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(S)Problems with Foxclone. What else is recommended?

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In the last two weeks of my LM19.1, recently, I tried to make a second ISO memory stick from Foxclone. I could not. The ones I made did not boot Foxclone. Instead, I successfully made a copy from another stick I had that was good, using USB Image Writer.

Since updating to LM21, I have not been able to make an ISO memory stick from Foxclone's website. I am storing my /home/alvin files on my second HDD, after having formatted it ext4. To backup my system files, I am using Timeshftt.

What software, free if possible, could I use to make a close of my current LM21 system? Comments on my Foxclone difficulty would be appreciated.
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Try downloading it from here as Andy said there was a problem with his .com a few days ago.

https://www.foxclone.org/
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Rescuezilla is an alternative to Foxclone. Some versions work better than others.
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gittiest...
I tried as you suggested, made the ISO stick. The md5sums matched. The clone was made successfully. Thanks!

It seems that if the foxclone dot com site does not reliably offer the download, that the site's master would fix it or direct elsewhere.

My clone does not take much space on a 500GB drive, maybe 50GB If I use gparted to reduce the clone's partition size and created a second partition, would I be able to use the rest of the HDD for other storage purposes?
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The developer is doing this out of the goodness of his big heart and it is probably costing him a substantial amount of money and definitely time to supply us with great free software. I don't think we are in any place to complain.

By your 'clone' - do you mean the clone of the drive you've just made or the drive you've just cloned?

Anyway, not knowing exactly the layout of your drive, for instance, whether you used the default installation (where you've got the efi partition (assuming it is GPT) and the / partition taking up the whole drive) or whether there is a non-default installation it is hard to say for sure.
In general, if you would like to shrink your system partition, you'd have to do it from a boot disk, for instance Foxclone, which has GParted on it.
It really is impossible to give useful advise without more info.
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Alvin wrote:
Tue Oct 04, 2022 4:36 pm
It seems that if the foxclone dot com site does not reliably offer the download, that the site's master would fix it or direct elsewhere.
I fear that the author of the site may be seriously ill or worse. Larry78723 did the site for me and I've not been able to contact him by email for well over three months. I'm more concerned about Larry than I am about the website.
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AndyMH wrote:
Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:23 pm
I fear that the author of the site may be seriously ill or worse. Larry78723 did the site for me and I've not been able to contact him by email for well over three months. I'm more concerned about Larry than I am about the website.
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AndyMH wrote:
Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:23 pm

I fear that the author of the site may be seriously ill or worse. Larry78723 did the site for me and I've not been able to contact him by email for well over three months. I'm more concerned about Larry than I am about the website.
If you can reveal the approximate location of Larry perhaps a nearby member of this forum would volunteer to investigate.
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AndyMH wrote:
Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:23 pm
I fear that the author of the site may be seriously ill or worse. Larry78723 did the site for me and I've not been able to contact him by email for well over three months. I'm more concerned about Larry than I am about the website.
That doesn't sound good for Larry, hope he's okay or if not on the road to recovery.
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To gittiest... and AndyMH: I agree that the Foxclone software is a fine gift to users and do, of course, appreciate it without being reminded. For that reason, especially, I found the ongoing problem with the site hard to understand

I think of software products being conceived by large teams of computer engineers rather than by one individual motivated by good will. I hope the author recovers, if he is ill.
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To gittiest...

Here is all the information about the installation method, for the purpose of determining whether the one large partition of my HDD clone, the clone made by Foxclone, may be shrunk without concert to a more reasonable size: I used the installation guide offered by LMF throughout, from making the ISO stick to putting it to use. Does that help you to judge if gparted would be safe to use to create an HDD clone that would not require 20 times the space it needs - the case at this time?
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AndyMH wrote:
Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:23 pm
Alvin wrote:
Tue Oct 04, 2022 4:36 pm
It seems that if the foxclone dot com site does not reliably offer the download, that the site's master would fix it or direct elsewhere.
I fear that the author of the site may be seriously ill or worse. Larry78723 did the site for me and I've not been able to contact him by email for well over three months. I'm more concerned about Larry than I am about the website.
I have been following along with this, and concur.....
wish Larry78723 the best of health....

stay with Andy's .org site to download his files...
Foxclone "is the best" in my opinion.
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Hi Andy. Hope Larry is ok. If you can't contact him it is out of your hands. We wish him the best though and hope he returns.

Alvin - Foxclone will determine the unused portion of the drive and won't make a 500GB image if you are only using 50GB. Likely to be about 40GB depending on what you've got on there.
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Back when I first floated the idea of foxclone (three years ago?), Larry was one of the individuals on the forum who volunteered to help. He did the website, paid for the hosting and domain name. He also helped me out getting the iso to boot UEFI in the early days. He lives in North Carolina, his surname is on the about page in foxclone. He is in his late '70s. I did have an email address for him, but he is not responding to it.

A clone makes an identical copy of the source drive. That is why you should never boot your system with the source and clone present. It will confuse BIOS, which one to boot? A backup creates image files (one for each partition) of your source drive. Foxclone does not care how the destination is formatted, e.g. ntfs or ext4. Image files are compressed and foxclone only copies used blocks in the source partition. Compression can achieve up to a 50% reduction in the image file size compared to used blocks on the source.
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AndyMH wrote:
Wed Oct 05, 2022 3:50 am
Back when I first floated the idea of foxclone (three years ago?), Larry was one of the individuals on the forum who volunteered to help. He did the website, paid for the hosting and domain name. He also helped me out getting the iso to boot UEFI in the early days. He lives in North Carolina, his surname is on the about page in foxclone. He is in his late '70s. I did have an email address for him, but he is not responding to it.
First, with all due respect for Larry and hoping he will be able to come back from any health issues.

I offer to volunteer with my VPS hosting space for the website if needed and an upgrade to the design. I understand you may not have access to the domain tho. There may be another option.
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