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Boot time excessive 50 seconds

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I measured it accurately and it is exactly 50 seconds from pressing the start button to a view of my desktop. It should be 10 seconds according to some. Is this a typical start time.

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Re: Boot time excessive 50 seconds

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Please post output of

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inxi -Fxz
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Re: Boot time excessive 50 seconds

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deepakdeshp wrote:Please post output of

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inxi -Fxz

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user@Bott9 ~ $ inxi -Fxz
System:    Host: Bott9 Kernel: 4.10.0-38-generic x86_64 (64 bit gcc: 5.4.0)
           Desktop: Cinnamon 3.6.7 (Gtk 3.18.9-1ubuntu3.3)
           Distro: Linux Mint 18.3 Sylvia
Machine:   System: MICRO-STAR product: MS-B09611
           Mobo: MICRO-STAR model: MS-B0961 v: 1.0
           Bios: American Megatrends v: EB096IMS V1.2 date: 03/30/2015
CPU:       Dual core Intel Celeron 3205U (-MCP-) cache: 2048 KB
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 5986
           clock speeds: max: 1500 MHz 1: 899 MHz 2: 815 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Intel Broadwell-U Integrated Graphics bus-ID: 00:02.0
           Display Server: X.Org 1.18.4 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
           Resolution: 1920x1080@60.00hz
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Broadwell GT1
           GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 17.0.7 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio:     Card-1 Intel Wildcat Point-LP High Definition Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0
           Card-2 Intel Broadwell-U Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:03.0
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.10.0-38-generic
Network:   Card-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller
           driver: r8169 v: 2.3LK-NAPI port: e000 bus-ID: 02:00.0
           IF: enp2s0 state: down mac: <filter>
           Card-2: Intel Wireless 3160 driver: iwlwifi bus-ID: 03:00.0
           IF: wlp3s0 state: up mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 60.0GB (23.6% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: OCZ size: 60.0GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 51G used: 9.4G (20%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/dm-0
           ID-2: /boot size: 472M used: 119M (27%) fs: ext2 dev: /dev/sda1
           ID-3: swap-1 size: 4.19GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/dm-1
RAID:      No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 51.0C mobo: 27.8C
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 191 Uptime: 3:18 Memory: 1876.0/3846.1MB
           Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 5.4.0
           Client: Shell (bash 4.3.481) inxi: 2.2.35 
user@Bott9 ~ $ 

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Re: Boot time excessive 50 seconds

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Hi, Ozo.

Seems you listen to the wrong people too frequently. Or somebody deliberately fooled you. :wink:
Personally I have not come across any machine which performs a cold boot in 10 seconds.
Even my office notebook which boots from an internal SSD does not do so.
And all the machines which boot from a good old internal SATA disk will never boot in 10 seconds to the desktop.
50 seconds between power-on and desktop loaded is a pretty acceptable timespan.

Regards,
Karl
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P.S.: Below the example of the first startup of my Linux Mint 18.1 x64 Cinnamon machine today.

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karl@voyager $ systemd-analyze
Startup finished in 6.637s (kernel) + 1min 20.850s (userspace) = 1min 27.487s
karl@voyager $ systemd-analyze blame
         42.135s apt-daily.service
         14.014s NetworkManager-wait-online.service
         10.124s dev-sda7.device
          9.640s accounts-daemon.service
          9.150s networking.service
          8.863s loadcpufreq.service
          7.923s grub-common.service
          7.396s virtualbox-guest-utils.service
          6.520s ModemManager.service
          6.509s ondemand.service
          5.941s speech-dispatcher.service
          5.188s thermald.service
          5.086s console-kit-log-system-start.service
          5.065s NetworkManager.service
          4.896s lvm2-monitor.service
          4.863s lm-sensors.service
          4.841s systemd-logind.service
          4.739s systemd-user-sessions.service
          4.737s rsyslog.service
          4.696s avahi-daemon.service
          3.507s ufw.service
          3.406s postfix.service
          3.297s systemd-udevd.service
          2.638s irqbalance.service
          2.549s console-setup.service
          2.548s iio-sensor-proxy.service
          1.685s systemd-tmpfiles-setup-dev.service
          1.453s keyboard-setup.service
          1.370s colord.service
          1.230s binfmt-support.service
          1.207s apt-daily-upgrade.service
          1.197s systemd-modules-load.service
           971ms systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service
           943ms polkitd.service
           836ms systemd-journald.service
           668ms dev-hugepages.mount
           507ms proc-sys-fs-binfmt_misc.mount
           461ms systemd-sysctl.service
           413ms systemd-journal-flush.service
           409ms dev-mqueue.mount
           409ms sys-kernel-debug.mount
           402ms udisks2.service
           377ms upower.service
           368ms systemd-random-seed.service
           367ms systemd-udev-trigger.service
           270ms dev-disk-by\x2duuid-20f6167d\x2d0136\x2d4d21\x2da1d9\x2dfb36954a0815.swap
           252ms systemd-update-utmp.service
           194ms kmod-static-nodes.service
           182ms cpufrequtils.service
           164ms dns-clean.service
           164ms resolvconf.service
           154ms systemd-remount-fs.service
            61ms console-kit-daemon.service
            61ms user@1000.service
            51ms openvpn.service
            35ms pppd-dns.service
            26ms rc-local.service
            26ms plymouth-quit.service
            25ms plymouth-quit-wait.service
            24ms hddtemp.service
            21ms setvtrgb.service
            20ms systemd-tmpfiles-clean.service
            18ms alsa-restore.service
            16ms plymouth-start.service
            12ms plymouth-read-write.service
             8ms ureadahead-stop.service
             6ms systemd-update-utmp-runlevel.service
             6ms rtkit-daemon.service
             5ms sys-fs-fuse-connections.mount

karl@voyager ~ $ inxi -Fxz
System:    Host: voyager Kernel: 4.4.0-109-generic x86_64 bits: 64 gcc: 5.4.0
           Desktop: Cinnamon 3.2.7 (Gtk 3.18.9-1ubuntu3.3) Distro: Linux Mint 18.1 Serena
Machine:   Device: desktop System: MEDIONPC product: MS-7358 serial: N/A
           Mobo: MICRO-STAR model: MS-7358 v: Fab D serial: N/A BIOS: Phoenix v: 6.00 PG date: 07/24/2007
CPU:       Quad core Intel Core2 Quad (-MCP-) arch: Conroe rev.7 cache: 4096 KB
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 19139
           clock speeds: max: 2400 MHz 1: 1600 MHz 2: 1600 MHz 3: 2400 MHz 4: 1600 MHz
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA G86 [GeForce 8500 GT] bus-ID: 01:00.0
           Display Server: X.Org 1.18.4 drivers: nouveau (unloaded: modesetting,fbdev,vesa)
           Resolution: 1280x1024@60.02hz
           OpenGL: renderer: NV86 version: 3.3 Mesa 17.2.4 Direct Render: Yes
Audio:     Card Intel 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.4.0-109-generic
Network:   Card: Realtek RTL8169 PCI Gigabit Ethernet Controller
           driver: r8169 v: 2.3LK-NAPI port: ac00 bus-ID: 04:00.0
           IF: enp4s0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 500.1GB (3.9% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: ST3500830AS size: 500.1GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 46G used: 11G (26%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda7
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 8.22GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda8
RAID:      No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 44.0C mobo: N/A gpu: 48.0
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 193 Uptime: 39 min Memory: 892.7/3258.5MB Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 5.4.0
           Client: Shell (bash 4.3.481) inxi: 2.3.45
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Re: Boot time excessive 50 seconds

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systemd-analyze
Startup finished in 2.571s (kernel) + 7.466s (userspace) = 10.037s

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 systemd-analyze blame
          5.636s NetworkManager-wait-online.service
           954ms dev-sda1.device
           420ms apparmor.service
           368ms plymouth-read-write.service
           321ms ufw.service
           316ms accounts-daemon.service
           311ms ModemManager.service
           226ms networking.service
           219ms sav-protect.service
           199ms systemd-logind.service
           142ms lightdm.service
           141ms snapd.service
           141ms apport.service
           139ms NetworkManager.service
           131ms upower.service
           130ms irqbalance.service
           130ms grub-common.service
           130ms console-setup.service
           123ms avahi-daemon.service
           118ms ondemand.service
           113ms speech-dispatcher.service
           102ms polkitd.service
            93ms systemd-rfkill.service
            92ms keyboard-setup.service
            90ms gpu-manager.service
            82ms systemd-journald.service
            82ms systemd-udev-trigger.service
            78ms udisks2.service
My laptop is a 7 year old Toshiba L650

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Re: Boot time excessive 50 seconds

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Ahum... Petty much standard 18.3, I`m between 10 and 50 sec. and I`m fooling no one :wink:

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~ # systemd-analyze
Startup finished in 5.882s (kernel) + 8.204s (userspace) = 14.087s
~ # systemd-analyze blame
          5.256s NetworkManager-wait-online.service
          2.064s dev-sda5.device
          1.621s upower.service
          1.128s systemd-udev-trigger.service
           802ms lvm2-monitor.service
           735ms ModemManager.service
           727ms accounts-daemon.service
           680ms systemd-logind.service
           671ms loadcpufreq.service
           651ms NetworkManager.service
           644ms irqbalance.service
           641ms grub-common.service
           638ms iio-sensor-proxy.service
           629ms speech-dispatcher.service
           628ms apport.service
           608ms console-kit-log-system-start.service
           607ms ondemand.service
           585ms lm-sensors.service
           579ms thermald.service
           578ms alsa-restore.service
           578ms pppd-dns.service
           550ms rsyslog.service
           547ms gpu-manager.service
           547ms systemd-user-sessions.service
           184ms ufw.service
           165ms lightdm.service
           106ms udisks2.service
            96ms console-setup.service
            88ms apparmor.service
            85ms keyboard-setup.service
            78ms colord.service
            73ms systemd-journald.service
            72ms systemd-rfkill.service
            68ms openvpn-client@<xxx>.service
            62ms systemd-udevd.service
            57ms networking.service
            44ms cpufrequtils.service
            43ms polkitd.service
            41ms systemd-modules-load.service
            39ms systemd-tmpfiles-setup-dev.service
            31ms user@1000.service
            27ms ntp.service
            24ms avahi-daemon.service
            18ms binfmt-support.service
            17ms hddtemp.service
            16ms systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service
            16ms plymouth-start.service
            13ms sys-kernel-debug.mount
            13ms systemd-tmpfiles-clean.service
            12ms systemd-update-utmp.service
            12ms plymouth-read-write.service
            11ms systemd-remount-fs.service
            11ms systemd-journal-flush.service
            11ms proc-sys-fs-binfmt_misc.mount
             9ms kmod-static-nodes.service
             9ms dns-clean.service
             9ms systemd-sysctl.service
             9ms openvpn.service
             8ms ureadahead-stop.service
             8ms rtkit-daemon.service
             7ms wpa_supplicant.service
             7ms dev-hugepages.mount
             6ms dev-disk-by\x2duuid-cecb3136\x2d1222\x2d4e39\x2d8327\x2dc770465ae07f.swap
             6ms rc-local.service
             6ms resolvconf.service
             6ms systemd-update-utmp-runlevel.service
             5ms systemd-random-seed.service
             4ms dev-mqueue.mount
             3ms sys-fs-fuse-connections.mount
             2ms systemd-backlight@backlight:intel_backlight.service
             2ms setvtrgb.service
             2ms plymouth-quit-wait.service
~ # inxi -Fxz
System:    Host: Kernel: 4.10.0-42-generic x86_64 (64 bit gcc: 5.4.0)
           Desktop: Cinnamon 3.6.7 (Gtk 3.18.9-1ubuntu3.3) Distro: Linux Mint 18.3 Sylvia
Machine:   Mobo: Packard Bell model: EasyNote TK85 v: V1.30 Bios: Packard Bell v: V1.30 date: 08/13/2012
CPU:       Dual core Intel Core i5 M 450 (-HT-MCP-) cache: 3072 KB
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 9575
           clock speeds: max: 2400 MHz 1: 1599 MHz 2: 1333 MHz 3: 1733 MHz 4: 1333 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Intel Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller bus-ID: 00:02.0
           Display Server: X.org 1.18.4 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
           tty size: 136x42 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Audio:     Card Intel 5 Series/3400 Series High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.10.0-42-generic
Network:   Card-1: Broadcom NetLink BCM57780 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe driver: tg3 v: 3.137 bus-ID: 01:00.0
           IF: enp1s0 state: down mac: <filter>
           Card-2: Qualcomm Atheros AR9287 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) driver: ath9k bus-ID: 02:00.0
           IF: wlp2s0 state: up mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 128.0GB (8.0% used) ID-1: /dev/sda model: ADATA_SP920SS size: 128.0GB temp: 35C
Partition: ID-1: / size: 27G used: 6.9G (28%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda5
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 2.94GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda6
RAID:      No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 47.0C mobo: N/A
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 195 Uptime: 2:11 Memory: 1310.2/2678.3MB Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 5.4.0
           Client: Shell (bash 4.3.481) inxi: 2.2.35
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Re: Boot time excessive 50 seconds

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Witam
Też myślałem na początku że coś z systemem jest nie tak, ale po przeczytaniu wpisów w tym temacie , potwierdzam , z zimnego startu czas reakcji to 50-55 sekund.
dziękuje za informacje.

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 systemd-analyze 

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 Startup finished in 4min 45.587s (kernel) + 11.040s (userspace) = 4min 56.628s
 

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 systemd-analyze blame
 

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   5.296s NetworkManager-wait-online.service
          2.359s apt-daily-upgrade.service
          2.199s dev-mapper-mint\x2d\x2dvg\x2droot.device
          1.237s udisks2.service
          1.168s apt-daily.service
           722ms systemd-journald.service
           655ms loadcpufreq.service
           537ms ModemManager.service
           531ms lvm2-monitor.service
           519ms accounts-daemon.service
           500ms systemd-logind.service
           487ms lightdm.service
           483ms console-setup.service
           430ms apparmor.service
           425ms irqbalance.service
           411ms ondemand.service
           379ms grub-common.service
           374ms NetworkManager.service
           357ms upower.service
           319ms systemd-udev-trigger.service
           300ms networking.service
           299ms speech-dispatcher.service
           298ms virtualbox-guest-utils.service
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Re: Boot time excessive 50 seconds

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Ozo wrote:I measured it accurately and it is exactly 50 seconds from pressing the start button to a view of my desktop. It should be 10 seconds according to some. Is this a typical start time.
Who said it? For me it depends on the hardware, and seeing your inxi output
Ozo wrote:CPU: Dual core Intel Celeron 3205U (-MCP-) cache: 2048 KB
I think you have a poor performance processor, is defined an "is an entry-level processor"
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Cel ... 919.0.html

I think your boot time is normal, like mine (42 seconds)

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$ systemd-analyze
Startup finished in 5.832s (kernel) + 36.592s (userspace) = 42.425s
with my processor
CPU: Dual core Intel Core i3 M 330 (-HT-MCP-) cache: 3072 KB

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Re: Boot time excessive 50 seconds

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Processor:
Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU N2840 @ 2.16GHz : 2165,00MHz

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systemd-analyze
Startup finished in 4.965s (kernel) + 9.132s (userspace) = 14.097s
I suppose that's one of the ironies of life, doing the wrong thing at the right moment -C.C.

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Re: Boot time excessive 50 seconds

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I was coincidentally just reading this article on getting modern Linux to run on an ancient 486 box, where it took 11 minutes to boot. :)

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Re: Boot time excessive 50 seconds

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From pressing start button to desktop 56 s with an Intel E7500, benchmark
near your Celeron 3205U Ozo. LM 18.3

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systemd-analyze
Startup finished in 16.650s (kernel) + 8.451s (userspace) = 25.102s

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Re: Boot time excessive 50 seconds

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minitux wrote:
Ozo wrote: I think you have a poor performance processor, is defined an "is an entry-level processor"
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Cel ... 919.0.html
CPU: Dual core Intel Core i3 M 330 (-HT-MCP-) cache: 3072 KB
Right, I have a 4" X 4" X 2" desktop computer with the lowest end cpu option but it is state of the art 2018 (correct me if there has been an update) with the very latest graphics embedded. I thought that might be the bottleneck but was hesitant to plop down another $150 for the upgrade to i3 just for a few seconds increase in load speed.

This tiny cpu was loading Windows 10 in 10 seconds flat (start to desktop) so I thought maybe there was a problem here but now I believe things are just fine. And no, it is not enough to make me think even for a moment that I might go back to the os from hell. :mrgreen:

The time here is about 20 seconds but the desktop background is not visible for another 30 seconds.

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