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LM9: minor problem when running fsck at boot

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In LM9, when running fsck at boot, the checking process goes through quickly, but then the system doesn't go on to boot to the desktop in the normal way; this can only be brought about by hitting "C" on the keyboard - the same move that can be made to cancel the check. Any ideas on how to fix this, please?

From the Ubuntu forums, it seems that various glitches arose with fsck at the beta stage of Lucid, but they were supposedly fixed by the latest version of mountall (v.2.15, which is what I have on my system). Many thanks.

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Re: LM9: minor problem when running fsck at boot

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If you can re-produce this I suggest you report it as a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/linuxmint
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Re: LM9: minor problem when running fsck at boot

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I'm experiencing a similar problem. When it decides to do an fsck it basically stalls. I let it go for 28 minutes once just to see if it would finish and it did not. Hitting C results in "0%" complete then continues the booting. Happens every time is does an fsck.

There are two bug reports filed - one I think is closed because mountall 2.15 "fixed" it. And another that was started later that states it did not fix it.

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+sour ... mments=all
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+sour ... bug/580060

One of the workarounds stated in the first bug report is to remove "splash" and "quiet" options from the kernel boot line. I'd prefer a permanent fix myself.
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Re: LM9: minor problem when running fsck at boot

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Thanks for responding. It seems to be a matter of awaiting a further update to mountall. Fortunately for me, I only have the minor problem I mentioned at the outset; the check itself appears to go through smoothly.

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Re: LM9: minor problem when running fsck at boot

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Well, I can tell you what doesn't work: removing the "splash" and "quiet" boot options.

Looking at the boot.log it stopped at this line:
/dev/sdb5: 135967/3842048 files (0.4% non-contiguous), 1129088/15366164 blocks
I let it run for 20 minutes before pressing "c", which produced the following lines:
init: ureadahead-other main process (907) terminated with status 4
init: ureadahead-other main process (910) terminated with status 4
init: ureadahead-other main process (923) terminated with status 4
init: ureadahead-other main process (928) terminated with status 4
init: ureadahead-other main process (933) terminated with status 4
* Setting sensors limits [80G
[74G[ OK ]
And then it booted.

Now I have to google to see if "non-contiguous" is a bad thing.
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Re: LM9: minor problem when running fsck at boot

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remoulder wrote:If you can re-produce this I suggest you report it as a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/linuxmint
I can and I have: https://bugs.launchpad.net/linuxmint/+bug/583923

I have Mint9 installed on two different boxes with completely different hardware and can cause this problem to occur on both with a:

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sudo touch /forcefsck
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Re: LM9: minor problem when running fsck at boot

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Brian 49, It looks like my bug report was confirmed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/linuxmint/+bug/583923

And another bug report that is similar was submitted: https://bugs.launchpad.net/linuxmint/+bug/580030

So it looks like you and I aren't crazy after all :wink:
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Re: LM9: minor problem when running fsck at boot

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I've encountered the same problem: nobody's crazy. My quick work-around is to boot to my semi-installed Knoppix (using the fromhd cheatcode) first after a bad shutdown, Fsck.ext4 from runlevel 2 in Knoppix is faster in the long run.

I've had to do a couple of Alt-SysRec-b (Utterly Boring) when switching between users. This works as expected until one user logs out: then you get a blank screen and start raising the skinny elephants to no avail. The same bug seems to exist in Lucid and have something to do with the nVidia drivers (surprise!). I need compositing because I'm a heavy Google Earth user, so doing away with the nVidia stuff isn't an option. Getting rid of the split personality may be required.
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Re: LM9: minor problem when running fsck at boot

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I came to forum to post about this same issue, a couple days ago, first time this happened on my Dell Vostro Desktop, I ran a disk check using an alternate program and there were no errors then I decided to reinstall the entire system. Tonight, It's the same issue, pressing C to cancel does nothing.

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Re: LM9: minor problem when running fsck at boot

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Hi

I have not experienced this problem on any of my Mint 9 installs.

All my partitions are ext3 because I am not yet convinced of the reliability/stability of ext4.

My question to all you folks is - are your partitions ext4?

The default is ext4 so if you didn't specifically select something else then yours are ext4.

Hopefully we can narrow this down to whether or not it is just an ext4 problem.

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Re: LM9: minor problem when running fsck at boot

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My partition is ext4. It was also ext4 when I had LM8 installed, in which the problem wasn't present.

It's not clear to me at the moment whether there's one problem here or more than one; each person seems to be reporting different symptoms. To repeat, the only symptom here is that normal boot doesn't resume after fsck has finished running.

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Re: LM9: minor problem when running fsck at boot

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mick55 wrote:Hi

I have not experienced this problem on any of my Mint 9 installs.

All my partitions are ext3 because I am not yet convinced of the reliability/stability of ext4.

My question to all you folks is - are your partitions ext4?

The default is ext4 so if you didn't specifically select something else then yours are ext4.

Hopefully we can narrow this down to whether or not it is just an ext4 problem.

thanks
mick
One machine is ext3 ( my main box - for the same reason you don't use ext4 ).
One machine is ext4.
The same problem exists on both.

One machine has nvida, the other does not.
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Re: LM9: minor problem when running fsck at boot

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Which kernel are you guys using?

I was using 2.6.32-21-generic until today when I upgraded the kernel to 2.6.32-22-generic.

If you are not sure what kernel you are using, then run this command in a terminal to find out.

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uname -a
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Re: LM9: minor problem when running fsck at boot

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I'm now using kernel 2.6.34. At the time I first reported this issue, I was using 2.6.33-3.

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Re: LM9: minor problem when running fsck at boot

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System: Kernel 2.6.32-21-generic i686 (32 bit) Distro Linux Mint 9 Isadora

For my money I think the problem is somewhere in mountall and / or plymouth.
apt version mountall: 2.15
apt version plymouth: 0.8.2-2-1mint3

The Ubuntu version of this bug was resolved (?) by updating mountall to 2.15 which I already have. But their version of plymouth is different. Perhaps there is something in the Mint alteration of plymouth that's causing the problem ( at least for me - remember in my little universe it's affecting every box I put it on ).
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Re: LM9: minor problem when running fsck at boot

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IDE or SATA drives?

It might be worthwhile if we all post the output of "inxi -F" and compare them.

I will do so next time I am at one of my Mint 9 machines.

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Re: LM9: minor problem when running fsck at boot

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altair4 wrote:Well, I can tell you what doesn't work: removing the "splash" and "quiet" boot options.

Looking at the boot.log it stopped at this line:
/dev/sdb5: 135967/3842048 files (0.4% non-contiguous), 1129088/15366164 blocks
I let it run for 20 minutes before pressing "c", which produced the following lines:
init: ureadahead-other main process (907) terminated with status 4
init: ureadahead-other main process (910) terminated with status 4
init: ureadahead-other main process (923) terminated with status 4
init: ureadahead-other main process (928) terminated with status 4
init: ureadahead-other main process (933) terminated with status 4
* Setting sensors limits [80G
[74G[ OK ]
And then it booted.

Now I have to google to see if "non-contiguous" is a bad thing.
Just wanted to say that I have a similar problem...fsck always worked quickly in Mint 8, but now in 9, even after waiting half a hour, my laptop doesn't boot to the login screen and I have to cancel the check by pressing "c". I get similar messages to the one posted above, including the "non-contiguous" message.

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vincent@vincent-laptop ~ $ inxi -F
System:    Host vincent-laptop Kernel 2.6.33-02063303-generic x86_64 (64 bit) Distro Linux Mint 9 Isadora
CPU:       Dual core Intel Core2 Duo T6500 (SMP) cache 2048 KB flags (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 ssse3) bmips 8378.3 
           Clock Speeds: (1) 1200.00 MHz (2) 1200.00 MHz
Graphics:  Card nVidia G98M [GeForce G 105M] X.Org 1.7.6 Res: 1366x768@50.0hz 
           GLX Renderer GeForce G 105M/PCI/SSE2 GLX Version 3.2.0 NVIDIA 195.36.15 Direct Rendering Yes
Audio:     Card Intel 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller driver HDA Intel BusID: 00:1b.0
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Version 1.0.21
Network:   Card-1 Realtek RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller driver r8169 v: 2.3LK-NAPI at port 1000 BusID: 05:00.0
           Card-2 RaLink RT2860 driver rt2860 BusID: 02:00.0
Disks:     HDD Total Size: 320.1GB (3.9% used) 1: /dev/sda WDC_WD3200BEVT 320.1GB 
Partition: ID:/ size: 29G used: 6.7G (25%) fs: ext4 ID:/boot size: 251M used: 55M (23%) fs: ext4 
           ID:/home size: 68G used: 4.9G (8%) fs: ext4 ID:swap-1 size: 4.29GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 36.0C mobo: N/A gpu: 0.0:34C 
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A 
Info:      Processes 178 Uptime 9:01 Memory 915.6/3932.6MB Runlevel 2 Client Shell inxi 1.4.9 
Oh, and it's a SATA hard drive (a damn slow one too...only 5400 rpm).
Debian Testing x64/LM9 Main x64/Windows 7 x64 - LG R580 laptop w/ Intel Core 2 Duo T6500 2.1 GHz, 4 GB DDR2 RAM, Nvidia Geforce G 105M, Ralink rt2860 802.11n, 300 GB WD HD 5400 rpm

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Re: LM9: minor problem when running fsck at boot

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SATA here. Output of inxi -F:

System: Host brian49-desktop Kernel 2.6.34-020634-generic i686 (32 bit) Distro Linux Mint 9 Isadora
CPU: Dual core Intel Core2 6320 (SMP) cache 4096 KB flags (sse3 nx lm vmx) bmips 7447.88
Clock Speeds: (1) 1600.00 MHz (2) 1600.00 MHz
Graphics: Card ATI RV516 [Radeon X1300/X1550 Series] X.Org 1.7.6 Res: 1680x1050@59.9hz
GLX Renderer Mesa DRI R300 (RV515 7183) 20090101 x86/MMX/SSE2 TCL DRI2 GLX Version 1.5 Mesa 7.7.1 Direct Rendering Yes
Audio: Card Intel 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller driver oss_hdaudio
Network: Card Intel 82566DC Gigabit Network Connection driver e1000e v: 1.0.2-k2 at port ecc0
Disks: HDD Total Size: 500.1GB (0.5% used) 1: /dev/sda ST3250820AS 250.0GB
2: USB /dev/sdb Portable 250.1GB
Partition: ID:/ size: 224G used: 2.2G (2%) fs: ext4 ID:swap-1 size: 6.18GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap
Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 37.0C mobo: N/A
Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info: Processes 144 Uptime 26 min Memory 193.6/2011.2MB Client Shell inxi 1.3.2

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Re: LM9: minor problem when running fsck at boot

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IDE here. Output of inxi -F

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mick@mick-desktop ~ $ inxi -F
System:    Host mick-desktop Kernel 2.6.32-22-generic i686 (32 bit) Distro Linux Mint 9 Isadora
CPU:       Dual core Intel Core2 4400 (SMP) cache 2048 KB flags (sse3 nx lm) bmips 7991.12 
           Clock Speeds: (1) 1200.00 MHz (2) 1200.00 MHz
Graphics:  Card nVidia G86 [GeForce 8500 GT] X.Org 1.7.6 Res: 1280x1024@50.0hz 
           GLX Renderer GeForce 8500 GT/PCI/SSE2 GLX Version 3.2.0 NVIDIA 195.36.15 Direct Rendering Yes
Audio:     Card Intel N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller driver HDA Intel
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Version 1.0.21
Network:   Card Intel PRO/100 VE Network Connection driver e100 v: 3.5.24-k2-NAPI at port 1000 
Disks:     HDD Total Size: 1322.3GB (61.7% used) 1: /dev/sda ST3500630A 500.1GB 
           2: USB /dev/sdb 5000AAK External 500.1GB 3: USB /dev/sdc FreeAgentDesktop 320.1GB 
           4: USB /dev/sdd iPod 2.0GB 
Partition: ID:/ size: 30G used: 5.0G (18%) fs: ext3 ID:swap-1 size: 0.57GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap 
Info:      Processes 171 Uptime 14 min Memory 271.1/2011.2MB Client Shell inxi 1.3.2 
And, to reiterate, I do not have the problem.

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Re: LM9: minor problem when running fsck at boot

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It appears as though there are now 3 bug reports filed on this issue:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/linuxmint/+bug/583923 Confirmed
https://bugs.launchpad.net/linuxmint/+bug/580030 New
https://bugs.launchpad.net/linuxmint/+bug/588571 New

I'm becoming more uncomfortable with this as time goes on since I really don't know what it's doing. All I know is that after an fsck it produces errors which aren't really there. I'm contemplating turning off fsck on boot in Mint9 and booting into Mint7 ( I multiboot ) to do a manual fsck every 20 days or so from there.
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