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difference in Mint 19.3 and 20
Dual boot Mint 19.3 and Mint 20. Mint 19.3 takes 2 minutes 35 seconds to boot , Mint 20 1 minute 20 seconds. Mint 20 is a fresh install without any extra applications installed while in 19.3 I have installed many applications. Is this the problem?
Mint 19.3 free memory 5.3 GB 5.9 gb. This is without starting any application.
Mint 19.3 free memory 5.3 GB 5.9 gb. This is without starting any application.
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Re: difference in Mint 19.3 and 20
I have LM 20 cinnamon and LM 19.3 cinnamon installed on the same nvme SSD disk. Below are my boot times according to systemd-analyze. Maybe it is time that you upgrade your disk.
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lm 20 cinnamon
@flbu727:~$ systemd-analyze
Startup finished in 5.348s (firmware) + 2.695s (loader) + 3.512s (kernel) + 3.425s (userspace) = 14.981s
graphical.target reached after 2.964s in userspace
@flbu727:~$ free
total used free shared buff/cache available
Mem: 16221940 557112 14920776 104832 744052 15277916
Swap: 1551124 0 1551124
lm 19.3 cinnamon
@flbu727:~$ systemd-analyze
Startup finished in 5.364s (firmware) + 3.223s (loader) + 4.385s (kernel) + 1.736s (userspace) = 14.710s
graphical.target reached after 1.498s in userspace
@flbu727:~$ free
total used free shared buff/cache available
Mem: 16221964 458928 15242856 102236 520180 15386236
Swap: 1551124 0 1551124
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Re: difference in Mint 19.3 and 20
Your start times for both systems are almost same, in my case start system of 19.3 is twice that of LM 20.senjoz wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 2:06 pmI have LM 20 cinnamon and LM 19.3 cinnamon installed on the same nvme SSD disk. Below are my boot times according to systemd-analyze. Maybe it is time that you upgrade your disk.Regards,Code: Select all
lm 20 cinnamon @flbu727:~$ systemd-analyze Startup finished in 5.348s (firmware) + 2.695s (loader) + 3.512s (kernel) + 3.425s (userspace) = 14.981s graphical.target reached after 2.964s in userspace @flbu727:~$ free total used free shared buff/cache available Mem: 16221940 557112 14920776 104832 744052 15277916 Swap: 1551124 0 1551124 lm 19.3 cinnamon @flbu727:~$ systemd-analyze Startup finished in 5.364s (firmware) + 3.223s (loader) + 4.385s (kernel) + 1.736s (userspace) = 14.710s graphical.target reached after 1.498s in userspace @flbu727:~$ free total used free shared buff/cache available Mem: 16221964 458928 15242856 102236 520180 15386236 Swap: 1551124 0 1551124
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Re: difference in Mint 19.3 and 20
Try with:
or
Maybe you will see where the problem is.
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systemd-analyze blame
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systemd-analyze critical-chain
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Re: difference in Mint 19.3 and 20
Is this your 19.3 which has been upgraded in place since 17.something, and has a ton of weird extra services running, and which dies every time you try and clean out residual config (upsetting DAMIEN1307 in the process -deepakdeshp wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:16 pmMint 19.3 free memory 5.3 GB 5.9 gb. This is without starting any application.

That'll be the reason why. Time for a nuke and pave.
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Re: difference in Mint 19.3 and 20
imho these are terrible boot times--even using hdd.Dual boot Mint 19.3 and Mint 20. Mint 19.3 takes 2 minutes 35 seconds to boot , Mint 20 1 minute 20 seconds.
Mostly I see 18-24 seconds on hdd, but with ssd about 9.2 seconds for a well populated and used Mint 19.3 MATE,
and 7.3 seconds for a freshly installed Mint 20 MATE
My inxi:
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$ inxi -Fxz
System: Host: labonline Kernel: 5.4.0-39-generic x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 7.5.0 Desktop: MATE 1.22.2
Distro: Linux Mint 19.3 Tricia base: Ubuntu 18.04 bionic
Machine: Type: Desktop System: LENOVO product: 4157D51 v: ThinkStation S20 serial: <filter>
Mobo: LENOVO model: LENOVO serial: <filter> BIOS: LENOVO v: 60KT47AUS date: 01/15/2014
CPU: Topology: Quad Core model: Intel Xeon W3550 bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Nehalem rev: 5 L2 cache: 8192 KiB
flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 48943
Speed: 2055 MHz min/max: 1596/3060 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1616 2: 1598 3: 1649 4: 1614 5: 1682 6: 1602 7: 1672
8: 1621
Graphics: Device-1: NVIDIA G96GL [Quadro FX 580] driver: nouveau v: kernel bus ID: 02:00.0
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.19.6 driver: nouveau unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz
OpenGL: renderer: NV96 v: 3.3 Mesa 19.2.8 direct render: Yes
Audio: Device-1: Intel 82801JI HD Audio vendor: Lenovo driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1b.0
Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.4.0-39-generic
Network: Device-1: Intel 82574L Gigabit Network driver: e1000e v: 3.2.6-k port: 3000 bus ID: 04:00.0
IF: ens1 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Device-2: Broadcom and subsidiaries NetXtreme BCM5755 Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express vendor: Lenovo driver: tg3
v: 3.137 port: 3000 bus ID: 05:00.0
IF: ens5 state: down mac: <filter>
Drives: Local Storage: total: 2.30 TiB used: 228.37 GiB (9.7%)
ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Western Digital model: WD1600HLFS-75G6U1 size: 149.01 GiB
ID-2: /dev/sdb vendor: Samsung model: SSD 860 EVO 250GB size: 232.89 GiB
ID-3: /dev/sdc vendor: Seagate model: ST2000DM008-2FR102 size: 1.82 TiB
ID-4: /dev/sdd vendor: PNY model: CS900 120GB SSD size: 111.79 GiB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 29.21 GiB used: 12.66 GiB (43.3%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sdb1
ID-2: /home size: 113.17 GiB used: 2.37 GiB (2.1%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sdb6
ID-3: swap-1 size: 3.72 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sdb5
Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 44.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: nouveau temp: 52 C
Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A gpu: nouveau fan: 0
Info: Processes: 238 Uptime: 3h 54m Memory: 15.63 GiB used: 2.07 GiB (13.3%) Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Compilers:
gcc: 7.5.0 Shell: bash v: 4.4.20 inxi: 3.0.32
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Re: difference in Mint 19.3 and 20
Qute short boot times for the nine years old system. How you measured 7.3 seconds. Can you post output of systemd-analyze?all41 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:07 amimho these are terrible boot times--even using hdd.
Mostly I see 18-24 seconds on hdd, but with ssd about 9.2 seconds for a well populated and used Mint 19.3 MATE,
and 7.3 seconds for a freshly installed Mint 20 MATE
This system is 9ish years old and came with W7.
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Re: difference in Mint 19.3 and 20
The machine that was nuked and upset Damien was the same and I have been upgrading it since Mint 17. Will see how my luck holds this time and will the upgrade from 19.3 to 20 break it . If it doesnt, I plan to take the upgrade path.smurphos wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 12:59 amIs this your 19.3 which has been upgraded in place since 17.something, and has a ton of weird extra services running, and which dies every time you try and clean out residual config (upsetting DAMIEN1307 in the process -deepakdeshp wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:16 pmMint 19.3 free memory 5.3 GB 5.9 gb. This is without starting any application.)
That'll be the reason why. Time for a nuke and pave.
If I have helped you solve a problem, please add [SOLVED] to your first post title, it helps other users looking for help, and keeps the forum clean.
Regards,
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Re: difference in Mint 19.3 and 20
Here they are:senjoz wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:57 amQute short boot times for the nine years old system. How you measured 7.3 seconds. Can you post output of systemd-analyze?all41 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:07 amimho these are terrible boot times--even using hdd.
Mostly I see 18-24 seconds on hdd, but with ssd about 9.2 seconds for a well populated and used Mint 19.3 MATE,
and 7.3 seconds for a freshly installed Mint 20 MATE
This system is 9ish years old and came with W7.
Regards,
Jože
MATE 19.3
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$ systemd-analyze
Startup finished in 6.190s (kernel) + 3.268s (userspace) = 9.458s
graphical.target reached after 3.259s in userspace
and heavy multimedia editing.
MATE 20
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$ systemd-analyze
Startup finished in 5.793s (kernel) + 1.977s (userspace) = 7.770s
graphical.target reached after 1.965s in userspace
Light travels faster than sound. That's why some people appear smart until you hear what they are saying.
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Re: difference in Mint 19.3 and 20
I believe you have a bios system and not an efi system. For bios systems systemd-analyze does not count firmware and bootloader times. For efi systems systemd-analyze includes also these times, see my post above. What are your real boot times measured with a stopwatch, from pressing the power button to the login screen?all41 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 1:22 pm
Here they are:
MATE 19.3This was installed as a beta when 19.3 was first released and used daily for general pcCode: Select all
$ systemd-analyze Startup finished in 6.190s (kernel) + 3.268s (userspace) = 9.458s graphical.target reached after 3.259s in userspace
and heavy multimedia editing.
MATE 20I added many multimedia apps to lm20 this morning and the boot time has now increased a half-second to 7.77.Code: Select all
$ systemd-analyze Startup finished in 5.793s (kernel) + 1.977s (userspace) = 7.770s graphical.target reached after 1.965s in userspace
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Re: difference in Mint 19.3 and 20
What do you use for photo editing and video editing?
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Mint 20.1 Cinnamon AMD Ryzen3500U/8gb
Re: difference in Mint 19.3 and 20
For photo I am using rawtherapee and darktable. Video mostly kdenlive, openshot, some cinelerra and flowblade.
Light travels faster than sound. That's why some people appear smart until you hear what they are saying.
You will seldom see a grey-beard wearing a tinfoil hat.
You will seldom see a grey-beard wearing a tinfoil hat.
Re: difference in Mint 19.3 and 20
Here is from a system a couple years newer:senjoz wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:48 pmI believe you have a bios system and not an efi system. For bios systems systemd-analyze does not count firmware and bootloader times. For efi systems systemd-analyze includes also these times, see my post above. What are your real boot times measured with a stopwatch, from pressing the power button to the login screen?all41 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 1:22 pm
Here they are:
MATE 19.3This was installed as a beta when 19.3 was first released and used daily for general pcCode: Select all
$ systemd-analyze Startup finished in 6.190s (kernel) + 3.268s (userspace) = 9.458s graphical.target reached after 3.259s in userspace
and heavy multimedia editing.
MATE 20I added many multimedia apps to lm20 this morning and the boot time has now increased a half-second to 7.77.Code: Select all
$ systemd-analyze Startup finished in 5.793s (kernel) + 1.977s (userspace) = 7.770s graphical.target reached after 1.965s in userspace
Regards,
Jože
Light travels faster than sound. That's why some people appear smart until you hear what they are saying.
You will seldom see a grey-beard wearing a tinfoil hat.
You will seldom see a grey-beard wearing a tinfoil hat.