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Is this the best way to fresh install windows 10 + mint?

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:37 pm
by chronogrim
I am doing a fresh install of both windows 10 and Linux mint tomorrow. I just want to make sure I'm doing this 100% optimally.

I'll pretty much wipe my entire computer, and fresh install windows 10.
Then partition and install mint? That's my key question here. Would it be ideal to make both partitions before installing windows (somehow), or does it really not matter?
I was just going to make one additional partition, the /swap. I have 8GB of ram. So this partition should be exactly that right?

Last question if you don't mind. Is there any point to formatting the entire hard drive before installing the Os'? Or is the pretty much pointless, and I can write over everything with the new installs?

Thank you much! Just started using Linux a couple weeks ago, so amazing.

Re: Is this the best way to fresh install windows 10 + mint?

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 5:49 am
by arvy
Not really sure about "optimal", but either installer is generally happier doing its own thing in its own way to the fullest extent that you'll allow. That includes making use of whatever free unallocated (i.e., unformatted) space that you provide for it. So just quick-deleting all existing partition is probably easiest way to start and assign space from there. Installing Windows first is definitely the right order in which to proceed. I'd also suggest that you ensure Windows is fully updated before installing anything else. Its "after the fact" updates have a very bad habit of messing around with partitions and with EFI boot loader priorities, both on disk and in NVRAM

Re: Is this the best way to fresh install windows 10 + mint?

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 5:50 am
by lsemmens
I'd install Wingewoes first, letting it format the drive and install itself. Then boot from your Linux edition and allow it to install alongside the Wingers OS. It should give you the option to partition the drive appropriately and install. Eventually, when you are more comfy with Linux, you'll happily re-arrange things to suit yourself.

Is there any real reason why you still need windows? Or are you just hedging your bets?

Re: Is this the best way to fresh install windows 10 + mint?

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 10:38 am
by chronogrim
Thanks for the solid information guys.

lsemmons. You got me there. There is no real reason I still need windows. I'm just worried I might need it again at some point in the future. I used to game a lot, but I try not to waste my time doing it any more. Would I be able to virtual box windows 10 for niche uses? Like converting a photoshop file into a readable file on gimp?

Re: Is this the best way to fresh install windows 10 + mint?

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 11:49 am
by Linux-Bill
Sadly, there are still a few Windows only programs out there that I need.

TurboTax
Quicken
Print Shop
Front Page (when I am to lazy to write my own HTML code)
several amateur radio programs - I can do without, but do enjoy from time to time

Others have been mitigated by using Wine or coding my own stuff (a lot of work to reinvent the wheel)

So, I dual boot. Other option is do two computers - and monitors, keyboards, mice, etc.?

Re: Is this the best way to fresh install windows 10 + mint?

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:35 pm
by Anton32828
I just did this. The main issue is your boot loader (you may know this already). The Windows 10 installer over-writes all other boot partitions. So, you have to install it first, then install Linux. Linux installs the Gnu boot utility (GRUB), which is happy to let you choose between Linux and other OS.

Procedure to wipe and re-install on a single disk:

1) In Windows 10, use the control panel option of "Reset this PC" to wipe your drive and re-install Windows. Depending upon the age of your Windows configuration, you may have to go through several Windows Update cycles to get the latest version properly updated on your machine.

2) Use Windows Disk Management to shrink your Windows partition. To find it, click on "start" and search for "create and format hard disk partitions." I had a 1TB disk, so I kept half for Windows and the other half for Linux. Shrinking your Windows partition is low risk when the installation is new. Format the new partition as NTFS for now, so you can easily identify it during Linux installation.

3) Use a USB stick to install LInux Mint. Let the installer automatically format the NTFS partition you created in step 2. If you want to install multimedia codecs, you may first have to change your BIOS settings to disable "secure boot." This is covered in the Linux Mint installation guide.

When you reboot after Step 3, you should see a menu to select Linux or Windows on startup.

If you have Windows 10 Pro, another option is to run Linux under Windows using a Hyper-V virtual machine. I used this tutorial to successfully install LMDE on my machine. But for this to be practical, you need a powerful CPU and extra RAM (8gb or more). My 8gb Celeron machine got it running, but the performance wasn't good.

https://www.windowscentral.com/how-run- ... ng-hyper-v

Good luck & have fun!