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Unable to Install on Lenovo ideapad Miix 310

Post by MattC3 » Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:57 am

Hi,

I have been trying to install MINT on my Lenovo Ideapad Miix 310-10icr, and I have not got very far. I can boot from the USB stick and when I try to install, it seems to do that OK. But when I reboot from the drive it starts but then just sits on a black screen.

I have tried all the various things that others have stated: turned off secure boot; tried compatibility mode (didn't even run up from the stick); disable 'third-party software'; others that I've forgotten.

I'm trying to install 18.3 as a lone install. It installs from the stick, then on reboot, the LM logo appears for a few seconds then disappears leaving a black screen and nothing else. However, very occasionally, it does boot, usually after the install, but then nothing. It never asks me for WiFi and I can't find one in the settings, and the system does not have an Ethernet port.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Unable to Install on Lenovo ideapad Miix 310

Post by michael louwe » Sat Jul 07, 2018 3:56 am

MattC3 wrote:.
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Please refer to ... viewtopic.php?t=262600 (see also the linuxium website)
https://medium.com/@tomac/installing-ub ... 27747a376b

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Re: Unable to Install on Lenovo ideapad Miix 310

Post by MattC3 » Sun Jul 08, 2018 3:25 pm

Thanks, but unless I'm missing something, I can't see that these two links are connected to my problem.

An additional problem now: I can't seem to get the laptop to access the USB drive at all now. Secure Boot is still off.

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Re: Unable to Install on Lenovo ideapad Miix 310

Post by michael louwe » Sun Jul 08, 2018 4:22 pm

MattC3 wrote:.
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Doesn't your netbook use the Intel Atom Cherry Trail X5 Z8350 processor.?

https://www.cnet.com/products/lenovo-mi ... ssd/specs/
Though it won’t boot, since we made 64bit flashdrive, but most Intel Atom Bay Trail is shipped only with 32bit UEFI bootloader and Linux i386 32bit doesn’t support EFI booting.

So we need a workaround. Copy custom bootia32.efi to X:\EFI\BOOT to fix 32bit EFI Shell incompatibility issue.

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Re: Unable to Install on Lenovo ideapad Miix 310

Post by bbaker6212 » Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:18 pm

The solution is Linuxium's ISO respin script which works for Ubuntu, Mint, and other Debian based distro's. The links given above alluded to that.
Linux Mint Mate 19.1 k/4.15, Windows 10, Manjaro 18.03 Xfce k/4.19.24-1 MX-Linux 18.1 Lenovo Ideapad G50-45 8GB
Lenovo Ideapad 330S-15IKB, Core i5-8250U, 8GB RAM, Samsung EVO 850 SATA SSD, 14GB Optane M.2 PCIe NVMe, QCA9377 WiFi

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Re: Unable to Install on Lenovo ideapad Miix 310

Post by MattC3 » Fri Jul 20, 2018 10:54 am

Hi,

Sorry for the delay, I've been away.

bbaker6212: Can you elucidate this. As I am relatively new to Linux, this means very little to me.

Thanks

Edit: Incidentally, the 64bit version has loaded up and has worked to some extent - even if it doesn't now. If I'm correct (please correct me if I'm wrong), a 64bit version wouldn't work on a 32bit processor.

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Re: Unable to Install on Lenovo ideapad Miix 310

Post by michael louwe » Fri Jul 20, 2018 5:11 pm

@ MattC3, .......
MattC3 wrote:.
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Modern UEFI computers require 64bit OS and 64bit EFI-bootloaders, besides GPT disks and the Secure Boot feature. So, the Live LM USB/DVD comes with only a 64bit Grub.efi bootloader(eg grubx64.efi and shimx64.efi), ie none for 32bit-EFI.
....... OTOH, 32bit bootloaders are available in the Live LM USB/DVD for Legacy BIOS install mode.

M$ and her OEMs have configured some cheap and under-powered Intel Atom UEFI netbooks to use 32bit EFI-bootloaders(and 32bit Win 8.x.?) because 64bit OS and 64bit EFI-bootloaders would over-extend the hardware resources of the netbooks.

Hence, the fix is either to pre-install the 32bit Grub.efi/bootia32 bootloader or respin it into the LM ISO file(= linuxium website) before doing the install of LM on such netbooks.

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Re: Unable to Install on Lenovo ideapad Miix 310

Post by MattC3 » Sat Jul 21, 2018 6:27 am

So the bottom lime at my end is: in simple terms, what can I do to get Mint installed on the laptop?

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Re: Unable to Install on Lenovo ideapad Miix 310

Post by michael louwe » Sat Jul 21, 2018 8:22 am

@ MattC3, .......
MattC3 wrote:.
When Intel launched “Bay Trail” Atom tablets, Microsoft supported them with a new feature called InstaGo. At launch, it was a bit buggy. Microsoft couldn’t support it in 64-bit mode. So, initially, tablets with Bay Trail processors shipped with 32-bit firmware even though you have a 64-bit tablet running 64-bit Windows OS. Why is this bad? First, you can’t run most Linux operating systems. Even in 32-bit mode, thanks to most Linux platforms not supporting UEFI32-only devices. Luckily this can be easily fixed using a 32-bit UEFI bootloader.Apart from this you will need a USB OTG HUB to be able to connect more than one device at a time (keyboard, boot device, optionally a mouse) during installation time when the touch screen does not work.
quoted from ... https://medium.com/@tomac/installing-ub ... 27747a376b
M$'s InstantGo or Connected Standby feature does not allow the UEFI netbook to be manually set to Legacy BIOS. IIRC, the preinstalled Win 8.x 64bit also used a proprietary disk compression feature called WIM, in order to fit the OS into cheap but limited 16GB or 32GB eMMC Flash storage = cannot do a clean re-install with the Win 8.x ISO file from M$'s website. Seems, M$ and the OEMs tried to lock-in these cheap netbooks to Windows.
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Follow and be guided by this Tutorial ... http://www.jfwhome.com/2016/01/04/lates ... us-t100ta/ (insert the bootia32.efi bootloader file into the Live LM USB) or ...
http://linuxiumcomau.blogspot.com/2017/ ... namon.html (respin or remaster the downloaded LM ISO file)

The fixes are quite complicated and may not be worth doing = users being conned by M$ and the OEMs into buying a cheap and under-powered Windows netbook.

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Re: Unable to Install on Lenovo ideapad Miix 310

Post by MattC3 » Sun Sep 02, 2018 12:22 pm

Hi,

After leaving the laptop dormant for several weeks, I tried installing LM again and it seemed to work, until it finally asked me for the user name and password. It didn't recognise me. The username is definitely right, and I have tried the 'caps lock' routine. This happened on the previous attempts that actually got somewhere. When it installs it seems to reject the username/password.

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Re: Unable to Install on Lenovo ideapad Miix 310

Post by michael louwe » Sun Sep 02, 2018 3:31 pm

@ MattC3, .......
MattC3 wrote:.
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LM's default username = mint
default password = blank or just press Enter.

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Re: Unable to Install on Lenovo ideapad Miix 310

Post by MattC3 » Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:04 am

OK. Thanks.

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Re: Unable to Install on Lenovo ideapad Miix 310

Post by MattC3 » Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:00 pm

Got right to the point of rebooting and removing the installation disk. However, when I reboot/turn on, I get nothing. It starts to boot, but then goes blank.

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Re: Unable to Install on Lenovo ideapad Miix 310

Post by MattC3 » Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:02 pm

Hi,

Been a while, but I retried installing LM on the machine. It seems to have worked. Not sure what I did. My concern is that when it gets hot it causes a problem somewhere, as I recall the issue of trying to install various things more of a problem the longer the machine was on. Hopefully, it will be OK.

HOWEVER! I can't get the wifi working. I can't find any way to turn it on. There's no wifi switch on the machine (that I can find). When I click on the Network Devices icon in the bottom right had corner 'Enable Networking' is checked. Clicking on 'Network Connections' provides an empty list. Not sure what to do here.

Tried a different approach from another website. The laptop then seem to suggest that I needed the internet to update with the driver that I needed in order to get the wifi working in order to update the driver that I needed to... You get the point.

There is no Ethernet port.

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Re: Unable to Install on Lenovo ideapad Miix 310

Post by MattC3 » Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:29 am

Can I assume that no one has any suggestions? If that's so, unfortunately I may have to try a different OS to see if I can get it working - which is a real shame as LM seems like a great OS.

Matt

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Re: Unable to Install on Lenovo ideapad Miix 310

Post by kato181 » Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:44 am

MattC3 wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:02 pm
Hi,

Been a while, but I retried installing LM on the machine. It seems to have worked. Not sure what I did. My concern is that when it gets hot it causes a problem somewhere, as I recall the issue of trying to install various things more of a problem the longer the machine was on. Hopefully, it will be OK.

HOWEVER! I can't get the wifi working. I can't find any way to turn it on. There's no wifi switch on the machine (that I can find). When I click on the Network Devices icon in the bottom right had corner 'Enable Networking' is checked. Clicking on 'Network Connections' provides an empty list. Not sure what to do here.

Tried a different approach from another website. The laptop then seem to suggest that I needed the internet to update with the driver that I needed in order to get the wifi working in order to update the driver that I needed to... You get the point.

There is no Ethernet port.

Matt
If you have access to another computer, then download the linux driver for your wifi, providing there is one then install it from a usb stick.

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Re: Unable to Install on Lenovo ideapad Miix 310

Post by Pjotr » Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:15 am

MattC3 wrote:
Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:57 am
I'm trying to install 18.3
Try 19.2 instead.
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Re: Unable to Install on Lenovo ideapad Miix 310

Post by MattC3 » Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:47 am

Thanks kato181 and Pjotr.

kato181: I can only seem to find Windows drivers for this machine. Do you know of somewhere that I can download the Linux driver for it?

Pjotr: I may end up having to try this, but as I had so much trouble installing this one, I'm loathed to try again.

Thanks again.

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Re: Unable to Install on Lenovo ideapad Miix 310

Post by Pjotr » Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:55 am

MattC3 wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:47 am
Pjotr: I may end up having to try this, but as I had so much trouble installing this one, I'm loathed to try again.
That's up to you of course, but 19.2 is still your best shot. And even if it doesn't solve your issues, it'll be easier to help you. :wink:
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Re: Unable to Install on Lenovo ideapad Miix 310

Post by MattC3 » Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:01 am

Thanks Pjotr. Much appreciated.

Matt

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