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Linux Mint x86 or x64 when 3 GB RAM

Post by ovisergiu » Tue Nov 07, 2017 10:34 am

Hello!
What version of Linux Mint should I install on an Emachines laptop with Pentium Dual Core CPU T4500@2.30 GHz, 3 GB RAM, x86 or x64 version of Linux Mint? I really don t know.
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PC: LM 19 Cinnamon (3.8.8), x64, Intel Core i5-3570 CPU @3.40 GHz, 8 GB RAM, 60 GB SSD
Emachines e725 laptop: LM 19 XFCE x64, 3 GB RAM, Dual core Pentium T4500 (-MCP-) cache:1024 KB, Graphic Intel Mobile 4 Series Integrated Graphics Controller

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Re: Linux Mint x86 or x64 when 3 GB RAM

Post by MintBean » Tue Nov 07, 2017 12:07 pm

64 bit. 32 bit is a losing game at this stage. Support is slowly being dropped.

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Re: Linux Mint x86 or x64 when 3 GB RAM

Post by JoeFootball » Tue Nov 07, 2017 12:08 pm

ovisergiu wrote:... Emachines laptop with Pentium Dual Core CPU T4500@2.30 GHz, 3 GB RAM ...
Given the specs, I'd suggest focusing more on the desktop, trying Xfce over Cinnamon, specifically LM 18.2 Xfce 32-bit, or even LM 17.3 Xfce 32-bit (still supported until April 2019).

That said, it is a 64-bit processor, so assuming that the rest of the infrastructure is as well, you can try 64-bit version of LM as well. I know that some software packages are no longer developing for 32-bit, so you may have more options in that regard.

So the real answer (in my personal opinion) is try multiple versions, and select the one that performs best.

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Re: Linux Mint x86 or x64 when 3 GB RAM

Post by ovisergiu » Tue Nov 07, 2017 12:38 pm

Thank you ver much!
I chose xfce x64.
PC: LM 19 Cinnamon (3.8.8), x64, Intel Core i5-3570 CPU @3.40 GHz, 8 GB RAM, 60 GB SSD
Emachines e725 laptop: LM 19 XFCE x64, 3 GB RAM, Dual core Pentium T4500 (-MCP-) cache:1024 KB, Graphic Intel Mobile 4 Series Integrated Graphics Controller

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Re: Linux Mint x86 or x64 when 3 GB RAM

Post by ovisergiu » Tue Dec 26, 2017 3:11 pm

I come back to tell you that after using for 2 days the XFCE version, I switched to Cinnamon (no reason, just curiosity).
XFCE worked so smooth on my laptop, but Cinnamon is really slow, the same as Windows 7 is slow on the exact same laptop.
Why? What should I do? Is it my laptop or did I do something wrong?
PC: LM 19 Cinnamon (3.8.8), x64, Intel Core i5-3570 CPU @3.40 GHz, 8 GB RAM, 60 GB SSD
Emachines e725 laptop: LM 19 XFCE x64, 3 GB RAM, Dual core Pentium T4500 (-MCP-) cache:1024 KB, Graphic Intel Mobile 4 Series Integrated Graphics Controller

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Re: Linux Mint x86 or x64 when 3 GB RAM

Post by BigEasy » Tue Dec 26, 2017 3:30 pm

No, it is no your laptop. Cinnamon is heavy DE (fork of GNOME 3). XFCE is light. And having your laptop I would install not Cinnamon, not XFCE but MATE.
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Post by ovisergiu » Tue Dec 26, 2017 3:44 pm

I guess that means I should install MATE from the begining, right?
PC: LM 19 Cinnamon (3.8.8), x64, Intel Core i5-3570 CPU @3.40 GHz, 8 GB RAM, 60 GB SSD
Emachines e725 laptop: LM 19 XFCE x64, 3 GB RAM, Dual core Pentium T4500 (-MCP-) cache:1024 KB, Graphic Intel Mobile 4 Series Integrated Graphics Controller

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Re: Linux Mint x86 or x64 when 3 GB RAM

Post by BigEasy » Tue Dec 26, 2017 3:54 pm

Yes at last. But initially you probably just need to see what is MATE. Who knows, maybe you will not like it. I like MATE because it's almost same light as XFCE + nothing need to customize. So said, - install and forget. Once installed, you immediately get a ready-to-use interface very similar to traditional Windows.
If you like it too then only clean Mint MATE install.
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Re: Linux Mint x86 or x64 when 3 GB RAM

Post by ovisergiu » Tue Dec 26, 2017 4:52 pm

I will try it tomorrow!
Stupid Question> Linux Mint MATE or Ubuntu MATE for my laptop?
PC: LM 19 Cinnamon (3.8.8), x64, Intel Core i5-3570 CPU @3.40 GHz, 8 GB RAM, 60 GB SSD
Emachines e725 laptop: LM 19 XFCE x64, 3 GB RAM, Dual core Pentium T4500 (-MCP-) cache:1024 KB, Graphic Intel Mobile 4 Series Integrated Graphics Controller

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Re: Linux Mint x86 or x64 when 3 GB RAM

Post by JerryF » Tue Dec 26, 2017 5:54 pm

ovisergiu wrote:I come back to tell you that after using for 2 days the XFCE version, I switched to Cinnamon (no reason, just curiosity).
XFCE worked so smooth on my laptop, but Cinnamon is really slow, the same as Windows 7 is slow on the exact same laptop.
Why? What should I do? Is it my laptop or did I do something wrong?
If XFCE is working smoothly and you like it, I'd stay with it. Many members on these forums use XFCE.
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Re: Linux Mint x86 or x64 when 3 GB RAM

Post by Mute Ant » Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:13 am

The Special Effects Department do extra animation, fades and shading with a 'big' desktop environment. That's cheap when you have lots of RAM, multiple CPU cores and a graphics processor... Cinnamon dialog: Draws and erases rectangles growing out of the corner of the screen to animate the opening... then draws a rectangle with text in it and fades it up to the front of the screen.

It's expensive when one CPU has to do everything on a small budget... XFCE dialog: Draws a rectangle with text in it and splats it onto the front of the screen.

The distributions I have tried seem to prefer XFCE when the desktop is not a feature. I guess that's a hint that XFCE is robust and easy to program. Like Windows 95 and all the others since, it does the job. If you don't like thunar you can install-and-alias caja as the default. If you don't like xfce4-panel you can install-and-alias mate-panel instead.

It's not widely advertised that the design of a CPU has drifted into the looks-like-software department. 32-bit opcodes, assemblers and compilers are older, standing on a longer history of development and debugging. It's no accident that LMDE Betsy starts off with a 586 kernel and runs on anything.
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