Newbie here. Can't log into Linux after careless use of "chown" commnand
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Newbie here. Can't log into Linux after careless use of "chown" commnand
Hi, I am very new to Linux. I'm a lifelong Windows user, but a few weeks ago I decided a to give Linux a try. I installed Linux Mint 18.3 in a dual-boot setup next to my Windows 10 system. The installation went flawlessly, and since then I am absolutely loving the Linux experience. I almost never go to Windows anymore. Then tonight I did something really stupid.
I was creating a folder in root that I was going to use as a mount point for an external drive. I went to check the newly-created folder permissions with chown -R user:user /filename but I forget the filename. I heard a lot of disk activity. Then, instead of staying in Linux and making sure that I hadn't messed anything up, I made an even worse mistake: I rebooted. Yup!
Now I can't get back into Linux. When I reboot the machine, I get into Linux, I see the Linux Mint logo but the password screen never comes. Instead, I have a blinking cursor at the top-left corner of the screen. I tried to boot into recovery but I don't know enough to navigate through the recovery boot menu. Please, some help would be truly appreciated. Thank you.
I was creating a folder in root that I was going to use as a mount point for an external drive. I went to check the newly-created folder permissions with chown -R user:user /filename but I forget the filename. I heard a lot of disk activity. Then, instead of staying in Linux and making sure that I hadn't messed anything up, I made an even worse mistake: I rebooted. Yup!
Now I can't get back into Linux. When I reboot the machine, I get into Linux, I see the Linux Mint logo but the password screen never comes. Instead, I have a blinking cursor at the top-left corner of the screen. I tried to boot into recovery but I don't know enough to navigate through the recovery boot menu. Please, some help would be truly appreciated. Thank you.
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Re: Newbie here. Can't log into Linux after careless use of "chown" commnand
Hello jomama
Welcome to Linux Mint and the Linux Mint forum
If you did what I think you did, you made the ultimate neophyte mistake.
In the recovery mode console enter
If your user name shows instead of root as the owner and group then a re-installation would be the easiest and quickest fix.
Also you should setup a chown alias using --preserve-root so that would not happen again.
Welcome to Linux Mint and the Linux Mint forum
If you did what I think you did, you made the ultimate neophyte mistake.
In the recovery mode console enter
ls -lh /
If your user name shows instead of root as the owner and group then a re-installation would be the easiest and quickest fix.
Also you should setup a chown alias using --preserve-root so that would not happen again.
Re: Newbie here. Can't log into Linux after careless use of "chown" commnand
Hi WharfRat:
Thank you for the warm welcome. Wish it were under better circumstances.
I went into the recovery console, executed the ls command. There were a number of entries and I didn't know which particular entry to look at for the info that you'd be interested in so I took a picture of the screen. Unfortunately, even a greatly reduced size that is still legible is "too large" for the forum. How to proceed?
Thank you for the warm welcome. Wish it were under better circumstances.
I went into the recovery console, executed the ls command. There were a number of entries and I didn't know which particular entry to look at for the info that you'd be interested in so I took a picture of the screen. Unfortunately, even a greatly reduced size that is still legible is "too large" for the forum. How to proceed?
Re: Newbie here. Can't log into Linux after careless use of "chown" commnand
Put it on the net somewhere (there's tons of free image hosters) and post the direct link to the image here, enclosed in
rimg
tags.If your issue is solved, kindly indicate that by editing the first post in the topic, and adding [SOLVED] to the title. Thanks!
Re: Newbie here. Can't log into Linux after careless use of "chown" commnand
That was the link to the page with the image, not to the image, but I've fixed that for you. Good luck!
If your issue is solved, kindly indicate that by editing the first post in the topic, and adding [SOLVED] to the title. Thanks!
Re: Newbie here. Can't log into Linux after careless use of "chown" commnand
Thank you, Moem. But "Good luck!"? Does that mean what I think it means?
Re: Newbie here. Can't log into Linux after careless use of "chown" commnand
I don't know what you think it means, it means I'm hoping you'll have a good solution, is all.
But how bad can it be? I mean, a backup-and-reinstall is not a disaster... especially if you can copy your home directory. And I don't see any reason why you couldn't.
Indicentally, this is a reason why some of us prefer to have a separate /home partition. It's so easy to reinstall the OS and leave that partition intact (after making a backup just to be sure). It's like swapping out the table cloth while leaving all the plates and cutlery in place.
Don't worry, WharfRat is great at stuff like this, you're in good hands.
But how bad can it be? I mean, a backup-and-reinstall is not a disaster... especially if you can copy your home directory. And I don't see any reason why you couldn't.
Indicentally, this is a reason why some of us prefer to have a separate /home partition. It's so easy to reinstall the OS and leave that partition intact (after making a backup just to be sure). It's like swapping out the table cloth while leaving all the plates and cutlery in place.
Don't worry, WharfRat is great at stuff like this, you're in good hands.
If your issue is solved, kindly indicate that by editing the first post in the topic, and adding [SOLVED] to the title. Thanks!
Re: Newbie here. Can't log into Linux after careless use of "chown" commnand
Thanks for the encouragement and you're right--it really won't be a big deal if I have to reinstall the OS. It's only been a few weeks that I've been on Linux and that wasn't enough time for me to create a wasteland of content, just a few files I'd like to preserve. Besides, I do believe I created a separate partition for home when I installed the OS. So yes, not bad at all. Anyway, it's 2 AM here and I need my beauty sleep, so good night. Catch you guys on the flip side.
Re: Newbie here. Can't log into Linux after careless use of "chown" commnand
jomama,
Yep, you did exactly what I thought you did and changed every files owner:group to you
Consider this a learning experience and just reinstall - it's the quickest solution and much less painful than reinstalling Windows.
When setting up a mount point for your external media use the /media folder for it, e.g.,
If you check
Good luck
Yep, you did exactly what I thought you did and changed every files owner:group to you
Consider this a learning experience and just reinstall - it's the quickest solution and much less painful than reinstalling Windows.
When setting up a mount point for your external media use the /media folder for it, e.g.,
sudo mkdir /media/external
If you check
man hier
There's no need to chown anything after creating a mount point as the permissions are maintained in the filesystem/media This directory contains mount points for removable media such as CD and DVD disks or USB sticks.
Good luck
Re: Newbie here. Can't log into Linux after careless use of "chown" commnand
Ouch! That's a hard lesson to learn but hopefully it'll serve me well in the future.
I was creating a mount point outside of /media specifically because I needed Plex to be able to access it. You're right though, I didn't need to execute chown after creating the folder.
I'm going to go ahead and reinstall the OS, as you suggested. I was contemplating doing that at some point in the near future anyway, and give Mint more space on the SSD than I had originally assigned.
But I have a few of preparatory questions:
1) Can I keep the /home partition intact during the reinstall and thus preserve the documents I created, or perhaps move them somewhere? ( I have docs in the Documents and Downloads folders, but also on the Desktop that I'd like to preserve.)
2) I have an opportunity to enlarge the partitions now. What sizes for /root /swap and /home would you recommend for long-term use?
3) Anything else I should know before delving into this?
Thank you for your help, WharfRat.
I was creating a mount point outside of /media specifically because I needed Plex to be able to access it. You're right though, I didn't need to execute chown after creating the folder.
I'm going to go ahead and reinstall the OS, as you suggested. I was contemplating doing that at some point in the near future anyway, and give Mint more space on the SSD than I had originally assigned.
But I have a few of preparatory questions:
1) Can I keep the /home partition intact during the reinstall and thus preserve the documents I created, or perhaps move them somewhere? ( I have docs in the Documents and Downloads folders, but also on the Desktop that I'd like to preserve.)
2) I have an opportunity to enlarge the partitions now. What sizes for /root /swap and /home would you recommend for long-term use?
3) Anything else I should know before delving into this?
Thank you for your help, WharfRat.
Re: Newbie here. Can't log into Linux after careless use of "chown" commnand
Are you sure about the home partition
The standard installation does not provision a separate home partition.
Even if you have one it's still recommended that you copy anything you couldn't do without to an external media as a safety precaution.
The easiest way to recover your files is to boot the live installation media, mount your linux or home partition and copy them to your external media.
If you paste back the results of
As far as size goes it depends on the number of additional apps you intend to install. Usually 24GIG always worked for me for the root partition.
Swap is still debated since memory is more abundant than in the past, but 1X physical memory works for me.
But be advised that I don't suspend or hibernate and I believe that 2X memory is required for that.
The standard installation does not provision a separate home partition.
Even if you have one it's still recommended that you copy anything you couldn't do without to an external media as a safety precaution.
The easiest way to recover your files is to boot the live installation media, mount your linux or home partition and copy them to your external media.
If you paste back the results of
sudo blkid
from the live session here we can have a look at your disk's layout.As far as size goes it depends on the number of additional apps you intend to install. Usually 24GIG always worked for me for the root partition.
Swap is still debated since memory is more abundant than in the past, but 1X physical memory works for me.
But be advised that I don't suspend or hibernate and I believe that 2X memory is required for that.
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Re: Newbie here. Can't log into Linux after careless use of "chown" commnand
I would boot LIVE DVD and copy that /home folder only to a FAT32 partition on flashdrive, then reinstall the system the way I wanted it. The reason I say to a FAT32 partition is because FAT strips off all file ownership and later you can copy them direct to your new home folder and they will automatically shift ownership to your new home. It also avoids using CHOWN again.
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Re: Newbie here. Can't log into Linux after careless use of "chown" commnand
Am I sure that that I created a separate partition for /home?
I'm pretty sure. When I installed Linux Mint, I took the "Something else" option for the Installation Type and created the three partitions manually, similar to the way guide lays out a dual-boot installation:
https://www.tecmint.com/install-linux-m ... uefi-mode/.
So I think I could preserve the existing root partition. But I rather prefer your suggestion of moving the files I want to keep somewhere and of starting off with a completely fresh install.
Now, the question is: Do you have a guide, a link perhaps, where I can find the various steps I need to follow? Or I could do some googling, write down the few steps/commands I think I'll need and share them with you here before proceeding?
I'm pretty sure. When I installed Linux Mint, I took the "Something else" option for the Installation Type and created the three partitions manually, similar to the way guide lays out a dual-boot installation:
https://www.tecmint.com/install-linux-m ... uefi-mode/.
So I think I could preserve the existing root partition. But I rather prefer your suggestion of moving the files I want to keep somewhere and of starting off with a completely fresh install.
Now, the question is: Do you have a guide, a link perhaps, where I can find the various steps I need to follow? Or I could do some googling, write down the few steps/commands I think I'll need and share them with you here before proceeding?
Re: Newbie here. Can't log into Linux after careless use of "chown" commnand
If you followed that link's instructions then you do have a home partition.jomama wrote: ⤴Fri May 25, 2018 12:59 pm Am I sure that that I created a separate partition for /home?
I'm pretty sure. When I installed Linux Mint, I took the "Something else" option for the Installation Type and created the three partitions manually, similar to the way guide lays out a dual-boot installation:
https://www.tecmint.com/install-linux-m ... uefi-mode/.
So I think I could preserve the existing root partition. But I rather prefer your suggestion of moving the files I want to keep somewhere and of starting off with a completely fresh install.
Now, the question is: Do you have a guide, a link perhaps, where I can find the various steps I need to follow? Or I could do some googling, write down the few steps/commands I think I'll need and share them with you here before proceeding?
You can resize/move partitions using the live session's gparted application.
Do you need assistance with copying your files or reinstalling I'm not quite clear on that
Re: Newbie here. Can't log into Linux after careless use of "chown" commnand
The former. Having done it once, I am pretty comfortable with the installation steps. I'm just not sure how you move files/folders from an existing partition to a some other location for safekeeping. I imagine it'll be with shell commands. Sorry, I know my newbie is showing.
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Re: Newbie here. Can't log into Linux after careless use of "chown" commnand
what's wrong with using the file manager included in the distro?
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Re: Newbie here. Can't log into Linux after careless use of "chown" commnand
Sorry I didn't see your previous reply till just now, Spearmint2, but I really appreciate it. I'll use a flash drive. I think the ones I have are all FAT32.Spearmint2 wrote: ⤴Fri May 25, 2018 2:44 pm what's wrong with using the file manager included in the distro?
I didn't realize I had access to a file manager in the distro. LOL. That'll work for me. I'm gonna give it a go now and report back.
Thank you!
Re: Newbie here. Can't log into Linux after careless use of "chown" commnand
Gentlemen, I just wanted to report back and tell you that I 'm back up and running. Now the process of customizing, updating, installing applications begin, but that's the fun part. Thank you for your patience and help. Things are never so bleak as when you have good people holding you up. I'll be more careful going forward.