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Installing Mint 18.3 from USB gives no options

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:14 am
by Tuxkid
I've used LM 17.3 for a long time and wanted to install 18.3 on the same disk.

However, I found no options that responded. There was a screen that looked like it gave options, but clicking boxes had no effect.
In the end, I could only install to the whole disk and format (i.e.) destroy everything on it. For previous versions I could resize partitions, select what file system to use, how much of the disk to use, etc.

Is that the new way of doing things?

Re: Installing Mint 18.3 from USB gives no options

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:22 am
by Moem
No, that's not the new way of doing things (also 18.3 is not new, but okay). Can you post a screenshot of the HD in GParted? Is there any free space? If there is no free space, you will not be offered the option to install alongside.

Re: Installing Mint 18.3 from USB gives no options

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:58 pm
by pbear
Too late now, I suppose, but what you should have used Tuxkid was the "Something Else" method. That's where you'll find the options you describe.

Re: Installing Mint 18.3 from USB gives no options

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 4:59 am
by Tuxkid
Moem wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:22 am
No, that's not the new way of doing things (also 18.3 is not new, but okay). Can you post a screenshot of the HD in GParted? Is there any free space? If there is no free space, you will not be offered the option to install alongside.
I've only ever used GParted from a boot disk, but this shows I have plenty of space.

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> df -h
Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
udev            3.9G   12K  3.9G   1% /dev
tmpfs           794M  1.5M  792M   1% /run
/dev/dm-0       909G  327G  537G  38% /
none            4.0K     0  4.0K   0% /sys/fs/cgroup
none            5.0M  4.0K  5.0M   1% /run/lock
none            3.9G  234M  3.7G   6% /run/shm
none            100M   48K  100M   1% /run/user
/dev/sdb1       236M   83M  141M  38% /boot
I gave up and decided to buy a new laptop (which of course had Windows 10 on it) with a half-terabyte disk so plenty of room. Windows didn't take up all of a new disk. I tried to dual-boot Win-10 and LinuxMint 18.3 (so I could still use KDE). I tried Mint 18.3, Kubuntu 18.04 and KDE Neon but in none of them could I find out how to repartition a fairly large disk. I got tired of looking and let it have its way, so now no dual boot -- which probably doesn't matter, but I'd like to know for future reference.

Re: Installing Mint 18.3 from USB gives no options

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:04 am
by Tuxkid
pbear wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:58 pm
Too late now, I suppose, but what you should have used Tuxkid was the "Something Else" method. That's where you'll find the options you describe.
I don't recall seeing "Something Else" but I do remember a box for 'Manual' which I thought was what I wanted, but when I tried to tick a box, nothing happened. It was nothing like the dialog I'd seen for previous versions.

Re: Installing Mint 18.3 from USB gives no options

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:54 am
by lsemmens
I just "upgraded" a computer from 18.3 to 19 and it offered to install 19 alongside 18.3 which is not what I needed, so I optioned to blow it all away and use the whole drive for Mint 19. The option for installing alongside another OS is definitely there.

Re: Installing Mint 18.3 from USB gives no options

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:01 am
by Sgthawker
It is best to free up space using windows disk management tool leaving space unallocated. Then use gparted from the live boot to partition as needed, then install Mint.
Keep in mind to turn off fast restart in windows, and secure boot and fast boot in the firmware.

Re: Installing Mint 18.3 from USB gives no options

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:38 am
by pbear
Tuxkid wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:04 am
pbear wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:58 pm
Too late now, I suppose, but what you should have used Tuxkid was the "Something Else" method. That's where you'll find the options you describe.
I don't recall seeing "Something Else"
Why would I make this up? In fact, the Installation Type screen is the same for both:

InstallationType18.png
InstallationType17.png
Both images pulled from VirtualBox, as if reinstalling from ISO.

Re: Installing Mint 18.3 from USB gives no options

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:47 am
by Tuxkid
pbear wrote:
Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:38 am
Tuxkid wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:04 am
pbear wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:58 pm
Too late now, I suppose, but what you should have used Tuxkid was the "Something Else" method. That's where you'll find the options you describe.
I don't recall seeing "Something Else"
Why would I make this up? In fact, the Installation Type screen is the same for both:
I wasn't inferring that you made it up. It's my memory of what I saw a month or so ago is defective. I can't believe I was so unobservant! I had a memory of the bottom one labelled "manual". Could it be different for installing KDE?
I avoid upgrading OSes as much as possible, so there's a big gap between the times I do so. An ailing memory doesn't help.
InstallationType18.pngInstallationType17.png

Both images pulled from VirtualBox, as if reinstalling from ISO.

Re: Installing Mint 18.3 from USB gives no options

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:34 am
by pbear
Tuxkid wrote:
Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:47 am
Could it be different for installing KDE?
Turns out, yes. That's why it's important to include such information in the OP, so folks don't waste their time answering the wrong question.

Anyhoo, as far as I can tell, Manual in KDE is identical to Something Else in the other desktops, but I'll let someone with more KDE experience try to figure out what you're doing wrong. And, you know, it would help a lot if you started with the realization you're probably doing something wrong.

Good luck.

Re: Installing Mint 18.3 from USB gives no options

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 4:07 am
by Tuxkid
pbear wrote:
Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:34 am
Tuxkid wrote:
Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:47 am
Could it be different for installing KDE?
Turns out, yes. That's why it's important to include such information in the OP, so folks don't waste their time answering the wrong question.
It never occurred to me that the difference using KDE came into effect at that early stage. Decisions are made as to where; decisions are being made as to what, I thought, are being made rather later. So I thought there'd be no difference at that stage. More fool me.
.. And, you know, it would help a lot if you started with the realization you're probably doing something wrong.

Good luck.
I thought it was implicit that I was missing something, not offering a HowTo.

Thanks for clearing that up. I wasn't imagining that I had seen the word 'manual' where other people saw 'something else'.