is 19.3 tricia ready for prime time?

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is 19.3 tricia ready for prime time?

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Is it safe to update yet?
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No. It will cause your computer to explode.
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sarcasm? It must be safe then?
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Running Mate with no burps, gurgles, bumps, glitches, bells, whistles, flags or hissy fits. That's even with the computer turned on.
EDIT: Did a clean fresh install
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Thanks, Joe.
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If you were able to immediately recognize that as non-serious then why would you ask in the first place?

Just download it and test it from the live/installer system; it's fine for me on two systems. Your system is a different system, but there's nothing generically wrong with 19.3.
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Re: is 19.3 tricia ready for prime time?

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JoeBingo wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2019 6:01 pm
Running Mate with no burps, gurgles, bumps, glitches, bells, whistles, flags or hissy fits.
Ok, but what about the OS?

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Re: is 19.3 tricia ready for prime time?

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Hello, bmike1.

What are you currently using? Linux Mint 19.2? Desktop environment: Mate, Cinnamon or xfce?
In which way do you plan to upgrade?
+ in-place via Update Manager?
+ by installing Mint 19.3 from scratch?

What kind of answer do you expect to a question which is so general, "Is 19.3 tricia ready for prime time?"
If you ask the Mint developer team their answer will be, "Yes, it is."
If you ask users who have upgraded successfully their answer will be, "Yes, it is."
If you ask users who have reported problems when upgrading or problems experienced on the upgraded systems, then their might be less enthusiastic.

None of us Mint users and forum users will be able to forecast reliably what your personal experience will be when upgrading and later on with your upgraded system.

Trying to give a meaningful answer to your question nonetheless, let me quote the answer, which had been given to a similar question in the announcement thread "How to upgrade to Linux Mint 19.3":
karlchen wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 11:58 am
LM 19.1 Tessa has been upgraded to LM 19.3 Tricia by now.
LM 19.3 xfce "tricia" is up and running. :D
The whole, not too exciting story can be found here: Upgrade to LM 19.3 xfce from LM19.1 xfce - Bye bye to Tessa after 6 months only
With respect to upgrading [...] to LM 19.3 Tricia, I do not see any reason why the process should not succeed. But as always in real life: you never can be sure, before you have tried it. :)
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catweazel wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2019 6:06 pm
JoeBingo wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2019 6:01 pm
Running Mate with no burps, gurgles, bumps, glitches, bells, whistles, flags or hissy fits.
Ok, but what about the OS?

:mrgreen:
The ONLY thing I ran into was speaker "pops" on my desktop (when shutdown, startup or initiating any soundfile local or on the web). Lapbook audio is fine ... prolly different audio hardware configuration. On the desktop I disabled audio power save, which was disabled by default in the previous 4.15 kernel, and that corrected the "problem".
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thanks. I upgraded with no problems except youtube sound still does not work on recent kernels
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My lappy is running fine, have just upgraded my "server" and it hung on the mint logo- a quick power refresh and it is now working fine. So, my answer would be YES! It's performing as well, if not, slightly better than before. I certainly have not gone "WOW - this is amazing", as far a I am concerned, it does what the packet says, and I've not noticed any real differences, apart from the new logo, yet.
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bmike1 wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2019 6:59 pm
thanks. I upgraded with no problems except youtube sound still does not work on recent kernels
delete everything in .cache folder, run pulseaudio -k <<< wait a few seconds , then logout/in or reboot
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Nope... didn't work
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there were, however, a couple of files that would not delete
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bmike1 wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2019 11:10 pm
Nope... didn't work
Close the browser, delete the files in ~/.config/pulse then run pulseaudio -k in the terminal. Open the browser and test.

Of course, check the youtube volume control as well when the mouse is inside the player window.
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My experience, the suggested upgrade route from 19.2 resulted in a number of problems related to the sound software (pulse audio, audacity, vlc) resulting in system freeze. However after a fresh install all seems to be working well.

I'd suggest adding gparted to the standard install, this is an invaluable admin tool.
GIMP would be nice also, the Pix application lacks an option for saving images with lower file size (essential for web/server efficiency)

The only negative on my setup is the Grub boot screen. It looks pretty but on a dual screen (laptop + external monitor) but there is no background image. I have a slowly revealing menu for which navigation / selection is a complete mystery. I've added a couple of additional boot options and sometimes, using the down arrow, I can see them, but I cannot work out how to select them.

NB: the MX OS installed for testing deals with Grub very efficiently, so much so that I have used its Grub as my boot option.

Overall, aside from the Grub issue, the latest Mint XFCE looks great and works well.
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The only major thing I've noticed is that LM 19.3 shuts down quite a bit faster than any of the previous 19.x versions, at least on my own machine.
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Hello, Derek_S.

You do not tell what kind of machine you use, old or new and fast or slow. This might make the difference.
On Mint 19.3 the default timeout, which systemd will wait for processes to terminate when told to do so, has been drastically reduced from 90 seconds (this is really long) down to 10 seconds (this may be really short on old and slow machines).

You might be interested in this post, Systemd DefaultTimeoutStopSec Re-Adjusted. You will learn which setting precisely has been changed on Mint 19.3 and how to modify it for your system, if needed. - You do not have to configure the same timeout as me.

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Hello @ karlchen - Thanks for the reply and for the explanation. Looks like I didn't read the LM 19.3 release notes in their entirety. :oops:

My machine is an old Lenovo Thinkpad T400, which has been running Linux Mint Cinnamon without issues since LM 15 Olivia, and I haven't experienced any problems so far with 19.3. If I do have any issues with shutdown, it's good to know I can /etc/systemd/system.conf.d/60_custom.conf and make adjustments if necessary.
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Derek_S wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2019 10:42 am
The only major thing I've noticed is that LM 19.3 shuts down quite a bit faster than any of the previous 19.x versions, at least on my own machine.
you and me both, 19.3 shuts down faster than any other version of Mint that I have tried.
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