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Install Windows alongside running LinuxMint?

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:42 pm
by InChrist
Hi :)

I have used the whole disk space for LinuxMint and the partition is encrypted and with LVM2.

I need Windows now for a job.
Free space 45 GB at the moment.
I tried to resize the partition to have space for a new NTFS partition for Windows but resizing is not possible with Disks and Gparted.

What to do? What options?

Happy about clear and competent help.

Greetings
Klaus

Re: Install Windows alongside running LinuxMint?

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 7:08 pm
by Schultz
You can't resize a partition that's in use. Boot from your Mint installation media then do your resizing.

Installing Windows (after Mint) wipes away Grub (that's the bootloader), so that will have to be fixed.

Re: Install Windows alongside running LinuxMint?

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 4:00 am
by InChrist
Thanks, Schultz. :)

Also to others:
Is this possible without regret for me as a user not an Linux expert?
Will the running system still work?
How to make dual boot available then?

Blessings,
Klaus

Re: Install Windows alongside running LinuxMint?

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 5:16 am
by ninemen
Well i am no expert but the recommended way is to install windows first and then linux.if this is possible u should do reinstallation with scratch
Now if u cant do that,there are many workarounds to get the job done ,and i think your system would be stable too[unless windows does something] but it is not recommended.
If possible can u buy a new hard drive?i think it will make things a lot easier and the chances of stability will increase too.[Equivalent to reinstallation]
First remove the Linux drive(Primary hdd/sdd) from the system ,
Buy a new(secondary) hdd/sdd and install windows on it as usual,
then plug both drives such that linux is primary drive and as soon as u will boot in linux it will automatically detect windows or u can do a update grub command

if not possible then u will have to do the partitioning then install windows but windows will delete grub ,then after install u have to boot into linux live medium and do grub commands or use boot repair
[If u want i am sure there are many people here who can help u do it conveniently and i can share my personal tips too dont worry]
P.s I also perform this dual bot ritual but i have not booted into windows for atleast 7 moths lol

Re: Install Windows alongside running LinuxMint?

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:35 am
by InChrist
Hm, I have one SSD in my laptop, no second one. I guess when just running Windows from a Windows live stick - if there is something like this - it will be very slow?
Also installing Windows on an external hard disc is slow I guess?

Re: Install Windows alongside running LinuxMint?

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:47 am
by ninemen
First of all there is no live "Windows" if i am correct
And Installing windows on a external hard drive is a bad idea.Does ur device support multiple hard drives

Re: Install Windows alongside running LinuxMint?

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:07 am
by InChrist
I guess only one internal disk is possible?

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Re: Install Windows alongside running LinuxMint?

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 4:14 pm
by Schultz
Have you thought about running Windows in a VM (via an app like VirtualBox)?

Re: Install Windows alongside running LinuxMint?

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 5:29 pm
by InChrist
Is this fast and working without problems?

Re: Install Windows alongside running LinuxMint?

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 5:57 pm
by InChrist
Wow, I see I would need to buy a product key for $139 from MS for Windows 10 Home ...

Re: Install Windows alongside running LinuxMint?

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:37 pm
by Schultz
I've only tried a VM once, a while ago. I was just throwing it out there as an option to consider.

Re: Install Windows alongside running LinuxMint?

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 12:53 am
by ninemen
InChrist wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 5:57 pm
Wow, I see I would need to buy a product key for $139 from MS for Windows 10 Home ...
Hey wdym by this were you not aware of this before?is this a joke or somthing?
Nvm i have heard that u can uses free version i.e trial version and it will lack some feature(i think only a few regarding background or stuff) also u get a watermark of activating windows

Re: Install Windows alongside running LinuxMint?

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 7:17 am
by AndyMH
You can download a 'developers' virtualbox image here:
https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/w ... -machines/
licence is valid for 90 days. If you need it longer, then rinse and repeat.

Alternatively, download the win10 iso from MS and purchase a licence key via amazon, I've done that twice and it worked both times from different vendors. I paid £5 for the last one and £12 for the first one. Was surprised that the £5 one was a retail licence, the £12 one was a volume licence. Obviously taking a chance and maybe I've been lucky.

If you only have a short term or occasional need for win, I would not dual boot. Virtualbox is the way to go.

Re: Install Windows alongside running LinuxMint?

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 9:03 am
by ajgreeny
I have used the developer's version of Win7 and Win10 for updating my satnav device without problems in Virtualbox and even still have a WinXP.

Re: Install Windows alongside running LinuxMint?

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 9:10 am
by InChrist
Hi,

thank you, all who answered. :)

While I see the opportunities now according to your advice, with VirtualBox on the one hand, or reducing the size of the encrypted LVM2 partition with a Live stick before installing it alongside Linux on the other hand,
the only correct way to use Windows in my setting seems to buy Windows 10 from the store. I asked the project manager now if they have a special agreement with MS ...

However, I have learned from you and found some links about the intended use of Windows 10 licences.

Blessings :D,
Klaus

Re: Install Windows alongside running LinuxMint?

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 1:33 pm
by InChrist
Hi agian,

I have tested starting with a Mint-Live-Stick, but also this way I do not have the option to resize the encyrypted LVM2 partition to get space for a new partition in order to install Windows alongside.

Happy about clear and competent advice, backing up what is said or bringing in new aspects ...

Blessings, Klaus :)