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18.2 goes to a black screen and won't boot

Post by Jlvs2run » Fri Dec 08, 2017 1:54 pm

A fresh install of 18.2 xfce goes to a black screen, won't boot, and won't reset with ctrl-alt-del.
I put the / mount point as shown in step 5, and also changed it in terminal but it doesn't stay mounted.
My previous version of mint 17.2 xfce has the / mount point and continues to boot fine, after arrowing down in the menu.

Here's the boot menu which looks fine.

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*Linux Mint 18.2 XFCE 64-bit
Advanced options for Linux Minut 18.2 XFCE 64-bit
Memory test (memtest 86+)
Memory test (memtest 86+, serial console 115200)
Linux Mint 17.2 Rafaela (17.2) (on /dev/sda5)
Advanced options for Linux Mint 17.2 Rafaela (17.2) (on /dev/sda5)
Here's the gparted screen from the live usb.
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Re: 18.2 goes to a black screen and won't boot

Post by michael louwe » Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:16 am

@ Jivs2run, .......
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Maybe, the / or Root partition of LM 18.2 should have been a Primary partition and not a Logical partition.

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Re: 18.2 goes to a black screen and won't boot

Post by Sgthawker » Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:56 am

Jlvs2run wrote:A fresh install of 18.2 xfce with manual partitioning goes to a black screen and won't boot.
I put the / mount point as shown in step 5, and also changed it in terminal but it doesn't stay mounted.
My previous version of mint 17.2 xfce has the / mount point and continues to boot fine, after arrowing down in the menu.

The black screen won't reset with ctrl-alt-del. Here's the boot menu which looks fine.

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*LInux Mint 18.2 XFCE 64-bit
Advanced options for Linux Minut 18.2 XFCE 64-bit
Memory test (mentest 86+)
Menory test (mentest 86+, serial console 115200)
Linux Mint 17.2 Rafaela (17.2) (on /dev/sda5)
Advanced options for Linux Mint 17.2 Rafaela (17.2) (on /dev/sda5)
I see the "I" in Linux Mint is a capital letter for 18.2, but is a small "i" for 17.2. Can a syntax error cause this issue?

@michael louwe the 18.2 / is primary, the 17.2 / is logical in the extended partition and is operational. I believe grub or lilo must be primary, but other Linux partitions can be logical including root.
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Re: 18.2 goes to a black screen and won't boot

Post by Jlvs2run » Sat Dec 09, 2017 11:18 am

Sgthawker wrote:I see the "I" in Linux Mint is a capital letter for 18.2, but is a small "i" for 17.2. Can a syntax error cause this issue?
Sorry, that was a typo, from my scribbles on a piece of paper.
I believe grub or lilo must be primary, but other Linux partitions can be logical including root.
Thank you both for the clarifications, as I was wondering the same thing.
However, /dev/sda1 remains unmounted, and I can't seem to get it to mount. Is that an issue, and how can I get it to mount?
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Re: 18.2 goes to a black screen and won't boot

Post by michael louwe » Sat Dec 09, 2017 12:19 pm

@ Jivs2run, .......
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Are you trying to dual-boot LM 18.2 and LM 17.2.?

If so, which OS was installed first.?

Did you reinstall LM 18.2 over a previous LM 18.2.?

Bear in mind that the last installed OS will take over booting in the MBR of a multi-booted system on an internal HDD. AFAIK, each OS should have its own Root or System partition as a Primary partition and the other partitions can be Primary or Logical/extended partitions. ms-dos/MBR disks are limited to 4 Primary partitions.

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Re: 18.2 goes to a black screen and won't boot

Post by Jlvs2run » Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:57 pm

michael louwe wrote:Are you trying to dual-boot LM 18.2 and LM 17.2.?
If so, which OS was installed first.? Did you reinstall LM 18.2 over a previous LM 18.2.?
Yes, at this point I'm dual booting, at least until I can make sure that 18.2 is working properly. LM 17.2 has all of my data.
LM 17.2 was already on /sda5 and has been the only OS I've been using. From /sda4 onward was only rearranged size wise, including removal of a previous OS. From /sda1 through /sda3 were a previous OS and empty space which were removed and combined into /sda1. LM 18.2 was then installed in the empty /sda1 partition. I would definitely like to clean up the partitions but wasn't sure how to go about it without losing my data.
michael louwe wrote:Bear in mind that the last installed OS will take over booting in the MBR of a multi-booted system on an internal HDD. AFAIK, each OS should have its own Root or System partition as a Primary partition and the other partitions can be Primary or Logical/extended partitions. ms-dos/MBR disks are limited to 4 Primary partitions.
Thanks much for your input. I only use LInux, just Mint at this point, and would be fine with using just primary partitions, at least for the operating systems. Could 17.2 be moved to /sda2 without using data? Then could /home (which is empty) and swap be put into any type of partitions?
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Re: 18.2 goes to a black screen and won't boot

Post by michael louwe » Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:05 pm

@ Jivs2run, .......
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Try the fix for Grub at this link ... https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/grub

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Re: 18.2 goes to a black screen and won't boot

Post by Jlvs2run » Sat Dec 09, 2017 5:05 pm

michael louwe wrote:Try the fix for Grub at this link ... https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/grub
Michael Louwe, thank you.
However everything there appears to be about windows, unless you mean this link about changing the name.
Am I missing the reference?
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Re: 18.2 goes to a black screen and won't boot

Post by michael louwe » Sat Dec 09, 2017 5:15 pm

@ Jivs2run, .......
Jivs2run wrote:However everything there appears to be about windows,.
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Pretend that your LM 17.2 is Windows and apply the Grub repair for your LM 18.2(= /sda1).

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Re: 18.2 goes to a black screen and won't boot

Post by Jlvs2run » Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:42 pm

michael louwe wrote:Pretend that your LM 17.2 is Windows and apply the Grub repair for your LM 18.2(= /sda1).
Michael Louwe,
Thank you again. I replaced windows with LM 17.2 in part 2.2, printed and followed the instructions.
The end of 2.2e was not clear but I did as instructed, sudo reboot and pressed enter but the computer stayed on
with a message about "child" something not working. I didn't write it down, but turned off the computer and proceeded with 2.2f.

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# sudo update-grub
[sudo] password for john:
Generating grub configuration file ...
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.16.0-38-generic
Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.16.0-38-generic
Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.elf
Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.bin
  No volume groups found
Found Linux Mint 18.2 Sonya (18.2) on /dev/sda1
done
#
Upon rebooting, LM 18.2 was found, but everything remained the same. LM 18.2 doesn't boot, LM 17.2 does and still has the / in gparted.
LM 18.2 is not mounted, and LM 17.2 is mounted on /.

Did something mess up at 2.2e or elsewhere?
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Re: 18.2 goes to a black screen and won't boot

Post by michael louwe » Sun Dec 10, 2017 4:06 am

@ Jivs2run, .......
Jivs2run wrote:...
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Did you do the above from the Live LM DVD/USB-stick.?

For more guidance ... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing
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Backup your data on LM 17.2. Try Boot Repair ... viewtopic.php?f=46&t=207529
Or try sudo grub-install /dev/sda and then sudo update-grub from the running LM 17.2.

If unsuccessful, use the Live LM USB/DVD's built-in GParted program to format the whole internal hard-drive and then reinstall LM 17.2 and LM 18.2. Then restore your back-upped data.

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