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Re: Boot hang after Timeshift restore

Post by Cosmo. » Sat Feb 03, 2018 6:19 pm

michael louwe wrote:Does the above quote for "Cross-Distribution Restore" apply to a successful but problematic inplace upgrade of LM 18.x, eg from 18.2 to 18.3.?
I have no idea, what you understand as "successful but problematic". Besides that the blog by Clem and especially the quote which I excerpted in my ost above, gives the clear answer: You can go back from an upgraded 18.x to the previous system.

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Re: Boot hang after Timeshift restore

Post by Cosmo. » Sat Feb 03, 2018 6:25 pm

@thebear:
Those remaining problems might be caused by the user account. Create a fresh new user account for testing; make sure, that the test account has admin type, so that it belongs to the group sudo.

Now log out of your main account and into the test account and check the problems there.

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Re: Boot hang after Timeshift restore

Post by thebear » Sat Feb 03, 2018 10:18 pm

Hi Cosmo,
Created a new account as suggested but same problems persisted, for eg, can't open Update Manager (when I run gksudo update-manager I get "not enough space on device" and "Unable to copy the user's Xauthorisation file"), can't open Supertux, and can only shut down via terminal.

I'm wondering if a fresh install might be the way to go.

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Re: Boot hang after Timeshift restore

Post by michael louwe » Sun Feb 04, 2018 1:39 am

@ Cosmo, .......
Cosmo wrote:...
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An inplace upgrade from LM 18.2 to LM 18.3 may result in ...
[1.] complete success.
[2.] failure to complete, eg the upgrade process being stuck halfway.
[3.] successful completion but followed by a problematic system operation of LM 18.3, eg due to file corruption during the upgrade process.

Maybe, the normal Timeshift restore, mentioned by Clem below, can only be applied to case [2.] .
If anything goes wrong, you can easily restore your operating system to its previous state.
= if anything goes wrong "with the upgrade process".(.?)

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Re: Boot hang after Timeshift restore

Post by Cosmo. » Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:51 am

@thebear:
Open the system monitor -> last page = file systems. This gives you a comprehensive overview about the used space. Is there anywhere more than 90 % used?

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Re: Boot hang after Timeshift restore

Post by thebear » Mon Feb 05, 2018 12:36 pm

I don't have System Monitor and now I can't open Software Manager. Comes up with this error:

Failed to run mintinstall as user root.
Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file.

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Re: Boot hang after Timeshift restore

Post by Sir Charles » Mon Feb 05, 2018 12:47 pm

Do you get the same error message if you try to open Synaptic?
You can run:
gksudo synaptic

Edit: Could you post the terminal output after running ls -l .Xauthority ?
I suppose that's one of the ironies of life, doing the wrong thing at the right moment -C.C.

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Re: Boot hang after Timeshift restore

Post by thebear » Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:02 pm

No, I can open Synaptic.

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Re: Boot hang after Timeshift restore

Post by Sir Charles » Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:07 pm

Alright, can you post the terminal output after runningls -l .Xauthority?
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Re: Boot hang after Timeshift restore

Post by thebear » Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:10 pm

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-rw------- 1 vinny vinny 50 Feb  6 02:53 .Xauthority

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Re: Boot hang after Timeshift restore

Post by Sir Charles » Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:23 pm

It looks alright. Now try to open the Software Manager once again. I hope it will open now. If it doesn't wait for someone with a bigger gun to come along :wink:
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Re: Boot hang after Timeshift restore

Post by chrisuk » Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:26 pm

I get the feeling that some don't understand what Timeshift is... it's just a frontend for rsync with grub install/update-grub and scheduling added. It's as reliable as rsync - which is pretty reliable. I've used it for years - cloned many systems (restore snapshot to different hardware) - I only install an OS once, then restore to my other boxes. I do a full system snapshot (including Home for root and me)... it's never let me down.

I'd suggest a good read of Timeshift's manual, and some might find this interesting, as it's pretty much what happens "under the hood" of programs like Timeshift and Backintime.
Chris

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Re: Boot hang after Timeshift restore

Post by thebear » Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:27 pm

Looks like I'll be waiting for that bigger gun ..... thanks anyway.

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Re: Boot hang after Timeshift restore

Post by Sir Charles » Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:38 pm

Well, as a last resort you could try to remove "mintinstall" completely and re-install it via Synaptic. That's what I would have done. The choice is yours :)
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Re: Boot hang after Timeshift restore

Post by thebear » Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:02 pm

Thanks Marziano, how do I go about doing that?

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Re: Boot hang after Timeshift restore

Post by Sir Charles » Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:23 pm

You could open Synaptic by typinggksudo synaptic in a terminal. Once opened, type mintinstall in the search-box . Click on mintinstall and choose "Mark for Complete Removal". And then click "Apply" from the toolbar. This will remove the application including it's configuration files. Once done, mark it again, click on the item and choose "Mark for Installation" and then "Apply" from the toolbar.
Synaptic.png
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(of course all this can be done via terminal as well)
Hope this helps!
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Re: Boot hang after Timeshift restore

Post by thebear » Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:23 pm

Oh dear! I did the uninstall but now it won't let me reinstall. It won't even let me open synaptic, even from terminal. Guess what I get?

Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file. !!!

I'm leaning towards a fresh install. May I assume it will (dis)solve these issues?

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Re: Boot hang after Timeshift restore

Post by JerryF » Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:32 pm

thebear wrote:I'm sorry, but what is the "life system"?
Cosmo means "live system".

English is not his native language.
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Re: Boot hang after Timeshift restore

Post by Sir Charles » Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:24 pm

thebear wrote:Oh dear! I did the uninstall but now it won't let me reinstall. It won't even let me open synaptic, even from terminal. Guess what I get?

Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file. !!!

I'm leaning towards a fresh install. May I assume it will (dis)solve these issues?
thebear, reboot your system and login back. This will recreate your .Xauthority file. Then run sudo apt-get install mintinstall in a terminal.
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Re: Boot hang after Timeshift restore

Post by thebear » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:02 pm

Hi Marziano, gave it a go, this is what I got:

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Reading package lists... Error!
E: Write error - write (28: No space left on device)
E: IO Error saving source cache
E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.

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