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No Maya startup sound

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 9:03 am
by animaguy
i only say 64-bit a matter of reference. The differences have more ti do with processing. Actually 32-bit may have some limitations I found it to be more compact and stable and faster.

So the solution may very well be the same.

Re: No Maya startup sound

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 4:01 am
by kyphi
I installed LinuxMint 13 MATE. Startup sounds worked immediately. I did have to adjust the volume levels to hear it fully.
In conclusion, it seems like a problem with the hardware you are using. I am unable to help you further and I put the problem down to user and/or equipment error.
Forget about pointing the finger at the developers - the finger points to you and/or your equipment.
Many complaints may have been lodged but these are outnumbered by far by the number of users that do not experience this fault.
Over and out.

Re: No Maya startup sound

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 4:12 am
by riki
@kyphi

Just to say thanks you for your assistance. What still puzzles me, assuming that the error is at my end, is that both my machines (desktop and laptop) have no startup sound. I'll experiment and install LM13 on a third machine (an oldie) and see what happens.

Re: No Maya startup sound

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 7:18 am
by riki
Right, I think I've got something going. I have burnt another ISO and found the linuxmint-login.wav and linuxmint-logout.wav files which are now sitting on my desktop. However, it won't allow me to transfer them to the file system in Sounds, operation denied, even as administrator and having checked access in Properties. The sound is there alright on both files by just placing the cursor on them. I have added the files to Startup Applications in the Menu but obviously the path doesn't work. Any suggestions to move forward? Hope I'm almost there!
One other point, the first ISO from Ireland HEAnet had the files missing but the one burnt this morning is from University of KENT UK which has them in the file system.

Re: No Maya startup sound

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:56 am
by tdockery97
kyphi wrote:
The command that I use points to a sound file in /usr/share/sounds. Check that you have a suitable sound file in that location. The command is

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play /usr/share/sounds/linuxmint-login.wav
Thanks, kyphi. Added the entry "Login Sound" to startup applications using this command and it works great in my Mint 13 MATE installation.

Re: No Maya startup sound

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 11:50 am
by riki
More confusion! http://www.faqforge.com/ I read that sound files should be in .ogg format!

Re: No Maya startup sound

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 6:33 pm
by kyphi
No, it does not say that the file should be in ogg format.

If you look in /usr/share/sounds/LinuxMint/stereo you will find a file called "desktop-login.ogg"
You can use this file with the following path:

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play /usr/share/sounds/LinuxMint/stereo/desktop-login.ogg
or
you can use the wav file in /usr/share/sounds called "linuxmint-login.wav" with the following path:

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play /usr/share/sounds/linuxmint-login.wav
It was a faulty download then, riki. To transfer the files from your desktop, if you prefer to use the GUI, use

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gksudo nautilus
which will open the file manager as root.

Re: No Maya startup sound

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 2:51 am
by riki
kyphi wrote:No, it does not say that the file should be in ogg format.

If you look in /usr/share/sounds/LinuxMint/stereo you will find a file called "desktop-login.ogg"
You can use this file with the following path:

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play /usr/share/sounds/LinuxMint/stereo/desktop-login.ogg
Rejected in Terminal, no such file
or
you can use the wav file in /usr/share/sounds called "linuxmint-login.wav" with the following path:

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play /usr/share/sounds/linuxmint-login.wav
First I have to transfer the files to Sounds, see below

It was a faulty download then, riki. To transfer the files from your desktop, if you prefer to use the GUI, use

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gksudo nautilus
which will open the file manager as root.
As root how do you transfer the wav files to Sounds? Sorry but I need step by step guidance :oops:

Re: No Maya startup sound

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 7:55 am
by riki
I have tried, in root, by dragging, cut and paste, copy and paste, all to no avail, permission denied. How on earth can you transfer the wav files currently sitting on the desktop to the File system in Sounds?

Re: No Maya startup sound

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 4:47 pm
by kyphi
It seems like you are still using your incomplete iso installation, the one with the sound files missing. Rather than trying to install the necessary sound files from another source, would it not be better to install the iso that has the sound files on it? You never know what else is missing from your system.

What is the complete name of the file you want to transfer from your desktop?

You could use the "mv" (move) or "cp" (copy) command like this:

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sudo mv ~/Desktop/name-of-file /usr/share/sounds

Re: No Maya startup sound

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 3:10 am
by riki
kyphi wrote:It seems like you are still using your incomplete iso installation, the one with the sound files missing. Rather than trying to install the necessary sound files from another source, would it not be better to install the iso that has the sound files on it? You never know what else is missing from your system.

What is the complete name of the file you want to transfer from your desktop?

You could use the "mv" (move) or "cp" (copy) command like this:

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sudo mv ~/Desktop/name-of-file /usr/share/sounds
First of all, many thanks for your patience kyphi; I am not very good with CLI and always try to stay away from it if at all possible. As for another ISO, I'd rather be without login/logout sounds than having to reinstall and reconfigure everything which takes more hours of work. I have followed your instructions above and both linuxmint-login.wav and linuxmint-logout.wav files have now been transferred to /usr/share/sounds. I have added login and logout in Startup Applications and login in Menu>Login Window>Accessibility and...STILL NO SOUND!!! Is there something else I am missing? Another command?

Re: No Maya startup sound

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 4:33 am
by kyphi
Now I feel stuck. All I can recommend is that you re-install LinuxMint 13 MATE from a reputable source (like directly from the horse's mouth). The MATE ISO from http://www.linuxmint.com/edition.php?id=103 is the download that you should have used in the first place.

Save your home directory to an external medium such as a USB stick or a section on another hard drive so that you will be able to restore any of your precious files and re-install the new ISO.

There are other ways to recovery but since you are not comfortable with the command line (and you should learn to be), a re-install, in my opinion, is the best option. I regret that I cannot guide you further at this time.

Please rest assured that you are NOT abandoned.

Re: No Maya startup sound

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 4:52 am
by riki
OK kyphi. Thanks again for your help. I'll reinstall on the laptop which hasn't got much stuff saved and see what happens. I'll be back!

Re: No Maya startup sound

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 6:59 am
by riki
One thing I have just done before a reinstall: upgraded from Mate 1.2 to version 1.4 but that hasn't brought back the login/logout sounds.

Re: No Maya startup sound

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:30 am
by riki
riki wrote:OK kyphi. Thanks again for your help. I'll reinstall on the laptop which hasn't got much stuff saved and see what happens. I'll be back!
Frustratingly, I have to report that it hasn't made any difference. Reinstalled with fresh ISO + upgraded MATE to version 1.4 but login/logout sounds still not working. All other sounds perfect as before. The reinstall is now on both the deskptop and laptop. So unless there are any more ideas I am calling it a day. You can't win them all, even with Linux!!!

Re: No Maya startup sound

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 5:31 pm
by kyphi
No fresh ideas but you could try those that have been suggested before. First check to see that the necessary sound files are where they are supposed to be.
Open a terminal and type

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play /usr/share/sounds/linuxmint-login.wav
. If that works then create a "Login Sound" entry in your Startup Programs.
Logout sound has not worked for many years - I suspect that it has been sacrificed for faster shutdown.

Re: No Maya startup sound

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 3:45 am
by riki
kyphi wrote:No fresh ideas but you could try those that have been suggested before. First check to see that the necessary sound files are where they are supposed to be.
Open a terminal and type

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play /usr/share/sounds/linuxmint-login.wav
. If that works then create a "Login Sound" entry in your Startup Programs.
Logout sound has not worked for many years - I suspect that it has been sacrificed for faster shutdown.
The sound works with your command and the login sound entry is in Startup Applications, however, when I restart there is no sound.

Re: No Maya startup sound

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:51 am
by riki
And another thing I don't quite grasp. If the "logout" sound hasn't worked for years, why is the wav file in Sounds? It all adds to confusion.

Re: No Maya startup sound

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:57 am
by riki
And according to this geek it's all about the ogg files, not wavs! http://linuxg.net/the-quick-solution-fo ... x-mint-13/ More confusion!!! Can anyone explain why some refer to ogg and others to wav?

Re: No Maya startup sound

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 11:25 pm
by Mik3e
For your information, I had a login sound with my original '13' install, but it disappeared for some reason. Here's what worked for me to get it back:

1. In a terminal I ran 'play /usr/share/sounds/linuxmint-login.wav' and got the appropriate sound.
2. I checked Startup Applications and there was no entry for 'startup sound', so I created one with the above command.
3. I rebooted and got the startup sound.

It was that simple, but I haven't had it working long enough to have confidence it won't disappear again. One theory I'll check out if it does disappear again is that un-checking 'startup sound' has the effect of removing it rather than only disabling it.