32 bit Tara fails the installation (SOLVED)

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32 bit Tara fails the installation (SOLVED)

Post by bushyiii » Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:02 pm

Installed the ISO to a flash drive and booted Tara to an old laptop, Booting from the flash drive works well but after installing to the HDD the system fails the boot process. The splash screen starts then seems to hang and then it drops to a terminal with shell from BusyBox. (initramfs) is my prompt.

I tried booting again only this time doing the recovery option and found the following message:
Gave up waiting for root file system device . Common problems:
- Boot args (cat /proc/cmdline)
-Check rootdelay= (did the system wait long enough?)
- Missing modules (cat /proc/modules; ls/dev)
ALERT! UUID=D08C-EDD4 does not exist. Dropping to a shell!

I have no idea what UUID=D08C-EDD4 is, it isn't what is reported doing blkid for my HDD.

I checked the integrity of the download, it's good. The laptop is a Thinkpad T43 The processor is a i686 Pentium M with 2 gig of ram.

Any ideas?
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Re: 32 bit Tessa fails the installation

Post by tdockery97 » Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:25 am

Are you sure you didn't just have a strange dream last night? Tessa is the upcoming 19.1 release, not due out until November/December. Looking at the Mint Community site, it is still no where near entering testing.
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Re: 32 bit Tessa fails the installation

Post by richyrich » Tue Sep 18, 2018 7:58 am

I would suggest you open the Disks program, and run a Smart check on your hard drive.

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Re: 32 bit Tessa fails the installation

Post by rene » Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:06 am

bushyiii wrote:
Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:02 pm
Gave up waiting for root file system device . Common problems:
- Boot args (cat /proc/cmdline)
-Check rootdelay= (did the system wait long enough?)
- Missing modules (cat /proc/modules; ls/dev)
ALERT! UUID=D08C-EDD4 does not exist. Dropping to a shell!
That is a FAT-type (N)UUID. Did you (somehow; I wouldn't expect it to be possible, but...) format your / as FAT? Or did you have a FAT-formatted additional USB-stick or SD-card present during installation and did you in fact tell the installer to mount it somewhere? Or...

Well, that might give an idea. You've done something weird and it seems to involve a FAT-formatted device...

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Re: 32 bit Tara fails the installation

Post by bushyiii » Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:16 am

Initially I used gparted to create the ext4 filesystem before installing Tara. After the installation failed to boot I used gparted again and did find errors, they were corrected, again the install failed in the same way. Using the flash drive I again used gparted, this time no errors were discovered. Tried re-installing and it failed again.

Just now I booted Tara from the flash drive and did the file system check from the Disks app. It passed without errors.

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Re: 32 bit Tessa fails the installation

Post by bushyiii » Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:22 am

rene wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:06 am
bushyiii wrote:
Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:02 pm
Gave up waiting for root file system device . Common problems:
- Boot args (cat /proc/cmdline)
-Check rootdelay= (did the system wait long enough?)
- Missing modules (cat /proc/modules; ls/dev)
ALERT! UUID=D08C-EDD4 does not exist. Dropping to a shell!
That is a FAT-type (N)UUID. Did you (somehow; I wouldn't expect it to be possible, but...) format your / as FAT? Or did you have a FAT-formatted additional USB-stick or SD-card present during installation and did you in fact tell the installer to mount it somewhere? Or...

Well, that might give an idea. You've done something weird and it seems to involve a FAT-formatted device...
Well you are on to something. Tara iso was installed on the flash drive using an application called multibootusb. As the name implies it always multiple, bootable file systems to co-exist on the flash drive. I have used it before with multiple linux distros without issue but maybe it's the problem for Tara install. I will use etcher to recreate Tara on the smae flash drive and see if the install works.

Thanks for the info on "UUID=D08C-EDD4"

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Re: 32 bit Tara fails the installation

Post by rene » Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:26 am

bushyiii wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:22 am
I will use etcher to recreate Tara on the smae flash drive and see if the install works.
Be sure to keep us updated; sounded fun. If you are by the way doing this from Windows then "rufus" is generally advised; no experience with "etcher"...

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Re: 32 bit Tara fails the installation

Post by bushyiii » Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:15 am

Using the multibootusb application to flash Tara onto the usb drive created the problem. I used the etcher application on the same usb flash drive and had a successful install of Tara using it.

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Re: 32 bit Tara fails the installation (SOLVED)

Post by rene » Tue Sep 18, 2018 11:14 am

Thanks for reporting; good to know for others as well.

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Re: 32 bit Tara fails the installation (SOLVED)

Post by bushyiii » Thu Sep 20, 2018 10:07 am

For anyone not familiar with Etcher give this link a look: https://etcher.io/
I have played with so many distros over the last several years and putting the distro on a flash drive sure beats burning a cd. During this time I have used many installers and in my very humble opinion etcher is the easiest one that has always worked without a hiccup.

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Re: 32 bit Tara fails the installation (SOLVED)

Post by phd21 » Thu Sep 20, 2018 11:16 am

Hi bushyiii,

I just read your post and the good replies to it. Here are my thoughts on this as well.

+1 for Etcher, Multibootusb, and unetbootin (usb stick creators, usb image writers).

It would help to know more about your system setup. If you run "inxi -Fxzd" from the console terminal prompt of a Linux Mint system, highlight the results, copy and paste them back here, that should provide enough information. There have been many times where I noticed that people are installing (or installed) a 32-bit Linux Mint system on a computer because MS Windows was 32-bit when in fact the computer is actually using a 64-bit CPU (processor) and the results from this will tell us (under CPU Flags ="lm" = 64-bit). If the computer is 32-bit, I would advise installing Linux Mint Mate or Xfce 32-bit edition rather than Cinnamon.

There is no need to pre-format a drive or its partition to install Linux Mint. Which edition of Linux Mint (Cinnamon, Mate, Xfce) are you trying to install?
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Re: 32 bit Tara fails the installation (SOLVED)

Post by bushyiii » Thu Sep 20, 2018 4:25 pm

ThinkPad-T43:~$ inxi -Fxzd
System: Host: guy-ThinkPad-T43 Kernel: 4.15.0-34-generic i686
bits: 32 gcc: 7.3.0
Desktop: Cinnamon 3.8.9 (Gtk 3.22.30-1ubuntu1)
Distro: Linux Mint 19 Tara
Machine: Device: laptop System: IBM product: 18714BU v: ThinkPad T43 serial: N/A
Mobo: IBM model: 18714BU serial: N/A
BIOS: IBM v: 70ET69WW (1.29 ) date: 05/29/2007
Battery BAT0: charge: 52.2 Wh 93.1% condition: 56.1/71.3 Wh (79%)
model: SANYO IBM-92P1075 status: Discharging
CPU: Single core Intel Pentium M (-UP-)
arch: Dothan rev.8 cache: 2048 KB
flags: (nx pae sse sse2) bmips: 3722 speed: 1866 MHz (max)
Graphics: Card: Intel Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller
bus-ID: 00:02.0
Display Server: x11 (X.Org 1.19.6 )
drivers: intel (unloaded: modesetting,fbdev,vesa)
Resolution: 1024x768@60.00hz
OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 915GM x86/MMX/SSE2
version: 1.4 Mesa 18.0.5 Direct Render: Yes
Audio: Card Intel 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller
driver: snd_intel8x0 ports: 1c00 18c0 bus-ID: 00:1e.2
Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.15.0-34-generic
Network: Card-1: Broadcom Limited NetXtreme BCM5751M Gigabit Ethernet PCIE
driver: tg3 v: 3.137 bus-ID: 02:00.0
IF: enp2s0 state: down mac: <filter>
Card-2: Intel PRO/Wireless 2915ABG [Calexico2] Network Connection
driver: ipw2200 v: 1.2.2kmprq bus-ID: 04:02.0
IF: wlp4s2 state: up mac: <filter>
Drives: HDD Total Size: 40.0GB (21.0% used)
ID-1: /dev/sda model: TOSHIBA_MK4026GA size: 40.0GB
Optical-1: /dev/sr0 model: MATSHITA UJDA765 DVD/CDRW
rev: 1.70 dev-links: cdrom,cdrw,dvd
Features: speed: 24x multisession: yes
audio: yes dvd: yes rw: cd-r,cd-rw state: running
Partition: ID-1: / size: 37G used: 7.9G (23%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
RAID: No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 43.0C mobo: 37.0C
Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: 3170
Info: Processes: 165 Uptime: 7 min Memory: 414.1/1496.3MB
Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 7.3.0
Client: Shell (bash 4.4.191) inxi: 2.3.56

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Re: 32 bit Tara fails the installation (SOLVED)

Post by phd21 » Thu Sep 20, 2018 4:36 pm

Hi bushyiii,

The results show only 32-bit single-core Pentium M processor with only 1.5gb of system memory perhaps some of the system memory is for shared video graphics.

I would still recommend using Linux Mint Xfce or Mate 32-bit for this computer.

Hope this helps ...
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Re: 32 bit Tara fails the installation (SOLVED)

Post by bushyiii » Thu Sep 20, 2018 5:16 pm

I will give Mate a try but Cinnamon does work on the laptop

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Re: 32 bit Tara fails the installation (SOLVED)

Post by phd21 » Thu Sep 20, 2018 5:23 pm

Hi bushyiii,

Unlike buying a computer with an operating system already installed on it like most have with MS Windows or Mac where the hardware has been matched, with Linux I always recommend to new users to burn a DVD or USB stick of each version of Linux operating system to boot to it and try it out to see which edition and version works best for your hardware and that you like the most. You may decide to stick with Cinnamon even though it requires more system resources to run well than does Xfce or Mate. If you are getting "software rendering" issues in Cinnamon, then try another. I could not get an older IBM Netvista computer to run Cinnamon without getting "software rendering" issues which is a problem.
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Re: 32 bit Tara fails the installation (SOLVED)

Post by bushyiii » Thu Sep 20, 2018 9:47 pm

Cinnamon and Mate versions are now co-existing on the laptop. I can get a much better idea of which will stay as I try different tasks on each version. It does appear though that mate is responding to commands quicker.

Just curious why do you recommend users burn CDs rather than installing the distro on a flash drive? There's no on going expense to using the flash drive cycling through various distros in contrast to burning CDs and if desired, the flash drive can be created with persistence such that you can carry the OS with your personal files in your pocket.

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Re: 32 bit Tara fails the installation (SOLVED)

Post by phd21 » Thu Sep 20, 2018 11:16 pm

HI bushyiii,

I recommend using either a DVD or USB stick for burning the installation "test drive" versions of Linux Mint. The USB stick is actually faster and can be used with "persistence". You can even fully install Linux Mint onto USB sticks of 20gb or larger (requires 2 USB sticks or a DVD and a USB stick). I have a few smaller USB sticks with persistence for testing different editions and versions and I have a fully installed Linux Mint onto a 32gb USB stick for a portable Linux Mint system and backup just in case.
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