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Missing "Docky" after upgrade to 20.0

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I upgraded to Mint to 20 Cinnamon, and it seems the upgrade removed the "Docky" application dock. Mint won't let me reinstall it through the package manager- Docky is now missing from the Software Manager app.

I tried re-adding the repository, but I can't add the PPA to the list; doing so produces this error:

~$ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:docky-core/stable
Cannot add PPA: ''This PPA does not support focal''.

Next I downloaded the .deb file (docky_2.2.1.1-1_all.deb), but opening it produces this error message in a red banner at the top of the installer:

Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libconf2.0-cil (>=2.24.0)
docky-1.jpg
...and the install button is grayed out.

Is there a way to reinstall Docky, perhaps by pulling the files from a Timeshift backup, or...?

Or, are these messages telling me that Docky is no longer compatible for some reason, and it's a lost cause?

I'd also be open to alternative docks but I don't see much out there.



System info below in case it helps...
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System: Kernel: 5.4.0-40-generic x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 9.3.0 Desktop: Cinnamon 4.6.6
wm: muffin dm: LightDM Distro: Linux Mint 20 Ulyana base: Ubuntu 20.04 focal
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UEFI: American Megatrends v: 1.20 date: 10/08/2015
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Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 54.0 C mobo: 29.8 C gpu: nvidia temp: 53 C
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Repos: No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/official-package-repositories.list
1: deb http: //packages.linuxmint.com ulyana main upstream import backport #id:linuxmint_main
2: deb http: //archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal main restricted universe multiverse
3: deb http: //archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal-updates main restricted universe multiverse
4: deb http: //archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal-backports main restricted universe multiverse
5: deb http: //security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ focal-security main restricted universe multiverse
6: deb http: //archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ focal partner
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/skype-stable.list
1: deb [arch=amd64] https: //repo.skype.com/deb stable main
Info: Processes: 278 Uptime: 1h 32m Memory: 15.59 GiB used: 7.23 GiB (46.4%) Init: systemd
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Re: Missing "Docky" after upgrade to 20.0

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Try sudo apt install libconf? I absolutely don't know what is Docky so don't expect me to answer that much of the time :D
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Re: Missing "Docky" after upgrade to 20.0

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DoodMann wrote:
Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:51 pm
Try sudo apt install libconf? I absolutely don't know what is Docky so don't expect me to answer that much of the time :D
Docky is an application bar/launcher, similar to Plank (another Linux dock app).

Could you explain why you think libconf might be the issue? I see libconf has something to do with writing configuration files, but the rest is a bit beyond me.
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Re: Missing "Docky" after upgrade to 20.0

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Moonraker wrote:
Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:18 pm
I tried re-adding the repository, but I can't add the PPA to the list; doing so produces this error:
https://askubuntu.com/questions/1237396 ... untu-20-04

I don't recommend that at all. It's been removed from the repos so it's possibly unmaintained. You might care to take a look at plank.
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Re: Missing "Docky" after upgrade to 20.0

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Thanks, I looked at Plank before; it works but I'd love to find a more full-featured dock. I've looked at a bunch of them but they're all either out of date or fatally buggy (Cairo Dock) or seem to be meant for a different desktop.

Latte Dock - says it requires the Plasma framework (?) Will this work on Mint 20/Cinanamon?
Plank - works, but few config options.
tint2 - says it's made for 'openbox3' - will this work on Mint 20/Cinanamon?
Docky - Alas, it appears to be no more with Mint 20.
Cairo Dock - beautiful but way to many bugs and crashes. No longer viable.
Avant Window Navigator - not in the Software Manager so I'm a little reluctant to experiment.
DockBarX - looks nice, haven't tried it yet. Does anyone have any experience with this, that is, will this work on Mint 20/Cinanamon?
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Re: Missing "Docky" after upgrade to 20.0

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Late reply,

I actually don't know the issue, but I just installed the missing dependencies for the app, I just make sure it's legit, or Stinkies happen :)
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Re: Missing "Docky" after upgrade to 20.0

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Hey, I'm back. Plank looks extremely good, try it out. I had problems with dockbarx, they're no longer supported by the devs.

EDIT: Here are the links that I've used to install Plank. https://www.unixmen.com/install-plank-o ... nd-fedora/

Then I go to panel settings then enable: Allow the pointer to pass through the edges of the panels, so that the OG panel doesn't show up when pointing the cursor where your OG panel was.
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Re: Missing "Docky" after upgrade to 20.0

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I tried DockBarX but it caused issues when moving windows around- very odd behaviour with them resizing all over the place into a thin band across the screen. Couldn't get it to stop so DockBarX is out.

Simdock centered itself precisely where my two monitors join, split across both screens and there doesn't seem to be a way to change that. confused.

I'm going to try KSmoothDock and tint2, and if neither of those work out I'll give up and stick with Plank.
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Re: Missing "Docky" after upgrade to 20.0

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Tell me the outcome, I think I'm going to focus on decorating my desktop.
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Re: Missing "Docky" after upgrade to 20.0

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I tried KSmoothDock....it's okay, but not very configurable. I can't really see anything wrong other than that, but that's enough for me not to use it.

Next up...tint2.
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Re: Missing "Docky" after upgrade to 20.0

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You know, this is a quirky one. I have installed Mint 20 Cinnamon on two machines. One was a fresh install and the other an upgrade from a fresh 19.3. The 19.3 had docky on it and after the upgrade, it is still here. The fresh 20 that was only 20 doesn't have it and like you said, can't right out of the box.

So after reading your post, what I did was take another machine, with 19.3 on it and docky since 19.3 came out and updated to 20. Docky is gone on that one now. So maybe, if you want to keep it a bit, do a 19.3 install, install docky, then update to 20! (not a great answer I know) Sometimes linux kills me. I love docky. Plank is okay, but docky just does it for me, enough that if it didn't work on this machine with 20, I would revert until I could figure out an easy way to get it.

So I have no real answer, just a strange anecdote.

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Re: Missing "Docky" after upgrade to 20.0

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Pretty hard though. :lol:
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Re: Missing "Docky" after upgrade to 20.0

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Tint2 is actually very nice, but it has some behaviors that I can't figure out how to eliminate- like when set to auto-hide, when it drops down it pushes the whole screen down instead of just appearing over the top of whatever's there.

Beyond that, however, it seems pretty functional. I'm probably going to stick with Plank until/unless I can figure out how to configure Tint2 to not push the screen down when it appears. (The setting for it doesn't seem to do anything.)
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Re: Missing "Docky" after upgrade to 20.0

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simonbael wrote:
Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:05 am
You know, this is a quirky one. I have installed Mint 20 Cinnamon on two machines. One was a fresh install and the other an upgrade from a fresh 19.3. The 19.3 had docky on it and after the upgrade, it is still here. The fresh 20 that was only 20 doesn't have it and like you said, can't right out of the box.
When I upgraded from 19.x to 20, Docky was still there. But I got to a step for removing/downgrading packages (here) and after that Docky was gone, including from the repos.
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Re: Missing "Docky" after upgrade to 20.0

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Moonraker wrote:
Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:10 am
simonbael wrote:
Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:05 am
You know, this is a quirky one. I have installed Mint 20 Cinnamon on two machines. One was a fresh install and the other an upgrade from a fresh 19.3. The 19.3 had docky on it and after the upgrade, it is still here. The fresh 20 that was only 20 doesn't have it and like you said, can't right out of the box.
When I upgraded from 19.x to 20, Docky was still there. But I got to a step for removing/downgrading packages (here) and after that Docky was gone, including from the repos.
Sad, it looks cool and this is the first time I saw these kind of software.
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Re: Missing "Docky" after upgrade to 20.0

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Maybe PPA will be fixed, but now we have to install these 5 dependences manually from .deb packages:
http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/u ... -4_all.deb
http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/u ... _amd64.deb
http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/u ... d1_all.deb
http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/u ... _amd64.deb
http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/m ... _amd64.deb

I don't remember the correct installation order of that, but packages will ask you for other ones.
Past that Docky is working for me now!
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Re: Missing "Docky" after upgrade to 20.0

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I think I'll just stick with Plank for now; it does most of what Docky did.

If I could tweak tint2 just a bit I'd keep it but I can't see where to change the "push down" behavior when it's in 'Auto Hide' mode. :(
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Re: Missing "Docky" after upgrade to 20.0

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I think the point of the post has been missed.
The question was not what Docky is (or even how good it is), but the fact that it is missing after the upgrade.
The important fact is that the PPA can not be used - the error message is:
Cannot add PPA: ''This PPA does not support focal''
I have a similar problem trying to add another PPA, exactly the same error. Anybody got a clue what it means and how to get around it?
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Re: Missing "Docky" after upgrade to 20.0

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Ksenofont wrote:
Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:13 am
I don't remember the correct installation order of that, but packages will ask you for other ones.
Thanks so much for this, Ksenofont! I was able to install these packages in the following order:

multiarch-support_2.27-3ubuntu1_amd64.deb
libgnome-keyring-common_3.12.0-1build1_all.deb
libgnome-keyring0_3.12.0-1build1_amd64.deb
libgnome-keyring1.0-cil_1.0.0-5_amd64.deb
libgconf2.0-cil_2.24.2-4_all.deb

Some of them required additional packages (20 in one case, 30 in another!), which I allowed to be installed. At that point I was able to install and run Docky (docky_2.2.1.1-1_all.deb) with no problem, and it is running just fine.
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Re: Missing "Docky" after upgrade to 20.0

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Vic-Gr wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:56 am
I think the point of the post has been missed.
The question was not what Docky is (or even how good it is), but the fact that it is missing after the upgrade.
The important fact is that the PPA can not be used - the error message is:
Cannot add PPA: ''This PPA does not support focal''
I have a similar problem trying to add another PPA, exactly the same error. Anybody got a clue what it means and how to get around it?
The PPA has not been updated to support focal (a.k.a. Ubuntu 20.04), which is the Ubuntu release on which Linux Mint 20 (a.k.a Ulyana) is based. To get around this, Docky and its dependencies have to be installed manually (dependencies first, of course :) ). Please have a look at Ksenofont's comment in this thread for links to the dependencies, and at my comment on his comment for guidelines on what order to install them in. After installing these dependencies, you can download Docky from https://pkgs.org/download/docky and install the .deb file.
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