choose to merge them.
Your ram is only about 512M.
You should let the 500M Swap stayed on.

Do not merge it.

and by the way, setting Linux OS to 5G is quite small, that means you cannot install too many programs, also you cannot store too many data . each time you have large data you need to manage them by storing at the ntfs partitions..

otherwise when your Linux OS usage is closer to 5G size, your OS will run extremely slow or even stop running.

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Re: Newby Install - 17.1 no hardware accel..

Post by ozstar » Wed Apr 08, 2015 2:12 am

Many thanks..

I must check my RAM as thought there was more, maybe some gone bad, however..

Am I right to assume that Mint is already in the 5GB partition? If not, where is it ? :?

I will free up more Windows space so I can increase the Mint area.

I need to ask more questions about other things, should I open new threads for theme\ ?

Thanks again,

oz
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Re: Newby Install - 17.1 no hardware accel..

Post by wayne128 » Wed Apr 08, 2015 2:24 am

You running Mint13 to capture these terminal response.

Of course Mint was already installed on the hard disk.

It is at the partition 7
7 35.7GB 41.4GB 5782MB logical ext4
/dev/sda7 69642240 80934911 5646336 83 Linux

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Re: Newby Install - 17.1 no hardware accel..

Post by tbellas3rd » Wed Apr 08, 2015 4:26 am

I would recommend Lubuntu 14.04.2, yes I know its not a MINT flavor, but its current and supports very low end machines.

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Re: Newby Install - 17.1 no hardware accel..

Post by ozstar » Wed Apr 08, 2015 8:49 pm

Thank you very much guys. I really do appreciate the help.

I did try Lubuntu and see what you mean that it woud be more suitable for that old XP box, but I have decided to forget this box and go with another.

I really do like the Mint flavour :-) so will open another thread and try to get 17.1 or I see now 2 on my Win7 HP laptop.

Thanks again.

oz

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